Will Toei animation censor the buu saga of Kai like Toriko?

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Will Toei animation censor the buu saga of Kai like Toriko?

Post by JEFFMAN219 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:24 am

Do you guys think will Toei censer the buu saga of Kai like they did with the Toriko anime?

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Post by Mewzard » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:30 am

JEFFMAN219 wrote:Do you guys think will Toei censer the buu saga of Kai like they did with the Toriko anime?
Apparently, there's some law that only implies to series made after a certain year in the 2000s. Dragon Ball was made in the 80s, it's fine.
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Post by JEFFMAN219 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:34 am

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JEFFMAN219 wrote:Do you guys think will Toei censer the buu saga of Kai like they did with the Toriko anime?
Apparently, there's some law that only implies to series made after a certain year in the 2000s. Dragon Ball was made in the 80s, it's fine.
But then how come they took some blood out of some scenes in Kai like Piccolo killing Goku and Raditz.

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Post by bkev » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:09 am

The censorship ultimately boils down to the 9:00 AM time slot v. the original run's Wednesday nights.

I don't remember what there would be to censor in the Buu arc, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few things they modify beyond the tracing.
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Re: Will Toei animation censer the buu saga of Kai like Tori

Post by Mewzard » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:28 am

bkev wrote:The censorship ultimately boils down to the 9:00 AM time slot v. the original run's Wednesday nights.

I don't remember what there would be to censor in the Buu arc, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few things they modify beyond the tracing.
But remember, Kai's Buu Arc is being done for foreign markets right now, so they'd be more likely to edit for their own version, especially if Funi and co expressed a desire for Uncut.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:35 am

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JEFFMAN219 wrote:Do you guys think will Toei censer the buu saga of Kai like they did with the Toriko anime?
Apparently, there's some law that only implies to series made after a certain year in the 2000s. Dragon Ball was made in the 80s, it's fine.
But then how come they took some blood out of some scenes in Kai like Piccolo killing Goku and Raditz.
It was to mimic the manga. Heres the scene in the manga.
Heres the scene in the original Z broadcast and uncut Kai
Z had too much blood, Kai had to little, but seeing as the manga only has abit of blood, id have to give it to Kai for being the closer representation.
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Post by sintzu » Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:16 am

Was there anything worth censering ?
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Post by Freeza Soldier #156 » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:00 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote: Z had too much blood, Kai had to little, but seeing as the manga only has abit of blood, id have to give it to Kai for being the closer representation.
Removing some blood doesn't bother me, but did they really have to make the wounds look like bruises? They could of taken out the blood and still left the holes. Raditz's doesn't look too bad, but in other shots while Goku is falling, you can see his body through the "wound" so it doesn't even look like the beam pierced him.

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Post by ErikB » Fri Jan 31, 2014 3:56 pm

sintzu wrote:Was there anything worth censering ?
Well, there was the bit where Babidi makes a Tenkaichi Budoukai employee's head explode. He makes Spopovich's whole body explode too but it's...'cleaner' (in the anime anyway, in the manga you can see various parts of his body flying outward from the explosion).

And after Kuririn and Piccolo are turned back to normal, Trunks goes to check where Piccolo was and sees his body all in pieces. If I remember correctly (haven't seen this episode in a long time), there's no actual shot of Piccolo's dismembered body, but you see a shot that includes his foot and a fair bit of blood. I wouldn't be surprised if that's cleaned up a little.

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Post by Fulicer » Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:27 am

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sintzu wrote:Was there anything worth censering ?
Well, there was the bit where Babidi makes a Tenkaichi Budoukai employee's head explode. He makes Spopovich's whole body explode too but it's...'cleaner' (in the anime anyway, in the manga you can see various parts of his body flying outward from the explosion).

And after Kuririn and Piccolo are turned back to normal, Trunks goes to check where Piccolo was and sees his body all in pieces. If I remember correctly (haven't seen this episode in a long time), there's no actual shot of Piccolo's dismembered body, but you see a shot that includes his foot and a fair bit of blood. I wouldn't be surprised if that's cleaned up a little.
It seems like they clean up red blood more. I don't think Freeza's or King Cold's blood was censored. So maybe Piccolo's scene will be left as-is, assuming it's not condensed for time.

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Post by Duo » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:47 am

The Majin Buu arc involves Buu going inside of a dude and then making him explode. That's...yeah, censor-able.

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Post by penguintruth » Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:07 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
Z had too much blood, Kai had to little, but seeing as the manga only has abit of blood, id have to give it to Kai for being the closer representation.
This is total bullshit. That's not taking out a little blood, that's taking out the HOLE. It looks like Goku simply got a giant cigarette burn on him in the Kai version. You can see the skin still in the "hole" part.

They butchered that scene. It would be one thing if they cut down the blood, but they cut it out entirely along with THE FREAKING HOLE THE BEAM MADE.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:43 am

Possibly Buu killing Babbidi, and exploding that one dude from the inside, those were pretty graphic.

Along with Babbidi killing Spopovich and the guy at the World Tournament by making his head explode.

On a similar note, do you think they'll censor middle fingers? I can think of 3 from the Buu Saga. (I'm asking because I don't know if previous middle fingers were in Kai as well)

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Post by Mewzard » Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:06 pm

But here's the thing: We know they were making the Buu Saga of Kai for foreign markets, and we know at least Funi has no problem with releasing stuff like what Z had in this era uncut these days. Would they censor anything? Maybe they'll leave that up to those who wish to do so.

Leaving things uncut can only help Funi show that Kai isn't just a censored version of Z (since some people will only believe what they see, and miss the higher quality acting and script).
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Post by RocktheDragon » Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:13 pm

As someone who is in the midst of watching Kai right now the loss of blood hasn't really bothered me. As long as they don't censor too much where it would effect my understanding/enjoyment of a pivotal part of the series makes me think it'll be alright.
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Post by Naruto6583 » Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:41 pm

There's something you need to realize. Compared to back then when dbz first aired japan is more strict on censoring compared to the 80's where they weren't so strict. I mean theres still blood there but it has to be censored due to there laws when it comes to animated products
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Post by JEFFMAN219 » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:37 pm

I just hope that Toei does not completely remove blood from the Buu saga of Kai just like they did with Toriko because man they turned Toriko into a show for 7 year olds.

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Post by Gonstead » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:48 pm

JEFFMAN219 wrote:I just hope that Toei does not completely remove blood from the Buu saga of Kai just like they did with Toriko because man they turned Toriko into a show for 7 year olds.
Shonen shows generally are intended for kids, blood or no blood.
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Post by Ajay » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:49 pm

Gonstead wrote:
JEFFMAN219 wrote:I just hope that Toei does not completely remove blood from the Buu saga of Kai just like they did with Toriko because man they turned Toriko into a show for 7 year olds.
Shonen shows generally are intended for kids, blood or no blood.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:53 pm

Well, is there anything for them to censor? The most bloody scenes I recall are the fights with Vegeta, which have Vegeta covered in blood. But I doubt they will censor these scenes, and it's not like they censored many things in Kai.

Plus, the Toriko manga has much, much, MUCH more blood that Dragon Ball ever had. It did need some censorship to play on TV, but I think they went too far.
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