What should Toei focus on after Kai?

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What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by Basaku » Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:41 pm

What should Toei focus on expanding the DB franchise after Kai's done airing? Kai-fying the original DB? Actual remake of DB/DBZ (like the new Sailor Moon Crystal or Hunter x Hunter)? Heroes anime? BOG movie sequels? Reboot (like Saint Seiya Omega)? New series between Z & GT? GT remake/replacement series?

I enjoy all the different new things we've been getting in the past few years (Minus, Bardock, Plan to Eradicate SSJs remake, Heroes, 2008 special, BOG) but at the same time I feel like it's all over the place and Kai is obviously still the primary focus of Toei ATM. The franchise needs a strong direction to move forward after Kai ends. What would you want the most?

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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by MagicBox » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:55 pm

I doubt they'll try to do a "Kai" version of the original Dragon Ball, nor should they. That whole project idea completely blew up in their faces and it's been nothing but trouble for them since. I have no doubts that they'll move on to something else after the current run of Kai ends. Likewise, it's because of Kai being so fresh in everyone's minds that a from-the-ground-up remake would also make no sense. They just did a remake; brand new animation isn't going to sustain viewer interest or push merchandise sales if it's just the same thing over and over and over again. If Toei eventually does attempt a full remake, I don't suspect we'll get it within the current voice cast's lifetime. They can't go with the exact same idea so soon after Kai ends, especially if it means a bigger budget (which new animation undoubtedly will).

A Heroes series would make some sense, I guess. It's doing really well. But I have a feeling Toei won't attempt that unless they come up with a plan to simultaneously give the Heroes games some sort of international presence. This is a global franchise, after all. They'd have to think about something like that if they want a hit, and they do.

Personally, I just hope they take a rest from TV. A good, long rest. Give the brand a little time to build up some demand, and let fans rest from Kai. Of course, "Battle Of Gods" launched us into a revival; they have to milk that while they can. Keep the brand alive right now via feature films. I really think that's the best way to go right now.
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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by B » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:00 pm

Unless Toriyama had a lot of input(which wouldn't happen for a weekly TV show) I'd rather not have Toei try and write more stories themselves.

Do it like Bond. Make a movie every couple of years. I don't subscribe to the notion that something needs to be happening in the Dragon World at all times. For fans of a thirty-year-old series that was effectively finished twelve years in, including GT, we have been extremely lucky, and perhaps a little spoiled.

EDIT: Corrected about the Omega/Lost Canvas debacle by Puto; thanks.
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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by Puto » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:08 pm

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Basaku wrote:Reboot (like Saint Seiya Omega)
Saint Seiya Omega is a spin-off manga overseen by the original author that got an adaptation.
You're confusing Omega with Lost Canvas. Saint Seiya Omega is an entirely anime-original story with no manga behind it.
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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:10 pm

I suspect Toei Animation will try to capitalize on Dragon Ball Heroes. Even without an international presence a cartoon would be produced cheaply enough that Fuji Televi, Toei Animation, and possibly Bandai should be able to make money off it should the cards see a boost in sales.

Personally, I'd like to see the late-night model used. One or two cour series with actual talent behind the series. There are plenty of different stories you can do with Dragon Ball to attract Otaku to buy $60-80 two-episode Blu-rays, especially if the animation and music is top-notch.
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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by Kid Buu » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:47 pm

Focus on Sailor Moon

No more DB please
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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:54 pm

Dragon Ball wasn't made to be in 16x9 AR, you know, besides, are you happy with the sub-par quality of Dragon Ball Kai: Majin Boo arc?

People need to stop asking for more Kai stuff it obviously isn't being made for quality reasons.
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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by Fizzer » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:55 pm

I believe it'll be another movie over the next couple of years. I think that's going to be a thing now.

A full-fledged remake will happen eventually, but since Kai just happened, and sort of flopped, I don't think it'll happen until the 50th anniversary of the manga, at which point there'll be an entirely new voice cast.

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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by Vijay » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:02 pm

Focus of Kai-fication of DragonBall, then GT & later...man, getting real tired of TOEI.

Kinda agree with Kid Buu. No more DragonBall please. Certain masterpiece are best left untouched & Kai just...DBZ is classic. There's no reason to butcher it.

Positive suggestion would be reworking on conception of future "Kai's" from TOEI. Its not just filler-free show.

Why not more Battle of God films? Granted it'll take time, guess thats TOEI's future "cash-cow". Wouldn't be suprised if we get BoG 26: The Expandable Version.

