Kai treatment for the specials

[supersaiyan3]

Do you guys think that the Bardock special and History of Trunks should have been re-done with Kai?

I know the whole point is to cut out the stuff that wasn't in the manga, but considering how the Bardock backstory was in episode one of Kai, it would make sense to actually explain it in a special. As for the History of Trunks, I mean, who wouldn't love to see that? (Plus we'd get to hear it with 18's new VA). I'm guessing it didn't happen because there wouldn't be much to cut; it would just be the same special with slightly updated animation and slightly improved dialog. But at the same time, another goal of Kai was to bring the show to new audiences and I think the specials could have helped to increase the hype.

I think it's pretty clear it's never going to happen at this point, but why do you think they didn't include the specials?

[UltimateHammerBro]

Probably because they are, well, specials. They're not in the manga. Even the Trunks special is different enough to (and cooler than) the manga version.
The Bardock special was summarised really well in episode one. I don't remember well, but did they include some scenes from the Trunks special as flashbacks? If they didn't, it would have been a good idea to replace the anime-only flashbacks with maybe ten minutes of Trunks telling his story, using the special.

[sintzu]

Hopfuly one day they will give the 2 specials and the original 12 dbz movies the kai hd picture and the kai script which i dout they will but then again we said the same thing about the buu saga a few years ago so it's not unrealistic to ask for it

[dbboxkaifan]

Originally they weren't that interesting and trying to improve them is just a waste of time, the Episode of Bardock is tedious to watch but one scene makes it somewhat worth it that is.. Super Saiyan Bardock.

[Freeza Soldier #156]

Originally they weren't that interesting and trying to improve them is just a waste of time, the Episode of Bardock is tedious to watch but one scene makes it somewhat worth it that is.. Super Saiyan Bardock.

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the original Bardock special, not Episode of Bardock. And I definitely disagree about them being uninteresting. Those two specials are more interesting to me than any of the movies (except BOG). I especially like how they actually fit in with the timeline of the series, something none of the movies do (again, except BOG). That said, there is pretty much a 0% chance of TOEI going back and doing anything with them. I would be much more interested in seeing FUNimation go back and redub the specials. There is better chance of that happening than TOEI doing anything, but still pretty unlikely.

[Naruto6583]

Originally they weren't that interesting and trying to improve them is just a waste of time, the Episode of Bardock is tedious to watch but one scene makes it somewhat worth it that is.. Super Saiyan Bardock.

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the original Bardock special, not Episode of Bardock. And I definitely disagree about them being uninteresting. Those two specials are more interesting to me than any of the movies (except BOG). I especially like how they actually fit in with the timeline of the series, something none of the movies do (again, except BOG). That said, there is pretty much a 0% chance of TOEI going back and doing anything with them. I would be much more interested in seeing FUNimation go back and redub the specials. There is better chance of that happening than TOEI doing anything, but still pretty unlikely.

actually the first broly movie and bojack unbound also fit into the timeline as well as wrath of the dragon

[xmysticgohanx]

Originally they weren't that interesting and trying to improve them is just a waste of time, the Episode of Bardock is tedious to watch but one scene makes it somewhat worth it that is.. Super Saiyan Bardock.

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the original Bardock special, not Episode of Bardock. And I definitely disagree about them being uninteresting. Those two specials are more interesting to me than any of the movies (except BOG). I especially like how they actually fit in with the timeline of the series, something none of the movies do (again, except BOG). That said, there is pretty much a 0% chance of TOEI going back and doing anything with them. I would be much more interested in seeing FUNimation go back and redub the specials. There is better chance of that happening than TOEI doing anything, but still pretty unlikely.

actually the first broly movie and bojack unbound also fit into the timeline as well as wrath of the dragon

Toriyama said before BoG came out that the movies take place in alternate dimensions [I really like movies 10, and 13 tho (5, 6, and 9 are alright; 1 and 8 suck IMO)]. As for the first Bardock special we learn in Jaco that Goku came to Earth as a 2 year old not a new born.

[RocktheDragon]

I would definitely welcome a Kai treatment for Bardock Father of Goku. It is probably my favorite anime component of DB as a whole, and could even be my favorite piece of anime from any general series. It would be great to have voices re-dubbed and the music outputted in higher quality.

