Dragon Ball Z Kai blu ray black bars

[JEFFMAN219]

Hey how come my dbz kai season 3 blu ray has black bars on each side of the screen?


While my dbz kai season 1 dvd is in full screen?

[PhoenixEX]

I'm done.

[JEFFMAN219]

I'm done.

?????

[PhoenixEX]

Sorry I thought this was a troll post for a moment, but if you're serious then it's because that's the way that it was made, in 4:3. The DVD version is also 4:3 natively but I guess your TV just stretches out the image to fit the screen? Although I believe the Japanese DVD versions of Kai were cropped in 16:9...can anyone confirm?

[JEFFMAN219]

Sorry I thought this was a troll post for a moment, but if you're serious then it's because that's the way that it was made, in 4:3. The DVD version is also 4:3 natively but I guess your TV just stretches out the image to fit the screen? Although I believe the Japanese DVD versions of Kai were cropped in 16:9...can anyone confirm?

Lool why would you think that this is a troll post

[TheAldella]

Sorry I thought this was a troll post for a moment, but if you're serious then it's because that's the way that it was made, in 4:3. The DVD version is also 4:3 natively but I guess your TV just stretches out the image to fit the screen? Although I believe the Japanese DVD versions of Kai were cropped in 16:9...can anyone confirm?

Lool why would you think that this is a troll post

It's a big joke around here because of the 16:9 sets that are out, don't worry about it. Anyway, in the long run, the BluRays are forced into 4:3 by using hard-coded black bars instead of just being 4:3 native. The image is still 16:9, so your television doesn't notice.

[Black_Anime_Fan]

Anyway, in the long run, the BluRays are forced into 4:3 by using hard-coded black bars instead of just being 4:3 native. The image is still 16:9, so your television doesn't notice.

Um....what?
EDIT: Sorry, misread that sentence. Nevermind

[JEFFMAN219]

Sorry I thought this was a troll post for a moment, but if you're serious then it's because that's the way that it was made, in 4:3. The DVD version is also 4:3 natively but I guess your TV just stretches out the image to fit the screen? Although I believe the Japanese DVD versions of Kai were cropped in 16:9...can anyone confirm?

Lool why would you think that this is a troll post

It's a big joke around here because of the 16:9 sets that are out, don't worry about it. Anyway, in the long run, the BluRays are forced into 4:3 by using hard-coded black bars instead of just being 4:3 native. The image is still 16:9, so your television doesn't notice.

Oh I see but its weird that my dbz kai season DVD is in full screen.

[TheAldella]

Anyway, in the long run, the BluRays are forced into 4:3 by using hard-coded black bars instead of just being 4:3 native. The image is still 16:9, so your television doesn't notice.

Um....what?

Here, lemme retry that. FUNimation put black bars on a 16:9 image to make it look 4:3. It's not actually 4:3, and with his TV being 16:9 and the sets bein 16:9, but looking 4:3 because of the bars hard-coded into the image make it not expand.

The DVD sets don't have the bars as a part of the actual image.

[Gaffer Tape]

Oops, double post...

[Gaffer Tape]

As PhoenixEX says, you probably have your TV set up improperly so that it alters 4:3 video content to fit a 16:9 window. That's why your 4:3 DVD fills your TV. Your Blu-ray is natively 16:9. The black bars are included in that image, so the TV doesn't alter it. So the point is, it's your DVD playback that has the problem, not the Blu-ray playback.

[Black_Anime_Fan]

Anyway, in the long run, the BluRays are forced into 4:3 by using hard-coded black bars instead of just being 4:3 native. The image is still 16:9, so your television doesn't notice.

Um....what?

Here, lemme retry that. FUNimation put black bars on a 16:9 image to make it look 4:3. It's not actually 4:3, and with his TV being 16:9 and the sets bein 16:9, but looking 4:3 because of the bars hard-coded into the image make it not expand.

The DVD sets don't have the bars as a part of the actual image.

But wait a minute, I thought Kai was made in 4:3 since that's how the original was, but was cropped to 16:9 in Japan for broadcast purposes (despite the Japanese DVDs using that AR). Wouldn't that make sense as both the American and Japanese Blu-Rays use 4:3? Or was I fooled...

