Makankōsappō

[Dragon Sequoia]

I understand that the Kienzan is capable of cutting through a target regardless of the opponent possessing a stronger power level, but is the same thing applied to the Makankōsappō? I remember when Cell had that moment of desperation which caused him to spam random techniques on Gohan, that Gohan had actually swatted the blast away like it was nothing. [I'm not exactly sure if that was just anime fluff or not.]

Is it possible to tank or deflect the Makankōsappō?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Any instance of blocking a Kienzan or Makankosappo are anime filler.

I'm not sure if it's been stated as a fact that the technique can pierce anything, but I'd like to think it can...as long as it hits its target. I highly doubt either can actually be tanked (Toei BS asside), but I'd assume both the Kienzan and the Makankosappo could be deflected if you are smart about it. Hit the Makankosappo from the side before it pierces, or strike the Kienzan on the flat side before impact.

[The Monkey King]

I think that if BoZ Piccolo used the Makankōsappō on Nappa this would happen:

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[Polyphase Avatron]

Any instance of blocking a Kienzan or Makankosappo are anime filler.

I'm not sure if it's been stated as a fact that the technique can pierce anything, but I'd like to think it can...as long as it hits its target. I highly doubt either can actually be tanked (Toei BS asside), but I'd assume both the Kienzan and the Makankosappo could be deflected if you are smart about it. Hit the Makankosappo from the side before it pierces, or strike the Kienzan on the flat side before impact.

I don't think there's any such thing as a technique that is completely "unblockable" except weird ones like Devilmite beam or Buu's henka beam (but the latter and probably the former can still be deflected).

[DarkPrince_92]

I feel like if the defender has enough Ki to fend off the attack, then it shouldn't be a weird feat to block an "unblockable" attack.

[Pantalones]

Yeah, I don't think either the Kienzan or Makankosappo are "unblockable" or will magically cut/pierce through absolutely anything.

I do think that both of these techniques would be very difficult to just take head-on without actually being seriously damaged (like Goku did with Freeza's beam in the manga scan posted above), even if you're much stronger than the user of the technique, considering that trying to just sit there and "tank" Krillin's Kienzan would've been a death sentence for Nappa (even being barely grazed by the thing's edge managed to cut him, so we know it would've sliced him easily if it hit full-force) despite the power difference between the two of them, and Vegeta knew it. Freeza's Kienzan-like move seemed pretty similar--Goku definitely did not want to let one of those hit him, even though he was beating Freeza without much trouble before that point (and, as mentioned before, could even take lesser attacks right in the face without getting anything more than a bloody lip out of it.)

It should be possible to knock either of these attacks aside if you hit them from the right angle. I can imagine someone "catching" a Kienzan and either tossing it aside or just throwing it right back at whoever used it, if they were quick enough. If you're ridiculously, overwhelmingly more powerful than your opponent it might even be possible to just take them head-on without getting more than a surface-level wound. It would just take a MUCH bigger power gap to do that than it would to "tank" a regular, non-cutting ki attack. I'm sure Perfect Cell probably could just take a Kienzan from Krillin like he's shown doing in the anime filler (maybe it should've given him a very light cut that regenerated instantly, instead of just bouncing off or "breaking" on impact--I can't remember exactly how they showed it, only that it hit Cell but did nothing--but still, close enough), though I'm not sure if the gap between him and Piccolo is quite big enough for him to do the same with a Makankosappo. Not that it would matter much anyway since he could just regenerate afterward. Buu could probably do the same thing for both attacks if he really wanted to, but since he's Buu he'd just let them both cut through him anyway and instantly regenerate it like he does with everything else (...even freaking bullets, which pretty much proves that he's just letting stuff cut/pierce him because he just doesn't care thanks to regeneration.)

[Tyro]

Could Saiyan arc Kuririn's Kienzan cut through Katchin Steel?

[Kamiccolo9]

Could Saiyan arc Kuririn's Kienzan cut through Katchin Steel?

I don't think that we have any real durability feats for Katchin. I mean, it's harder than the ground of Kaioshin's planet, and harder than the Z-Sword, but that's really all we know. In the Buu's Fury game for GBA, Goku's Kamehameha couldn't break it, but I think that's the only other feat we have.

[Strife1]

I don't see why the Makankōsappō can't be an attack that you can just tank. It's a drill. Now if someone were to you a Kiai. then i'm sure it could be deflected, but unsuspecting opponents would probably be sliced in half with it. Those moves just wouldn't work later in the series because of opponents who can regenerate, and because of opponents who were to fast for the moves to hit them. If the fate of the world is up to Piccolo's signature and Kuririn's signature and the Saiyans are defeated..the world is probably fucked. As far as it cutting Katchin...we don't know.

[KentalSSJ6]

Any instance of blocking a Kienzan or Makankosappo are anime filler.

I'm not sure if it's been stated as a fact that the technique can pierce anything, but I'd like to think it can...as long as it hits its target. I highly doubt either can actually be tanked (Toei BS asside), but I'd assume both the Kienzan and the Makankosappo could be deflected if you are smart about it. Hit the Makankosappo from the side before it pierces, or strike the Kienzan on the flat side before impact.

Yeah id take the Makankosappo over the Kienzan. Your kinda screwed if the Kienzan is coming at you in a horizontal angle, unless of course your able to jump or duck it otherwise depending on how you hit it, your head or legs are coming off.