Can someone link me comparisons

[xmysticgohanx]

With the Funi dub music and the Japanese dub? I see people hate on Faulconer but I'd imagine since I like rap and most of you guys like rock it would be different and yes I know neither is rap or rock.

[Fionordequester]

I actually had three episodes worth of comparisons on Viddler, but, for some reason, I seem to have gotten locked out of my Viddler account, as it won't let me log in even when I put in the right password and username. In fact, even when I RESET the password, and put THAT in, it STILL won't let me on. And then when I try to follow links from my old comparisons thread, it says my pages don't exist anymore, so...I dunno.

[Ajay]

#1 Freeza arc - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZzl5g7RR4I
#2 Freeza arc Pt. 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwU2q2IIJNE
#3 Trunks' arrival - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOBXBuUW5_g
#4 Cell arc - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6NgoLclicM

This dude's channel is filled with comparisons - https://www.youtube.com/user/purifyDBZ/videos

And regarding Faulconer; it's not a case of people having different tastes in music, it's about what actually belongs in the show and accurately conveys the intended tone. The unfortunate truth is that a majority of the Faulconer tracks simply do not do that. A lot of them are fine standalone tracks, they just don't belong in Dragon Ball.

[Fionordequester]

And regarding Faulconer; it's not a case of people having different tastes in music, it's about what actually belongs in the show and accurately conveys the intended tone. The unfortunate truth is that a majority of the Faulconer tracks simply do not do that. A lot of them are fine standalone tracks, they just don't belong in Dragon Ball.

And I happen to disagree with you Ajay .

[Ajay]

Haha, oh wow. That's one extreme view he holds.

Spoiler:

Another clear example of the unarguably superior and original Japanese version next to the half-assed trash that is the Funimation dub. If you are over the age of 14 and still prefer Funimation or Ocean's butchery of Dragon Ball Z over the original Japanese version, I would highly suggest seeking a medical and psychiatric evaluation. The original Japanese version of Dragon Ball Z being vastly superior is not an opinion, but rather, an indisputable fact. Dragon ball Z in Japanese is the only true, real, and genuine version in existence. This is to say, in other words, that any Dragon Ball Z version dubbed in English released thus far is a fake, untrue to the original anime. The original music by Shunsuke Kikuchi is massively superior to the disgusting, ear-wrenching filth composed by Bruce Faulconer. Also, Goku's Japanese voice actor (Masako Nozawa) is infinitely better and far more talented than the English voice actor for Son Goku. Her voice fits the intended character that is Goku perfectly and flawlessly, unlike Sean Schemmel's corny and generic Superman-like spin on the character. Surely the music and voice actors hand-picked by the creator and author of Dragon Ball (Akira Toriyama) would be the only truly genuine and accurate ones, right? Of course. To say otherwise would be the equivalent of being wrong. Also take note at the amount of vocal and musical silences in the Japanese version of Dragon Ball Z and how they impact the viewer as opposed to the unnecessary noise that encompasses the entirety of the English dub. Whether it is playing Faulconer's garbage music when a scene would be more dramatically and emotionally powerful silent or voice actors adding in corny and unneeded lines when the character isn't saying anything in the original and true Japanese version, Funimation's attempts at holding the attention of their target audience (children and teenagers) is nothing more than irritating. If you're under the age of twenty (20), mentally ill in the slightest, or just an ignorant nerd who hasn't even compared the Japanese version to the English one, don't bother wasting your time and commenting here; you'll be ignored or your excuses/opinions laughed at. Funimation did release the Dragon Boxes to which I'll give them credit. I am very grateful to have been able to purchase them and they did a wonderful job.

I mean...I don't disagree with a lot of his opinions but I don't think that's the best way to go about presenting them!

EDIT: Oh, you changed your post to refer to me now.

Well shit, each to their own. I can't tolerate Faulconer. Please keep droney synth music out of my Dragon Ball. I feel like Kai's current soundtrack exists to say 'hey, no more synth drone...but how about some upbeat synth now!'

