Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

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Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:14 am

After the Cell Games. Is there any statement about that in the manga?
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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by Hitiro » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:33 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:After the Cell Games. Is there any statement about that in the manga?
I don't recall there being anything. I would have assumed from his personality that he did. I also felt like that with Kuririn. But it's possible he didn't at the same time. Though if he did continue to do martial arts I don't see him with the drive to become much stronger due to the Saiyan's being so absurdly strong. It would douse anybodies hopes to become stronger considering such a stark difference between you and the best. Probably killed a lot of his motivation.

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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by Kid Buu » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:47 am

Actually, I think Krillin is stated to have stopped training when Gohan first meets him in the Buu Saga.
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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by Hitiro » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:12 am

Kid Buu wrote:Actually, I think Krillin is stated to have stopped training when Gohan first meets him in the Buu Saga.
It is? I assumed he still kept it up despite my feeling he stopped considering he entered the martial arts tournament as well and proceeded to go with Goku and the gang to Babidi's spaceship. But I guess that means nothing really as he would be unlikely to win in the tournament or be of much help ad Babidi's spaceship.

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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by Kid Buu » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:50 am

Actually, I just looked at the Strength Checker:

7. Kuririn [#BO1#KUR]
Chapter: 426 (DBZ 232), P8.3
Gohan: “This is Kuririn. He no longer fights, so he stopped shaving his head.”

Just says he doesn't fight. No indication he stopped training either.
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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by Hitiro » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:15 am

Kid Buu wrote:Actually, I just looked at the Strength Checker:

7. Kuririn [#BO1#KUR]
Chapter: 426 (DBZ 232), P8.3
Gohan: “This is Kuririn. He no longer fights, so he stopped shaving his head.”

Just says he doesn't fight. No indication he stopped training either.
Yeah, though this could also be taken as he doesn't train either. It's a bit vague really as saying he no longer fights really means nothing if there is nothing to fight. I mean who was he supposed to fight in the 7 years? There were no villains. It could also mean that he realises how weak he is so there is no point in him fighting any more. But I guess anybody can have their own opinion of what that line actually means.

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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:22 am

I would assume that he stopped training too (Kuririn I mean), at least in a hardcore way. He may do occasional jumping around, punching the air, yadda yadda, sessions just to keep fit, but he'd likely not done anything near as strenuous as training with #18 until they were preparing for the tournament. Kind of a shame too, you'd have thought he'd wanted to show Marron some moves.

As for Yamcha...pretty much the same thing really. He likely does a few back flips and so on just to stay in shape, but he probably never did do anything super-intense ever again. Tenshinhan is the only one that probably continually kept pushing himself to get stronger and stronger.
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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by mAcChaos » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:09 pm

Well, it's unlikely that they would make any meaningful gains, and all the humans are already plenty strong in the first place. So what would be the point of training anyway?
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Post by Jackal puFF » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:50 pm

Yamcha probably still does some casual training and working out I'm sure. I think Master Roshi seems to be the only one to entirely stop.

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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by B » Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:06 pm

There's a line in the dub where Yamcha, voiced by Chris Sabat, clearly says "I gave up fighting." If anyone can find the manga and/or Japanese episode equivalent...
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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:36 pm

As far as I know, he never says that he gave up fighting. When Chichi asks if he would be competing in the Budoukai, he says something to the effect that he'd just embarrass himself, but he never explicitly says he's stopped.
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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:27 pm

Weren't both Krillin and Yamcha wearing their gis underneath their everyday clothes in BoG?
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:47 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Weren't both Krillin and Yamcha wearing their gis underneath their everyday clothes in BoG?
Yes and no. They were, but it was in the JSAT, not BoG.
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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:08 pm

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Kamiccolo9 wrote:Weren't both Krillin and Yamcha wearing their gis underneath their everyday clothes in BoG?
Yes and no. They were, but it was in the JSAT, not BoG.
Ah, ok. Thanks. I haven't watched BoG or the JSAT yet, but I remembered that being said somewhere.
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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by JackyBoi99 » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:17 am

I personally don't believe that Yamucha stopped training.
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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by Kid Buu » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:35 am

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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:23 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Actually, I just looked at the Strength Checker:

7. Kuririn [#BO1#KUR]
Chapter: 426 (DBZ 232), P8.3
Gohan: “This is Kuririn. He no longer fights, so he stopped shaving his head.”

Just says he doesn't fight. No indication he stopped training either.
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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by Kid Buu » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:04 pm

Oh. From that same link:
Having fallen too far behind Goku and the others, as well as their enemies, Yamcha stops participating in battles. He still lives in West City with Puar.
So it doesn't say he stopped training, just that stopped fighting. Interesting he still lives in West City though.
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Re: Did Yamcha retire from martial arts?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:26 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Oh. From that same link:
Having fallen too far behind Goku and the others, as well as their enemies, Yamcha stops participating in battles. He still lives in West City with Puar.
So it doesn't say he stopped training, just that stopped fighting. Interesting he still lives in West City though.
Well, it doesn't say that he stopped fighting either, only that he no longer participates in "battles," however you want to take that. I wouldn't consider the occasional tournament bout to be a "battle"; I'd say that applies more to free for alls like the fights against the Saiyans.
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