What did Goku do during the 5 years between DB and DBZ?

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What did Goku do during the 5 years between DB and DBZ?

Post by Analytical Delusion » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:48 am

We have some idea of how Piccolo trained, since I believe the anime guide notes Toriyama devised the split-form trainingn technique. Meditation probably was certainly part of his regime, as well.

What about Goku, though? Do any of the guidebooks or other materials suggest any training that he did in particular?He probably stayed home a bit, what with marriage and Gohan being born. One of the GB games (Goku Hishouden) had him getting into an argument with Chi Chi and going to train with God at some point during the break, so that's one possibility I suppose (though he had surpassed Popo and God, the thinner air certainly could help; maybe this is where the month in the ROSAT occurred?).

Anyhow, enough speculation on my part. Is there anything hinted, anywhere?

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:56 am

The month in the RoSaT was stated to be back while he was a child. I take that to mean this was back during his training with Mister Popo, before his growth spurt. If it was after the match with Piccolo at the 23rd Budokai, you'd think Goku would have gotten stronger than he did during the gap, even if it was just a month.

Anyway, besides that, I don't think Goku did much of anything. Goku says he hasn't done any real training since the 23rd Budokai and Piccolo says that it seems like he was slacking while the ex-Daimao was developing his new technique. So I honestly doubt Goku did anything important. Probably just basic training to stay in form and prevent himself from getting rusty.
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Post by Analytical Delusion » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:23 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:The month in the RoSaT was stated to be back while he was a child. I take that to mean this was back during his training with Mister Popo, before his growth spurt. If it was after the match with Piccolo at the 23rd Budokai, you'd think Goku would have gotten stronger than he did during the gap, even if it was just a month.

Anyway, besides that, I don't think Goku did much of anything. Goku says he hasn't done any real training since the 23rd Budokai and Piccolo says that it seems like he was slacking while the ex-Daimao was developing his new technique. So I honestly doubt Goku did anything important. Probably just basic training to stay in form and prevent himself from getting rusty.
Thanks for the quick response.

Hm, Viz has the following exchange:

Piccolo: "Son Goku...have you no...secret new technique...?"
Goku: "Heh...for once Piccolo...I'm fresh out."
Piccolo: "You always were...a lazy one...we should both be thankful...that I am not..."

Can't find anything about his not having done any real training. Was there a different conversation somewhere else, or is it different in the original tankobon? I'll skim through it just to be sure.

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Post by Strife1 » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:25 am

Trained, sexed Chichi, raised Gohan, Ate food, went fishing, searched for Dragonballs, and definitely didn't visit his friends. I also think that Goku just harnessed his skills and his techniques instead of trying to create new ones.

Oh and how the hell did Goku survive in the RoSaT for a month if he couldn't even walk when he first got to Kaio's?

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:53 am

Analytical Delusion wrote:Can't find anything about his not having done any real training. Was there a different conversation somewhere else, or is it different in the original tankobon? I'll skim through it just to be sure.
I don't know what the original says, but that's still kinda how I interpret that line. When you look at everything together, including guidebook battle powers, both Piccolo and Goku seem to have stagnated after their battle. In Piccolo's case, he changed from gaining power to developing the Makankosappo, and Goku seems to have just maintained his power while adjusting to married life and having a kid. If either of them had done any real training, based on multiple examples both before and after this point in the story, they should have made pretty decent jumps in terms of power, but neither of them seemed to have done that...
Strife1 wrote:Oh and how the hell did Goku survive in the RoSaT for a month if he couldn't even walk when he first got to Kaio's?
Maybe he decided to stay in the building after venturing venturing off into the void-esque room once or twice? Maybe his body just never adjusted or it readjusted and forgot how to deal with it after maybe a decade between gravity trips?
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Post by Analytical Delusion » Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:09 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Analytical Delusion wrote:Can't find anything about his not having done any real training. Was there a different conversation somewhere else, or is it different in the original tankobon? I'll skim through it just to be sure.
I don't know what the original says, but that's still kinda how I interpret that line. When you look at everything together, including guidebook battle powers, both Piccolo and Goku seem to have stagnated after their battle. In Piccolo's case, he changed from gaining power to developing the Makankosappo, and Goku seems to have just maintained his power while adjusting to married life and having a kid. If either of them had done any real training, based on multiple examples both before and after this point in the story, they should have made pretty decent jumps in terms of power, but neither of them seemed to have done that...
I suppose. The only other thing I can find is from when they take their weighted clothes off:

Goku: "Piccolo...you were armored too?"
Piccolo: "As are you, boy...and I have not felt so light in a long while."
Goku: "Well, well...looks like we've both been training hard!"