[Fionordequester]

Haha, oh wow. That's one extreme view he holds.

Spoiler:

Another clear example of the unarguably superior and original Japanese version next to the half-assed trash that is the Funimation dub. If you are over the age of 14 and still prefer Funimation or Ocean's butchery of Dragon Ball Z over the original Japanese version, I would highly suggest seeking a medical and psychiatric evaluation. The original Japanese version of Dragon Ball Z being vastly superior is not an opinion, but rather, an indisputable fact. Dragon ball Z in Japanese is the only true, real, and genuine version in existence. This is to say, in other words, that any Dragon Ball Z version dubbed in English released thus far is a fake, untrue to the original anime. The original music by Shunsuke Kikuchi is massively superior to the disgusting, ear-wrenching filth composed by Bruce Faulconer. Also, Goku's Japanese voice actor (Masako Nozawa) is infinitely better and far more talented than the English voice actor for Son Goku. Her voice fits the intended character that is Goku perfectly and flawlessly, unlike Sean Schemmel's corny and generic Superman-like spin on the character. Surely the music and voice actors hand-picked by the creator and author of Dragon Ball (Akira Toriyama) would be the only truly genuine and accurate ones, right? Of course. To say otherwise would be the equivalent of being wrong. Also take note at the amount of vocal and musical silences in the Japanese version of Dragon Ball Z and how they impact the viewer as opposed to the unnecessary noise that encompasses the entirety of the English dub. Whether it is playing Faulconer's garbage music when a scene would be more dramatically and emotionally powerful silent or voice actors adding in corny and unneeded lines when the character isn't saying anything in the original and true Japanese version, Funimation's attempts at holding the attention of their target audience (children and teenagers) is nothing more than irritating. If you're under the age of twenty (20), mentally ill in the slightest, or just an ignorant nerd who hasn't even compared the Japanese version to the English one, don't bother wasting your time and commenting here; you'll be ignored or your excuses/opinions laughed at. Funimation did release the Dragon Boxes to which I'll give them credit. I am very grateful to have been able to purchase them and they did a wonderful job.

... . I mean, I know this part was from when you misinterpreted me, but, I'm not sure I get it. "Ha ha, that's one extreme opinion he has"...is that referring to me? Is that referring to someone else as an example of what EXTREME looks like (assuming you thought I was calling you extreme)? I don't get it...

[Ajay]

You wrote 'And I happen to disagree with him' initially which I took to mean the uploader of the video. What I quoted was the description of his videos which I assumed was what you were referring to.

You then changed it to specify my view and so I responded underneath that other tangent that just seems very out of place now!

[Fionordequester]

You wrote 'And I happen to disagree with him' initially which I took to mean the uploader of the video. What I quoted was the description of his videos which I assumed was what you were referring to.

You then changed it to specify my view and so I responded underneath that other tangent that just seems very out of place now!

Ah, oh well. That certainly WAS a pretty extreme opinion though!! Wonder what he'd do if someone broke his "no FUNI fans allowed" rule. Ban them from his channel?

EDIT: Actually...it seems like his video comment sections are like any other...huh. Guess he's not as bad as that message would've led me to believe.

[dbboxkaifan]

With the Funi dub music and the Japanese dub? I see people hate on Faulconer but I'd imagine since I like rap and most of you guys like rock it would be different and yes I know neither is rap or rock.

The original version is the Japanese audio it's not a "dub", that's the term you'd use for an international dub not the original source.

And most guys like rock? I for one don't nor hip-hop/rap unless it's songs that were produced with quality in mind, because for example, Lil Wayne's "music" is garbage.

[Fionordequester]

You know, Dbboxkiafan said something that I know he didn't mean, but it reminded me of one of my main pet peeves about some people who bag on Team Faulconer and the dub, and that's that I see a lot of people saying that Team Faulconer's "rock" style didn't fit the series, and the music was not orchestral, and therefore, the score was not suited for the series...

