How did Akira Toriyama come up with Super Saiyan 3?

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How did Akira Toriyama come up with Super Saiyan 3?

Post by SSJ3_Zack » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:55 am

I'm curious. is there any interviews in which Akira Toriyama talks about how he came up with the design for Super Saiyan 3? It's such a cool design, probably my second favourite design in Dragonball (Bested only by Piccolo's design).

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Re: How did Akira Toriyama come up with Super Saiyan 3?

Post by Blade » Mon Jan 20, 2014 6:01 am

I'm not sure about extensive interviews on the subject, but here's his rough designs (taken from the old Daizenshuu site):

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Kanzenshuu's 'Transformation Guide' section is still under work, but I'm sure there'll be a bit more meat-on-the-bones regarding Super Saiyan 3.

Incidentally, Toriyama actually confused the form with 'Super Saiyan 2' when contributing to the writing of Battle of Gods.
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Re: How did Akira Toriyama come up with Super Saiyan 3?

Post by SSJ3_Zack » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:49 am

Blade wrote:I'm not sure about extensive interviews on the subject, but here's his rough designs (taken from the old Daizenshuu site):

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Kanzenshuu's 'Transformation Guide' section is still under work, but I'm sure there'll be a bit more meat-on-the-bones regarding Super Saiyan 3.

Incidentally, Toriyama actually confused the form with 'Super Saiyan 2' when contributing to the writing of Battle of Gods.
Thank you! That's quite interesting that he was going to re-add the tail with the form as well.

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Re: How did Akira Toriyama come up with Super Saiyan 3?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:02 am

Thought id post this. A fan did a drawing of one of the SSJ3 concepts. Not exactly up there with Toriyama but it gives you a good idea of what it looks like.
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Re: How did Akira Toriyama come up with Super Saiyan 3?

Post by Blade » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:10 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Thought id post this. A fan did a drawing of one of the SSJ3 concepts. Not exactly up there with Toriyama but it gives you a good idea of what it looks like.
Just on a side-note, digging the Photoshop stock brush texture the artist used for the grass. :P
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Re: How did Akira Toriyama come up with Super Saiyan 3?

Post by B » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:01 am

I believe part of it is how the form is seemingly ridiculous.
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Re: How did Akira Toriyama come up with Super Saiyan 3?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Tue Jan 21, 2014 12:49 pm

B wrote:I believe part of it is how the form is seemingly ridiculous.
At least it's not as bad as SSJ4
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Re: How did Akira Toriyama come up with Super Saiyan 3?

Post by B » Tue Jan 21, 2014 2:03 pm

Well, that's kind of the thing. There's no sense of parody or self-awareness with Super Saiyan 4. It's going for a more powerful, primal look; it hints at being the purest form of the Saiyans and is closer to their ape roots.

The question it presents, however, is "Is that interesting? At all?"
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Re: How did Akira Toriyama come up with Super Saiyan 3?

Post by baneofdemon22 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:51 pm

B wrote:Well, that's kind of the thing. There's no sense of parody or self-awareness with Super Saiyan 4. It's going for a more powerful, primal look; it hints at being the purest form of the Saiyans and is closer to their ape roots.

The question it presents, however, is "Is that interesting? At all?"
That is awesome! That's the way I am with a lot things people are complaining about plot-wise in the series. If I can come up with an explanation, I'm good. If it follows the first thing that comes to my mind, then it's not that interesting.

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