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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:13 pm

Vijay wrote:Focus of Kai-fication of DragonBall, then GT & later...man, getting real tired of TOEI.

Kinda agree with Kid Buu. No more DragonBall please. Certain masterpiece are best left untouched & Kai just...DBZ is classic. There's no reason to butcher it.

Positive suggestion would be reworking on conception of future "Kai's" from TOEI. Its not just filler-free show.

Why not more Battle of God films? Granted it'll take time, guess thats TOEI's future "cash-cow". Wouldn't be suprised if we get BoG 26: The Expandable Version.
If Toei Animation still cared about Dragon Ball Kai they wouldn't be putting out picture quality that looks mediocre for an HD series, a soundtrack which is all over the place, sounds bland and unfitting plus to top it off the cropping ruins the original work because they wouldn't release a 4x3 AR version for the home release.

We were lucky that Toei Animation sent the 4x3 AR footage to FUNimation and other western companies but for the Majin Boo arc this might not be happening.
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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:17 pm

A Heroes TV series is likely given how popular the game is and they will run out of characters soon. Toyetic shows are very big in Japan for both kids and older fans as well. If the show does stay a Japanese exclusive show then fine by me. As long if we can watch it via fan subs then we should be okay.
MagicBox wrote: But I have a feeling Toei won't attempt that unless they come up with a plan to simultaneously give the Heroes games some sort of international presence. This is a global franchise, after all. They'd have to think about something like that if they want a hit, and they do.
Toei is a Japanese film and TV company. They make shows with a Japanese mind set since the people in their country are the main target audience. Toei does not make Dragon Ball for the people in the US. It's like saying that they make Super Sentai shows so they get adapted into Power Rangers.
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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by Kid Buu » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:22 pm

Vijay wrote:Kinda agree with Kid Buu. No more DragonBall please. Certain masterpiece are best left untouched & Kai just...DBZ is classic. There's no reason to butcher it.
With stuff like DB Minus, I think even Toriyama needs to retire from the series.
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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:24 pm

I find it funny that people don't want AT back to the franchise despite everyone wanting him back for years. I find DB- to be alright and BOG to be pretty good. If Toei does their own thing again than get ready for another pointless rehash of something that we seen a million times before.
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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:33 pm

1. Home video release of the entire series and movies in HD format with source material > today's standards hierarchy.
2. Complete soundtrack release.

This is the only thing I really want. After doing that, they can do what they want. I do not have any other Dragon Ball expectations.

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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:43 pm

Kojiro Sasaki wrote:1. Home video release of the entire series and movies in HD format with source material > today's standards hierarchy.
2. Complete soundtrack release.

This is the only thing I really want. After doing that, they can do what they want. I do not have any other Dragon Ball expectations.
It would be so lovely if they released the entire Dragon Ball GT soundtrack on CD as its music is so beautiful. The BGM that plays on GT's Ending is one of my favourites.
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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:43 pm

They should focus on retiring Dragonball. Jeez. Stop with the new stuff besides video games. YSGAGR should have been a one off thing. We don't need anymore new DB. We didn't need it every since Path to Power.

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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by Fizzer » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:44 pm

Kojiro Sasaki wrote:1. Home video release of the entire series and movies in HD format with source material > today's standards hierarchy.
2. Complete soundtrack release.

This is the only thing I really want. After doing that, they can do what they want. I do not have any other Dragon Ball expectations.
God, I hope that happens.

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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by ABED » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:49 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:They should focus on retiring Dragonball. Jeez. Stop with the new stuff besides video games. YSGAGR should have been a one off thing. We don't need anymore new DB. We didn't need it every since Path to Power.
We didn't need DB in the first place, it's just nice to have. Retiring DB is a bad idea if there's demand for the show.
What is YSGAGR?
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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:51 pm

ABED wrote:What is YSGAGR?
It's the 2008 Special. It's easier for people to acknowledge it by referring it as the "2008 Special".
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Re: What should Toei focus on after Kai?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:55 pm

ABED wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:They should focus on retiring Dragonball. Jeez. Stop with the new stuff besides video games. YSGAGR should have been a one off thing. We don't need anymore new DB. We didn't need it every since Path to Power.
We didn't need DB in the first place, it's just nice to have. Retiring DB is a bad idea if there's demand for the show.
What is YSGAGR?
Yo son Goku and Friends Return. You didn't get my point. Saying "we didn't need Db" has nothing to do with my post which is talking about AFTER the series was over. There's a high demand for Heroes which is a game which I already covered. Pretty sure Zenkai Royal has a decent fanbase too.

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