Is Colleen Really The Best English Kid Gohan Ever?

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Is Colleen Really The Best English Kid Gohan Ever?

Post by thatdbzguy » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:18 pm

I've seen it stated in a lot of places how Colleen is the best voice Gohan ever had in English, and absolutely blows Stephanie and Saffron (moreso Stephanie) out of the water. But, re-watching Kai, I just can't seem to appreciate her Gohan as much as others do.

My main problem with her voicing Gohan, I think, is that I never really feel like I'm listening to Gohan talk. Every time Gohan opens his mouth, I hear Colleen voicing him, but I don't hear him. Her acting isn't bad, and her voice does somewhat fit Gohan (I still think it's a bit too whiny/grating, even for a 5-year-old), but unlike most of the other cast and the characters they play, I never actually believe that she is Gohan.

With Stephanie, it's a completely different story. You can make fun of her acting, range, tone, and laugh all you want, but for some reason, I still always felt that she was channeling Gohan himself through her own voice and embracing the character's personality, which is a feeling I don't get from Colleen. (Mind you, I'm talking about after Stephanie got more used to her role as Gohan, not when she first started off.)

As for Saffron, I do like the actual voice she uses for Gohan, but her acting always seemed a bit off to me. Granted, I'm judging her based solely off a few clips of the Ocean dub I've seen, so I'm probably not in the right position to properly judge her voice acting.

What do you think? Is Colleen really the best English voice for Gohan ever?
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Re: Is Colleen Really The Best English Kid Gohan Ever?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:30 pm

Korean dub blows it out the water so much that the ENG dub are irrelevant

Everyone got an opinion. To me Henderson is a boring voice.Her Gohan sounds like a stereotype fat kid who's rising up to bullying. Nadonly never sounded Gohan to me. Just Someone there to voice him. Kyle Herbert sounded like TeenGohan and later adult. Collen acted good for Gohan. To me she's the perfect Gohan. Her voice reminds me of my Lil bro(anyone remember him IAmAwesome). I love when Gohan is angry. He sounds pissed for once instead of "raging little kid in Call of Duty". No one who voices Gohan in English ever got Gohan right until Collen

Though Korean Gohan just sheds her apart

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Re: Is Colleen Really The Best English Kid Gohan Ever?

Post by Valerius Dover » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:37 pm

I actually like Nadolny's Gohan. It's a distinct performance similar to Goku, but also different enough. I assume this mirrors the Japanese version. I can't judge Colleen having not seen Kai yet, but I had no real issue with her Goku in Curse of the Blood Rubies. It's probably just that it's such a huge departure from the previous voice, which is why some fans have been irked. Me, I'm open to new stuff.

Nadolny's Super Saiyan screams were totally awesome, but another aspect I really liked was Gohan's tone of voice changing when he spoke about his power. You could tell he was serious, since he had never sounded like that before. You guys know what I'm talking about right?
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Re: Is Colleen Really The Best English Kid Gohan Ever?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:43 pm

Nadolny's Super Saiyan screams were totally awesome, but another aspect I really liked was Gohan's tone of voice changing when he spoke about his power. You could tell he was serious, since he had never sounded like that before. You guys know what I'm talking about right
Her SSJ2 SCREAMS was bad. Gohan screamed twice because Nadlony couldn't do one long scream. Then the next episode she stutter he screams and we got 6 different screams in one scene. Her Gohan always sounded"serious" to me

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Re: Is Colleen Really The Best English Kid Gohan Ever?

Post by WittyUsername » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:53 pm

In my opinion, neither Nadolny nor Clinkenbeard are definitively better than the other. They both have their pros and cons to me but I don't think either of them sound like a realistic little boy.

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Re: Is Colleen Really The Best English Kid Gohan Ever?