I'm not holding my breath though and am fine with having the copy of Bardock that I already own. It doesn't need to be re-made but it sure would be a nice extra down the line at some point.

[Naruto6583]

I would definitely welcome a Kai treatment for Bardock Father of Goku. It is probably my favorite anime component of DB as a whole, and could even be my favorite piece of anime from any general series. It would be great to have voices re-dubbed and the music outputted in higher quality.

I'm not holding my breath though and am fine with having the copy of Bardock that I already own. It doesn't need to be re-made but it sure would be a nice extra down the line at some point.

One of these days I'm gonna do a kai fandub and the movies/specials/ovas and they will all get the kai treatment. episodes 1-98. the two specials episode of bardock and plan to eradicate the super saiyans and movies 1-9 will have yamamoto and the buu arc,movies 10-13, yo son goku and his friends return and battle of gods will have sumitomo. The script for the movie's, specials and ovas will be based off the original japanese dub as well as the titles for them. But this will all be sometime in the near

[Freeza Soldier #156]

Toriyama said before BoG came out that the movies take place in alternate dimensions

This is kinda what I was getting at. While it's true you can shoehorn a few of the movies into the timeline, they were never created with any real thought for consistency and were never really meant to be considered as part of it. The two specials, on the other hand, were.

[sintzu]

Toriyama said before BoG came out that the movies take place in alternate dimensions .

Off topic :

If he said the movies are in an alternate dimension and GT is a side story then why do fans fight about what is and what isn't canon ?

[garnetjester]

Because some fans think that the manga has plotholes, and that means that nothing is canon at all (or something like that)

I don't think the movies need any re-animating or cutting as to justify a Kai treatment, since they were produced to be theatrically released, they were more carefully constructed and better animated in general.

[dbboxkaifan]

Some fans also wanted "Dragon Ball GT Kai" forgetting that GT was anime-only and so it wouldn't be possible since Kai meant to be closer to the manga which GT didn't have.

However, if it were to be cut down of dull moments then that's another story but overall subjective so some'd like while others wouldn't, just leave Dragon Ball GT as is.

Dragon Ball Kai itself wasn't profitable enough for Toei Animation much less making more money out of it.

[RocktheDragon]

Toriyama said before BoG came out that the movies take place in alternate dimensions

This is kinda what I was getting at. While it's true you can shoehorn a few of the movies into the timeline, they were never created with any real thought for consistency and were never really meant to be considered as part of it. The two specials, on the other hand, were.

Very cool. Well if you ever do get around to it and it's a decent effort please let me know through PM.

[Luso Saiyan]

I wouldn't mind to see the Bardock TV special properly restored and released on its OAR. I'd say it's almost impossible to make the dub more faithful to the script, but it's something I would like to see as well.

[KentalSSJ6]

Would certainly be nice. Though id rather see a redub than a remaster for the specials and movies.

[Vegard Aune]

The only question that comes to mind for me is... why would they do that? The Bardock-special was completely anime-original, and, having been written from the get-go as a 45 minute special, is paced just fine. The Trunks-special is a rare case for me of Toei actually using anime-original content effectively, allowing it to contribute to the atmosphere of the story rather than just being a random cutaway to fill time like they so often do in the show. It, too, is paced just fine. I wouldn't want a cut down version of either of these two specials, so really the only advantage I can see from it would be higher quality audio... And even then that would also come with a revised soundtrack, more than likely, which I for one would not want either. Like, the Bardock-special without Solidstate Scouter and Hikari no Tabi would quite simply not be the same.

[TheOverlyMadHatter]

Pretty much the above summed up: There would be no point to it. How would you even go about Kai-ifying the specials? They're their own products, not adapted from the manga, aside History of Trunks which would probably be summed up in less than 10 minutes if it were to be remade. On the other hand, if FUNimation could redub the specials (which it probably won't), that'd be pretty awesome.

[garnetjester]

And also, now that DB- was published, Bardock's TV special doesn't even fit with Toriyama's story at all anymore, so there's even less of a reason to do anything with it.

[Luso Saiyan]

And also, now that DB- was published, Bardock's TV special doesn't even fit with Toriyama's story at all anymore, so there's even less of a reason to do anything with it.

Even if true, since when is that a reason for abandoning them?