Whenever I see complaints like that, I often wonder if the haters even watched that much of the dub as opposed to just basing their opinions off of what the majority said. Because if you listen to the score, it's definitely not "rock". "Rock" was the insert songs you got when FUNI dubbed movies #4-10 (where I thought they did an absolutely terrible job on the music btw. Good thing they lessened up on that as the movies went along...)

I mean, there are rock songs in it, like "Destruction", "Super Buu", "Super Perfect Cell", and "Mr. Satan", but it definitely doesn't compose the majority of the library! Plus, there actually are a ton of orchestral instruments in the songs themselves, like the choirs in "Frieza Begs" and "Majin Buu", or stringed instruments, things that certainly aren't "rock".

I mean, I guess if I had to boil the score down to one style, it'd be "techno" since techno instruments seem to be what the score uses the most consistently, but even there, you'll find many songs that don't have any techno in them, like "SSJ Transformation", "Sad Theme", "Guru's Theme", "Frieza Dies", "A Little Help From a Friend", "Majin Buu", and others. Granted, most of those songs seem to be from the Frieza Arc, and the show did seem to put more and more techno in the score (with the most prominent being the tail end of the Buu arc), but the point is, the Team Faulconer score isn't one that you can really boil down to just one specific style.

I mean really, it's so frustrating ...

[Dbzfan94]

You know, Dbboxkiafan said something that I know he didn't mean, but it reminded me of one of my main pet peeves about some people who bag on Team Faulconer and the dub, and that's that I see a lot of people saying that Team Faulconer's "rock" style didn't fit the series, and the music was not orchestral, and therefore, the score was not suited for the series...

Whenever I see complaints like that, I often wonder if the haters even watched that much of the dub as opposed to just basing their opinions off of what the majority said. Because if you listen to the score, it's definitely not "rock". "Rock" was the insert songs you got when FUNI dubbed movies #4-10 (where I thought they did an absolutely terrible job on the music btw. Good thing they lessened up on that as the movies went along...)

I mean, there are rock songs in it, like "Destruction", "Super Buu", "Super Perfect Cell", and "Mr. Satan", but it definitely doesn't compose the majority of the library! Plus, there actually are a ton of orchestral instruments in the songs themselves, like the choirs in "Freeza Begs" and "Majin Buu", or stringed instruments, things that certainly aren't "rock".

I mean, I guess if I had to boil the score down to one style, it'd be "techno" since techno instruments seem to be what the score uses the most consistently, but even there, you'll find many songs that don't have any techno in them, like "SSJ Transformation", "Sad Theme", "Guru's Theme", "Freeza Dies", "A Little Help From a Friend", "Majin Buu", and others. Granted, most of those songs seem to be from the Freeza Arc, and the show did seem to put more and more techno in the score (with the most prominent being the tail end of the Buu arc), but the point is, the Team Faulconer score isn't one that you can really boil down to just one specific style.

I mean really, it's so frustrating ...

I'm with you on this. people say Faulconer's music doesn't go with DB at all, while I disagree. Sure, some scenes have unfitting music, but so does Kikuchi sometimes too.

Don't get me wrong i love Kikuchi for DB and even early DBZ, but once Team Faulconer's music comes in I switch to that.
Plenty of scenes are made 10x better with the Faulconer score for me. at the same time, even as a dub fan I wouldn't want Faulconer's music on the original DB dub.

but yeah you have things like Earth Theme and New Earth Theme which I honestly can't think of what genre they'd be, definitely not rock or techno. But then you have the recap/closing among others which you listed which are rock. So yeah it's pretty hard to put it into one genre, like you said.

[linkdude20002001]

The original version is the Japanese audio it's not a "dub", that's the term you'd use for an international dub not the original source.

The word "dub" can also mean "to add (music, speech, etc.) to a film or tape recording", which is how most of Japan's animated shows are done (animate, THEN record the dialogue and dub it in), whereas in the United States at least, the voices are recorded first and then animated afterwards.