[PhoenixEX]

The DBZ Kai footage is in 4:3, but they hard coded the black bars on the sides to make it readable as 16:9. It's kind of difficult to explain using simple terms.

[JEFFMAN219]

As PhoenixEX says, you probably have your TV set up improperly so that it alters 4:3 video content to fit a 16:9 window. That's why your 4:3 DVD fills your TV. Your Blu-ray is natively 16:9. The black bars are included in that image, so the TV doesn't alter it. So the point is, it's your DVD playback that has the problem, not the Blu-ray playback.

Could it be a setting in my PS3 that's doing this and can it be fixed?

[Dalesy]

But wait a minute, I thought Kai was made in 4:3 since that's how the original was, but was cropped to 16:9 in Japan for broadcast purposes (despite the Japanese DVDs using that AR). Wouldn't that make sense as both the American and Japanese Blu-Rays use 4:3? Or was I fooled...

Basically, the Blu-Rays are in 16:9, but the black bars that you see on the side are part of that 16:9 image, in order to preserve the 4:3 aspect ratio while still meeting the Blu-Ray standard of 16:9. The TV recognizes this as a 16:9 image. What the OP is experiencing is that his DVDs are in 16:9. This is likely due to his TV being set to stretch/crop the image to fit the whole 16:9 panel, because the footage is 4:3 without hardcoded black bars on DVD. So basically, the Blu-Rays have circumvented his TV's stretch setting by making the black bars that come with watching 4:3 footage on a 16:9 screen a part of the footage, which the TV doesn't recognize as blank space that needs to be hidden.

This is a pretty confusing thing to explain in writing, but I hope that helped.

[JEFFMAN219]

But wait a minute, I thought Kai was made in 4:3 since that's how the original was, but was cropped to 16:9 in Japan for broadcast purposes (despite the Japanese DVDs using that AR). Wouldn't that make sense as both the American and Japanese Blu-Rays use 4:3? Or was I fooled...

Basically, the Blu-Rays are in 16:9, but the black bars that you see on the side are part of that 16:9 image, in order to preserve the 4:3 aspect ratio while still meeting the Blu-Ray standard of 16:9. The TV recognizes this as a 16:9 image. What the OP is experiencing is that his DVDs are in 16:9. This is likely due to his TV being set to stretch/crop the image to fit the whole 16:9 panel, because the footage is 4:3 without hardcoded black bars on DVD. So basically, the Blu-Rays have circumvented his TV's stretch setting by making the black bars that come with watching 4:3 footage on a 16:9 screen a part of the footage, which the TV doesn't recognize as blank space that needs to be hidden.

This is a pretty confusing thing to explain in writing, but I hope that helped.

My dbz kai season 1 DVD is in 4:3

[MarcFBR]

Let's make this a bit shorter and more clear.

Most TVs when set to zoom in only do so to 4:3 content.

The Blu-ray spec does not allow 4:3 content in HD. So if you have a 4:3 master, you encode in the black bars (making a widescreen picture with the 4:3 content in the middle, and the bars on the sides.) This causes the TV to not recognize it as 4:3 content, and thereby ignores your zoom setting.

[JEFFMAN219]

Let's make this a bit shorter and more clear.

Most TVs when set to zoom in only do so to 4:3 content.

The Blu-ray spec does not allow 4:3 content in HD. So if you have a 4:3 master, you encode in the black bars (making a widescreen picture with the 4:3 content in the middle, and the bars on the sides.) This causes the TV to not recognize it as 4:3 content, and thereby ignores your zoom setting.

Oh I see thanks for explaining that to me. Damn I knew there was a reason why the blu ray of this set was cheaper then the DVD version

[bkev]

No offense to you in particular but it seriously baffles me that that is what the majority of consumers seem to want.

[Gaffer Tape]

Oh I see thanks for explaining that to me. Damn I knew there was a reason why the blu ray of this set was cheaper then the DVD version

Now I'm confused. What does that have to do with anything? What perceived disadvantage are you implying the Blu-Ray version has?