With Battle of the Gods probably being canon, and the Jaco series, to an extent, providing more and more substance and expansion to DB's universe, where or how do you think Dragonball were to be followed if the series were to be canonically continued? What plot twists and turns would you envision occurring? Possible villains or problems that threaten Earth and/ or galaxies/ the universe itself? New adventures? Character developments? Perhaps some elements of Dragonball online would happen, maybe? New characters? I hope you get the gist. I'm curious what everyone thinks.
This isn't asking if you think this will actually happen.
What direction do you think the series could/ will go in?
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It's completely stunned me how Toriyama managed to up the ante every time he has to create a new enemy, and I loved that Buu was as overpowered as he was because thematically, that's a great final villain for what the series had evolved into. But then Battle of Gods shows up, and it's taken even further than Buu, and it works. It completely should not work, but it does.
My impression is that if anything goes forward, we'll be digging deeper into the God hierarchy. We are (thank God) done with space.
My impression is that if anything goes forward, we'll be digging deeper into the God hierarchy. We are (thank God) done with space.
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In terms of any Toriyama-led expansion on the franchise, I think it's safe to say that we should expect more light-hearted capers than dramatic, action-heavy thrillers - given that all recent indications from the guy show that he genuinely has no interest in writing the latter anymore, and that his distaste for the style stems from his experiences of writing the Buu arc.
So yeah - expect fun little jaunts with plenty of gags and uplifting, happy endings.
So yeah - expect fun little jaunts with plenty of gags and uplifting, happy endings.
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Are we? I mean, we are done with the 7th Universe's space, but there are 11 more now.B wrote:We are (thank God) done with space.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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And yeah, sorry to sound like I'm ganging up on this point given that the above poster has specifically referred to it too, but what's wrong with space?B wrote:We are (thank God) done with space.
Personally I'd like to see more of the Dragon Universe, and I'd like a story that, for once, doesn't strictly only threaten the Earth or revolve around its fate. Even the events on Namek were specifically tied to the fate of the Earth, as Goku and co. only went there to begin with to restore Earth's Dragonballs. After Goku challenged Freeza, it was more or a less a given that had Freeza not lost the fight, he would have destroyed Earth anyway as vengeance - heck, even when revived from the brink of death, it was top of his to-do list.
Why do the bad guys always have to come to Earth? Why does the fate of the Earth have to be the primary concern of a plot? Vegeta and Goku are always looking to test their power - wouldn't it make sense that at some point they'd want to go out into the wild green yonder to find guys tougher than them, instead of live out their lives on Earth waiting for something to happen?
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Wasn't the Earthquake in Japan responsible for change of tone in this movie.Blade wrote:In terms of any Toriyama-led expansion on the franchise, I think it's safe to say that we should expect more light-hearted capers than dramatic, action-heavy thrillers - given that all recent indications from the guy show that he genuinely has no interest in writing the latter anymore, and that his distaste for the style stems from his experiences of writing the Buu arc.
So yeah - expect fun little jaunts with plenty of gags and uplifting, happy endings.
if Toei wants to milk the franchise more, wouldn't they be dictating the terms?
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It seems expected for them to go the whole multiverse route and fight other Gods of Destruction.
But I'd personally like to see them redo GT. Keep the core plot elements in tact, only have more Toriyama adding his personal touch, and making it more coherent with the rest of the series. That's not really likely though.
But I'd personally like to see them redo GT. Keep the core plot elements in tact, only have more Toriyama adding his personal touch, and making it more coherent with the rest of the series. That's not really likely though.
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I completely agree.Zephyr wrote:But I'd personally like to see them redo GT. Keep the core plot elements in tact, only have more Toriyama adding his personal touch, and making it more coherent with the rest of the series. That's not really likely though.
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Why do something new then remake something we seen before? GT is a thing of the past.
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There's nothing inherently wrong with it, but 10 of the of the 13 Z films are "go to space and fight an overpowered enemy" or "overpowered enemey comes from space to Earth." Toei has sort of lost all of my hopes of doing anything interesting with the concept.Blade wrote:And yeah, sorry to sound like I'm ganging up on this point given that the above poster has specifically referred to it too, but what's wrong with space?
Honestly, their best attempt was the first arc of GT.
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Everyone keeps saying that, but I just don't see it. Why fight other Hakaishin? Not only they have nothing to do with Earth, since it's not in their area, but they are not even evil. Beerus wasn't evil, he was just an asshole.Zephyr wrote:It seems expected for them to go the whole multiverse route and fight other Gods of Destruction.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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It would be a long shot, but the Shadow Dragons as the final hurrah.
I wouldn't be surprised if Heroes Victory Mission becomes a mini series.
and Dragonball Online adapted to manga/anime, I think would be likely too.
I wouldn't be surprised if Heroes Victory Mission becomes a mini series.
and Dragonball Online adapted to manga/anime, I think would be likely too.
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In the way that it made Toriyama actively veto many of the darker elements of the original script, yes - but in general, he's stated many times recently that he has no interest in writing heavy or action packed material anymore. I can think of at least two recent examples of this that pertain to Jaco and Dragonball Minus.Mr.Judge wrote:Wasn't the Earthquake in Japan responsible for change of tone in this movie.