I'm not a huge PLs guy, but I do like the V-Jump number (910, I believe?). I'm also of the opinion that chi attacks don't amplify battle powers (like a multiplier), but rather bring out everything (I think the kamehameha is described this way, somewhere), so "up to 924!!! And increasing...!!" (Raditz) and "power levels of barely over a thousand..." (Vegeta) do suggest that your interpretation is correct, as Piccolo jumping from somewhere <910 to 1330 (and developing a new killer technique, literally) is much more than going from 910 (possibly higher, if there was a zenkai after the 23rd TB) to less than 1307 (Raditz: "[t]he brat has more power than you!") with no new moves for the fight.
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Post by TenshiGokuu » Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:10 am

Analytical Delusion wrote:We have some idea of how Piccolo trained, since I believe the anime guide notes Toriyama devised the split-form trainingn technique. Meditation probably was certainly part of his regime, as well.

What about Goku, though? Do any of the guidebooks or other materials suggest any training that he did in particular?He probably stayed home a bit, what with marriage and Gohan being born. One of the GB games (Goku Hishouden) had him getting into an argument with Chi Chi and going to train with God at some point during the break, so that's one possibility I suppose (though he had surpassed Popo and God, the thinner air certainly could help; maybe this is where the month in the ROSAT occurred?).

Anyhow, enough speculation on my part. Is there anything hinted, anywhere?
he stayed with his wife chi chi and raised his son gohan
his typical day was
8:00am wakes up
8:15am brushes his teeth and takes shower
8:30am has breakfast with chi chi special cooked meals, 10 servings of egg omelet and pancakes with strawberry jam and whip cream dessert
9:00am -11:00am helps around the house cleans, plows the field gardens outside they have potatoes,tomatoes,vegetables all stuff need taken care of,also he waters the flowers
11:30am takes gohan and chi chi for a walk, they stay at park, have picnic, and go back home
1:00pm-2:30pm goku hunts for food, brings dinosour tails, wolfs, fish, different fruits
2:45pm-7:00pm GOKU TRAINS, TRAINS AND MORE TRAINS, does 1000s oh hand stand push ups, sit ups, crunches, concentrates at ki, runs around the mountains
7:30pm gets back home
8:00pm has dinner with his family typical dinner dinasour tail, fish, vegetables,sausage,cooked eggs, bacon
8:30pm takes a bath
9:30pm helps chi chi put gohan to sleep, might sing him a lullaby
10:00pm goku and chi chi both fall asleep

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Re: What did Goku do during the 5 years between DB and DBZ?

Post by Hugo Boss » Sun Jan 12, 2014 10:13 am

Analytical Delusion wrote:I suppose. The only other thing I can find is from when they take their weighted clothes off:

Goku: "Piccolo...you were armored too?"
Piccolo: "As are you, boy...and I have not felt so light in a long while."
Goku: "Well, well...looks like we've both been training hard!"
Yes, probably they did the same kind of training (living most of their time with weighted clothes), but Piccolo went a step further by developing Makkankosappo.
Analytical Delusion wrote:I'm not a huge PLs guy, but I do like the V-Jump number (910, I believe?). I'm also of the opinion that chi attacks don't amplify battle powers (like a multiplier), but rather bring out everything (I think the kamehameha is described this way, somewhere), so "up to 924!!! And increasing...!!" (Raditz) and "power levels of barely over a thousand..." (Vegeta) do suggest that your interpretation is correct, as Piccolo jumping from somewhere <910 to 1330 (and developing a new killer technique, literally) is much more than going from 910 (possibly higher, if there was a zenkai after the 23rd TB) to less than 1307 (Raditz: "[t]he brat has more power than you!") with no new moves for the fight.
I believe 910 is referring to his Super Kamehameha, the one he used against Piccolo. I'm not sure if he could exert a greater powerlevel if he had used the same technique against Raditz. To me, that looked like a normal kamehameha.

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Post by Linnom » Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:26 pm

TenshiGokuu wrote:
Analytical Delusion wrote:We have some idea of how Piccolo trained, since I believe the anime guide notes Toriyama devised the split-form trainingn technique. Meditation probably was certainly part of his regime, as well.

What about Goku, though? Do any of the guidebooks or other materials suggest any training that he did in particular?He probably stayed home a bit, what with marriage and Gohan being born. One of the GB games (Goku Hishouden) had him getting into an argument with Chi Chi and going to train with God at some point during the break, so that's one possibility I suppose (though he had surpassed Popo and God, the thinner air certainly could help; maybe this is where the month in the ROSAT occurred?).

Anyhow, enough speculation on my part. Is there anything hinted, anywhere?
he stayed with his wife chi chi and raised his son gohan
his typical day was
8:00am wakes up
8:15am brushes his teeth and takes shower
8:30am has breakfast with chi chi special cooked meals, 10 servings of egg omelet and pancakes with strawberry jam and whip cream dessert
9:00am -11:00am helps around the house cleans, plows the field gardens outside they have potatoes,tomatoes,vegetables all stuff need taken care of,also he waters the flowers
11:30am takes gohan and chi chi for a walk, they stay at park, have picnic, and go back home
1:00pm-2:30pm goku hunts for food, brings dinosour tails, wolfs, fish, different fruits
2:45pm-7:00pm GOKU TRAINS, TRAINS AND MORE TRAINS, does 1000s oh hand stand push ups, sit ups, crunches, concentrates at ki, runs around the mountains
7:30pm gets back home
8:00pm has dinner with his family typical dinner dinasour tail, fish, vegetables,sausage,cooked eggs, bacon
8:30pm takes a bath
9:30pm helps chi chi put gohan to sleep, might sing him a lullaby
10:00pm goku and chi chi both fall asleep

goku is my best friend so i know a lot about him
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:13 pm

You know, the question of how Goku used the Time Chamber way back then and couldn't handle it made me realize something I never wondered before now...Kami wouldn't have been able to handle it in there either, so who the hell would have ever used it before then?

