Training in the Gravity room?

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Training in the Gravity room?

Post by TenshiGokuu » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:12 pm

So i was wondering, what would be your most G you will be able to handle and train in the gravity room? Like for me i could possibly handle 10G but that's if i try really hard, but i could easily handle 2-3G since I'm a super human hehe. Also if i was for example were able to master higher gravity, would my strength, speed and durability increase? or is it the strength and just speed that will increase, or maybe nothing increases? because in dragon ball, i saw how Roshi was training goku and krillin, and after delivering milk while having 40kg on them they were able to jump and fight much stronger.

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Post by Gonstead » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:36 am

We as humans can barely cope in situations with anything simply above 1G. 10G we would be crushed, most likely instantly killing us.
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Re: Training in the Gravity room?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:28 am

The fighters in DB can survive because they have ki. We don't have such a thing.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:24 am

Maybe 1.1 gs
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Re: Training in the Gravity room?

Post by Flame Dragon » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:46 am

I think the max we would be able to withstand would be 1, 2x or 1, 3x gravity. Which would still improve training by a lot.

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Re: Training in the Gravity room?

Post by TenshiGokuu » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:58 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The fighters in DB can survive because they have ki. We don't have such a thing.
goku said that everyone has ki. we just dont use it, and its called energy, our bodies made up of it, because thats how life and universe was possible to exist.
we can probably somehow learn to convert our mass into energy and eventually use it to amp up our body to handle intense measures, as well as being able to jump high and punch thru rocks.

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Re: Training in the Gravity room?

Post by The Monkey King » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:04 pm

TenshiGokuu wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The fighters in DB can survive because they have ki. We don't have such a thing.
goku said that everyone has ki. we just dont use it, and its called energy, our bodies made up of it, because thats how life and universe was possible to exist.
we can probably somehow learn to convert our mass into energy and eventually use it to amp up our body to handle intense measures, as well as being able to jump high and punch thru rocks.
That applies for everyone in the Dragon Ball universe, not ours.
Feel free to meditate for 50 years just to be sure though :thumbup:

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Re: Training in the Gravity room?

Post by TenshiGokuu » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:22 pm

The Monkey King wrote:
TenshiGokuu wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The fighters in DB can survive because they have ki. We don't have such a thing.
goku said that everyone has ki. we just dont use it, and its called energy, our bodies made up of it, because thats how life and universe was possible to exist.
we can probably somehow learn to convert our mass into energy and eventually use it to amp up our body to handle intense measures, as well as being able to jump high and punch thru rocks.
That applies for everyone in the Dragon Ball universe, not ours.
Feel free to meditate for 50 years just to be sure though :thumbup:
where is dragon ball universe then?

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Post by kei17 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:30 pm

Humans can bear up under 10G or more as long as it's for a brief moment, but things are different when you're exposed to high G forces for many hours.
TenshiGokuu wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The fighters in DB can survive because they have ki. We don't have such a thing.
goku said that everyone has ki. we just dont use it, and its called energy, our bodies made up of it, because thats how life and universe was possible to exist.
we can probably somehow learn to convert our mass into energy and eventually use it to amp up our body to handle intense measures, as well as being able to jump high and punch thru rocks.
Are you high or what?

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Post by shinmaru » Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:03 pm

kei17 wrote:Humans can bear up under 10G or more as long as it's for a brief moment, but things are different when you're exposed to high G forces for many hours.
TenshiGokuu wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The fighters in DB can survive because they have ki. We don't have such a thing.
goku said that everyone has ki. we just dont use it, and its called energy, our bodies made up of it, because thats how life and universe was possible to exist.
we can probably somehow learn to convert our mass into energy and eventually use it to amp up our body to handle intense measures, as well as being able to jump high and punch thru rocks.
Are you high or what?
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Post by Metalwario64 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:05 pm

kei17 wrote:Are you high or what?
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Re: Training in the Gravity room?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:25 pm

TenshiGokuu wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:The fighters in DB can survive because they have ki. We don't have such a thing.
goku said that everyone has ki. we just dont use it, and its called energy, our bodies made up of it, because thats how life and universe was possible to exist.
we can probably somehow learn to convert our mass into energy and eventually use it to amp up our body to handle intense measures, as well as being able to jump high and punch thru rocks.
:wtf:

How old are you again?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Training in the Gravity room?

Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:00 pm

According to sources on the internet, they say the human body can handle up to 3x our normal gravity. Any more than that, we'd black out, and start having bodily dysfunctions. And this may even apply to the most fit people. So people as weak as me, who are hardly built up in muscle, probably won't handle 2x.

And here's a link I just read about. NASA said people have handled up to 2x our gravity. I'd like to know how fit they were though.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:20 pm

TenshiGokuu wrote: where is dragon ball universe then?
Where? It's not a place. Unless you have the ability to travel into comic books and/or TVs, you can't go there.

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Re: Training in the Gravity room?

Post by Haji » Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:35 pm

I believe we have energy,ki,chi,nen or whatever you know it as but, being able to do things like in DragonBall? i don't see anyone reaching that level. What can humans achieve? well look at martial artists.

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Re: Training in the Gravity room?

Post by TenshiGokuu » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:36 pm

Haji wrote:I believe we have energy,ki,chi,nen or whatever you know it as but, being able to do things like in DragonBall? i don't see anyone reaching that level. What can humans achieve? well look at martial artists.
i do believe its possible for me too acheave kaioken though, you just have to train a lot, get used to having to everyday carry heavy vest that have 1/2 of my weight, and then i could probably amply everything that i trained and convert it to double my speed, strength and durability.

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TenshiGokuu wrote:
Haji wrote:I believe we have energy,ki,chi,nen or whatever you know it as but, being able to do things like in DragonBall? i don't see anyone reaching that level. What can humans achieve? well look at martial artists.
i do believe its possible for me too acheave kaioken though, you just have to train a lot, get used to having to everyday carry heavy vest that have 1/2 of my weight, and then i could probably amply everything that i trained and convert it to double my speed, strength and durability.
This reminds me of this.

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TenshiGokuu wrote:
Haji wrote:I believe we have energy,ki,chi,nen or whatever you know it as but, being able to do things like in DragonBall? i don't see anyone reaching that level. What can humans achieve? well look at martial artists.
i do believe its possible for me too acheave kaioken though, you just have to train a lot, get used to having to everyday carry heavy vest that have 1/2 of my weight, and then i could probably amply everything that i trained and convert it to double my speed, strength and durability.
No offense but how old are you?
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Re: Training in the Gravity room?

Post by Gokuden » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:37 pm

Your organs would fail at 2g, try again. I was thinking about this before, then I researched it on the physics forum, everyone said that the human body would fail at 2g. However, they said that such a room where someone was monitored for 3 hours a day at 1.3 had some results, but with the results came extra stress on the bones, muscles, organs, and fluids.

So, no... You can't train in the gravity room like Vegeta.
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Re: Training in the Gravity room?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:41 pm

Haji wrote:I believe we have energy,ki,chi,nen or whatever you know it as but, being able to do things like in DragonBall? i don't see anyone reaching that level. What can humans achieve? well look at martial artists.
I know that certain qi/chakra/chi beliefs are part of Eastern mysticism, and I generally like to avoid stepping on anyone's toes when it comes to religious beliefs, but, in point of fact, that stuff's not real. Sorry dude.
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