Yes and no. Toei knows the value of having the name of the 'original author' on the poster of their theatrical animated ventures. The sales figures for Battle of Gods, One Piece: Strong World and Film Z vindicate this approach, and as such, they'll take Toriyama's input wherever possible in any future venture, as to solidify the impression that he's heavily involved in the work.Mr.Judge wrote:if Toei wants to milk the franchise more, wouldn't they be dictating the terms?
It's also worth noting that Toei don't really produce filler material for One Piece anymore, which stems from the same strategy.
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Well in terms of logical progression, where else would they go if they were to continue the story? I'd certainly like them to do some kind of adventure story, but I don't see that happening without it seeming incredibly contrived like the Dragon Ball hunt in space was in GT (unless the other Hakaishin were using intense magical trickery to keep the super warriors on their toes in the midst of a multi-versal adventure of some kind).DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Everyone keeps saying that, but I just don't see it. Why fight other Hakaishin? Not only they have nothing to do with Earth, since it's not in their area, but they are not even evil. Beerus wasn't evil, he was just an asshole.Zephyr wrote:It seems expected for them to go the whole multiverse route and fight other Gods of Destruction.
And if they don't do an adventure story, it'd have to be a fighting story, which would be forced to go with the logical progression. Given them seemingly setting something up with the nod to the other universes, this seems more likely. Granted, lots of things Toriyama's thrown at us lately have come up to absolutely nothing (read: Makaioshin). But then, most of that kind of pointless info was from Guidebooks and interviews, and Battle of Gods is neither, so I guess time will tell.
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The possibilities of villains are now endless. We may see aliens, artificial humans, magical beings, monsters, demons, gods, and whatever else can be, and they can all be stronger than even Whis. But why limit it to just Hakaishin? Yeah, we learned that there are more, but there can also be much more types of strong villains now.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Well with 12 univereses the possibilities are endless... And thinking about 12 gods alone is more than enough... And there is still Whis.
But to be honest... Personally I would love to see Broly appearing once again... But this time with a common mind.
On top of that, if Bardock story is seen as non canon, I would love to see some backstory of the first Super Saiyan... Maybe he could be one of the Gods of Destruction of the other universes
And something that will kick GT out of the discussion forever in terms of "canon"...
But to be honest... Personally I would love to see Broly appearing once again... But this time with a common mind.
On top of that, if Bardock story is seen as non canon, I would love to see some backstory of the first Super Saiyan... Maybe he could be one of the Gods of Destruction of the other universes
And something that will kick GT out of the discussion forever in terms of "canon"...
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It will not go into any direction at all. It gets maybe a few new movies but not too much to show new dimensions like that of a main adventure in which we need to think about the direction of a series. And that comes from someone who wants a sequel.
With Toei? Maybe. With Akira Toriyama? No. Not that much. I am fine with Toei, though. Still much for the series will probably not be made.
With Toei? Maybe. With Akira Toriyama? No. Not that much. I am fine with Toei, though. Still much for the series will probably not be made.
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Re: What direction do you think the series could/ will go in
Why are we still bringing up canon on here when it's been established that DB has no canon? That it's all up to the fan in the end to determine what is or isn't?Legendary Saiya-Jin wrote:With Battle of the Gods probably being canon, and the Jaco series, to an extent, providing more and more substance and expansion to DB's universe, where or how do you think Dragonball were to be followed if the series were to be canonically continued? What plot twists and turns would you envision occurring? Possible villains or problems that threaten Earth and/ or galaxies/ the universe itself? New adventures? Character developments? Perhaps some elements of Dragonball online would happen, maybe? New characters? I hope you get the gist. I'm curious what everyone thinks.
This isn't asking if you think this will actually happen.
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Have Akira Toriyama keep on working on new movies and manga spin offs. If Toei does their own thing again then get ready for Broli 2.0 again.
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Anyway it's pretty obvious that they would have to go the multiverse route. It'd be ridiculous to bring in another evil character out of the blue who could be a match for Goku at this point. There should be nobody in the universe who is strong enough because they'd sense him, there's nobody in the demon realm, they've had characters who've awakened after years of hibernation etc.
I'm thinking they could have a movie where in Universe #4 the Gods of Destruction there has gone with mad with power and is destroying too many planets at too fast a pace that he's threatening the balance of the universe.
The Supreme Kai's gather the strongest warriors in Universe #4 in an attempt to stop him but all of them except one get killed. The surviving character in order to save his universe travels to the main Universe #7 and thinking that Goku might be strong enough due to his God powers brings him along with Vegeta and some others back to Universe #4 in order to stop him and save the universe.
I'm thinking they could have a movie where in Universe #4 the Gods of Destruction there has gone with mad with power and is destroying too many planets at too fast a pace that he's threatening the balance of the universe.
The Supreme Kai's gather the strongest warriors in Universe #4 in an attempt to stop him but all of them except one get killed. The surviving character in order to save his universe travels to the main Universe #7 and thinking that Goku might be strong enough due to his God powers brings him along with Vegeta and some others back to Universe #4 in order to stop him and save the universe.