Post by Valerius Dover » Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:53 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
Nadolny's Super Saiyan screams were totally awesome, but another aspect I really liked was Gohan's tone of voice changing when he spoke about his power. You could tell he was serious, since he had never sounded like that before. You guys know what I'm talking about right
Her SSJ2 SCREAMS was bad. Gohan screamed twice because Nadlony couldn't do one long scream. Then the next episode she stutter he screams and we got 6 different screams in one scene. Her Gohan always sounded"serious" to me
Well, to each his own. I'm looking forward to seeing Kai and hearing Colleen's performance, though.
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Re: Is Colleen Really The Best English Kid Gohan Ever?

Post by qjz123 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:20 am

I think Colleen Clinkenbeard's Gohan is much more natural sounding. I cringe whenever Nadolny tries to force a laugh as Gohan. Colleen's performance is much more natural in this scene for example http://youtu.be/P7P6ifM5PrI?t=8m52s vs Nadolny http://youtu.be/h3RV6Y8BjL8?t=3m50s. Another thing about Colleen's Gohan is that her voice actually ages as her character ages for example Colleen at the start of the series http://youtu.be/CIferoiX4hg?t=7m14s then her voice during the Freeza saga gets deeper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3SHydb3fFo then her voice post ROSAT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7P6ifM5 ... be&t=8m52s . Whereas Nadolny's voice barely changes from the start of the series to the cell games. Nadolny at the start of the series http://youtu.be/LFqXzj7kxAo?t=13m55s then post ROSAT http://youtu.be/h3RV6Y8BjL8?t=3m50s .
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Post by ultimateemail5000 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:10 am

I honestly thought Colleen was great for kid Gohan, and would have really liked to have heard Nadolny voice Gohan when he and Goku were done training in the Time Chamber. It would have just made sense that way because he would be going through puberty and voice changing. Just my thoughts.

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Re: Is Colleen Really The Best English Kid Gohan Ever?

Post by Black_Liger » Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:56 pm

My only problem with Clickenbeard is that her shouts are a little bit too much high pitched. But not so frustrating.

My problem with Naldony is that sometimes she sounds really bad and doesn't act so very well. She definitely fits gohan from cell saga, but it's too unreal for 4 year old gohan to have her deep voice. But who am i to judge when japanese Goku has the most high pitched voice in the story of anime and voice acting while being a full grown buffed up martial artist XD
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Re: Is Colleen Really The Best English Kid Gohan Ever?

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 6:18 pm

While Clinkenbeard's Gohan can be a tad shrill at times, and isn't necessarily a "realistic" boy voice (neither was Nadolny), her delivery is, in my eyes, the best English performance of Gohan. She nails the emotion, and the character's development. Henderson has the right voice, but not quite the same range, and Nadolny is very flat and unrealistic, and never really developed.
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Re: Is Colleen Really The Best English Kid Gohan Ever?

Post by JackyBoi99 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 11:55 pm

Every time I listen to Colleen, I am completely unconvinced that she is trying to voice a boy. Her gohan just sounds like a whiny teenage girl...can't stand her.
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Re: Is Colleen Really The Best English Kid Gohan Ever?

Post by Metalwario64 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:24 am

JackyBoi99 wrote:Every time I listen to Colleen, I am completely unconvinced that she is trying to voice a boy. Her gohan just sounds like a whiny teenage girl...can't stand her.
I've never heard a teenage girl that sounds like Clinkenbeard's Gohan... I don't understand that complaint.

That's more Vollmer's earlier, valley girl Bulma.
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Re: Is Colleen Really The Best English Kid Gohan Ever?

Post by JackyBoi99 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:46 am

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JackyBoi99 wrote:Every time I listen to Colleen, I am completely unconvinced that she is trying to voice a boy. Her gohan just sounds like a whiny teenage girl...can't stand her.
I've never heard a teenage girl that sounds like Clinkenbeard's Gohan... I don't understand that complaint.

That's more Vollmer's earlier, valley girl Bulma.
Ok fair enough that you haven't heard a girl sound like Clinkenbeard's gohan, however for me when I close my eyes and just listen to her gohan voice it does not sound like a boy at all.