That aside, as has been said Goku didn't seem to have done much of anything between the 23rd tournament and the arrival of Raditz. I presume the discovery of a living partner that can cook for him, as well as sex, distracted him too much. :P
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Post by rereboy » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:15 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:You know, the question of how Goku used the Time Chamber way back then and couldn't handle it made me realize something I never wondered before now...Kami wouldn't have been able to handle it in there either, so who the hell would have ever used it before then?
There were many Kamis before the current Kami and perhaps many other earthling champions.

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Gyt Kaliba wrote:That aside, as has been said Goku didn't seem to have done much of anything between the 23rd tournament and the arrival of Raditz. I presume the discovery of a living partner that can cook for him, as well as sex, distracted him too much. :P
It's clear that he's trained during that period. He was stronger than Piccolo.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:24 pm

rereboy wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:You know, the question of how Goku used the Time Chamber way back then and couldn't handle it made me realize something I never wondered before now...Kami wouldn't have been able to handle it in there either, so who the hell would have ever used it before then?
There were many Kamis before the current Kami and perhaps many other earthling champions.
That's what I figured in a way. It's definitely interesting to think about other characters from way before our current cast that may have been a lot stronger than them, at least for a good portion of the story. Too bad we'll probably never see anything dealing with such an idea.
ABED wrote:It's clear that he's trained during that period. He was stronger than Piccolo.
Yeah, but probably not as much so as he would have been if he'd been as focused on training as he had been in the past. He didn't have anything new to bring to the table like Piccolo did. The Mankankosappo may have been unwieldy in how long it'd take to charge, but if Piccolo had been able to remedy that and Goku still hadn't done much, then I don't think he's have won in a second fight against Piccolo.
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Post by Draken » Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:29 pm

Well as we've seen multiple times, power level doesn't necessarily correlate with the amount of gravity you can handle, so it's possible Kami has gone inside before.

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Gyt Kaliba wrote:
ABED wrote:It's clear that he's trained during that period. He was stronger than Piccolo.
Yeah, but probably not as much so as he would have been if he'd been as focused on training as he had been in the past. He didn't have anything new to bring to the table like Piccolo did. The Mankankosappo may have been unwieldy in how long it'd take to charge, but if Piccolo had been able to remedy that and Goku still hadn't done much, then I don't think he's have won in a second fight against Piccolo.
Goku isn't really a fighter that's dependent on new attacks. He just needs to improve his speed and strength (which he did), and he's fine. He works better off the cuff.
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Post by Saiga » Mon Jan 13, 2014 12:15 am

If you think God got weaker over time (like assuming that 220 BP in the Saiyan arc is him weakening due to age) then perhaps he was able to handle the RoSaT at some point in time before Goku met him.
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TenshiGokuu wrote:
Analytical Delusion wrote:We have some idea of how Piccolo trained, since I believe the anime guide notes Toriyama devised the split-form trainingn technique. Meditation probably was certainly part of his regime, as well.

What about Goku, though? Do any of the guidebooks or other materials suggest any training that he did in particular?He probably stayed home a bit, what with marriage and Gohan being born. One of the GB games (Goku Hishouden) had him getting into an argument with Chi Chi and going to train with God at some point during the break, so that's one possibility I suppose (though he had surpassed Popo and God, the thinner air certainly could help; maybe this is where the month in the ROSAT occurred?).

Anyhow, enough speculation on my part. Is there anything hinted, anywhere?
he stayed with his wife chi chi and raised his son gohan
his typical day was
8:00am wakes up
8:15am brushes his teeth and takes shower
8:30am has breakfast with chi chi special cooked meals, 10 servings of egg omelet and pancakes with strawberry jam and whip cream dessert
9:00am -11:00am helps around the house cleans, plows the field gardens outside they have potatoes,tomatoes,vegetables all stuff need taken care of,also he waters the flowers
11:30am takes gohan and chi chi for a walk, they stay at park, have picnic, and go back home
1:00pm-2:30pm goku hunts for food, brings dinosour tails, wolfs, fish, different fruits
2:45pm-7:00pm GOKU TRAINS, TRAINS AND MORE TRAINS, does 1000s oh hand stand push ups, sit ups, crunches, concentrates at ki, runs around the mountains
7:30pm gets back home
8:00pm has dinner with his family typical dinner dinasour tail, fish, vegetables,sausage,cooked eggs, bacon
8:30pm takes a bath
9:30pm helps chi chi put gohan to sleep, might sing him a lullaby
10:00pm goku and chi chi both fall asleep

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