Also I have actually heard a teenage girl that sounds like Clinkenbeard's gohan, except this girl had an Aussie accent. Honest to kami truth.
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Re: Is Colleen Really The Best English Kid Gohan Ever?

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:51 am

My little brother sounded like Collen Gohan....
Thank gosh his voice is getting slightly deeper.

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JackyBoi99 wrote:
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JackyBoi99 wrote:Every time I listen to Colleen, I am completely unconvinced that she is trying to voice a boy. Her gohan just sounds like a whiny teenage girl...can't stand her.
I've never heard a teenage girl that sounds like Clinkenbeard's Gohan... I don't understand that complaint.

That's more Vollmer's earlier, valley girl Bulma.
Ok fair enough that you haven't heard a girl sound like Clinkenbeard's gohan, however for me when I close my eyes and just listen to her gohan voice it does not sound like a boy at all.

Also I have actually heard a teenage girl that sounds like Clinkenbeard's gohan, except this girl had an Aussie accent. Honest to kami truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7P6ifM ... be&t=8m52s Doesn't sound like a Teenage girl to me. Also at this point in the story Gohan is about 11 years old so he isn't a teenager yet.
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Post by ABED » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:30 am

We completely disagree, unlike Nadolny, Colleen can act. I don't get what you find grating because she doesn't have the raspy high pitched piercing nails on a chalkboard screams that Nadolny has. Also, Colleen can act. I still can't for the life of me understand why anyone like's Nadolny's Goku. It's even worse than her Gohan.

Can anyone point to a time when Colleen was shrill? Better yet, can you point to a time when she was shrill and Nadolny wasn't way worse?
Her Gohan sounds like a stereotype fat kid who's rising up to bullying.
Huh?

I still like Saffron the best, it's the most naturally child like and she's a terrific actress. It's one step below Nozawa.
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ABED wrote:We completely disagree, unlike Nadolny, Colleen can act. I don't get what you find grating because she doesn't have the raspy high pitched piercing nails on a chalkboard screams that Nadolny has. Also, Colleen can act. I still can't for the life of me understand why anyone like's Nadolny's Goku. It's even worse than her Gohan.

Can anyone point to a time when Colleen was shrill? Better yet, can you point to a time when she was shrill and Nadolny wasn't way worse?
Her Gohan sounds like a stereotype fat kid who's rising up to bullying.
Huh?

I still like Saffron the best, it's the most naturally child like and she's a terrific actress. It's one step below Nozawa.
It's just a matter of opinion if someone likes Nadolny's Goku. I'm neutral to both Clinkenbeard and Nadolny's Gohans but I do like Nadolny's Goku since I think it fits the wild, goofball side of him.

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Post by JackyBoi99 » Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:15 am

For anyone who is thinking that I'm defending Naldolny, I'm not; her gohan is also really bad in my opinion.
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Post by ABED » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:21 am

It's just a matter of opinion if someone likes Nadolny's Goku. I'm neutral to both Clinkenbeard and Nadolny's Gohans but I do like Nadolny's Goku since I think it fits the wild, goofball side of him.
Doesn't mean I have to understand why. I don't understand how anyone comes away from Nadolny's performances thinking anything other than they're awful and her Gohan and especially Goku voices are grating. That Woody Woodpecker/Krusty laugh is hokey and intolerable.
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Post by WittyUsername » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:30 am

It's alright, you don't really need to understand why some people might like Nadolny's performance, there will always be people that have different opinions on things like voice acting. Many people don't exactly find Clinkenbeard's Gohan easy on the ears either, but that's not really a big deal for me since Gohan can easily be viewed as an annoying character. As great as Nozawa is, even she can sometimes be a little grating in my opinion. As I said before, I'm neutral to both Nadolny and Clinkenbeard as Gohan, but I think they both get the job done.

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