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SSJ God Time Limit

Post by Daniel Vincere » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:00 pm

So Super Saiyan God has a 5 minute time limit right? Based on that, it seems like it doesn't run on the user's own energy (though I could be wrong). If that's true, then what would happen if the user was completely exhausted. Would they fall out of SSJ God or still be in it, just extremely tired? Or could it be that SSJ God runs on a completely different reserve of energy that depletes after 5 minutes, no matter what?

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Re: SSJ God Time Limit

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:33 pm

Pretty sure there's nothing that says the form only lasts 5 minutes (and making one would have been kinda dumb in retrospect). The best you can do is make a guess based on how long the transformation lasts in the film itself, but even then, we don't know what determines the time limit and then there's the fact that the Special Edition extends the time of the transformation by about two minutes anyway.
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Re: SSJ God Time Limit

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:16 pm

It's further complicated by the fact that certain parts of the fight are clearly in slow motion (like the water in the underground cave)
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Re: SSJ God Time Limit

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:06 pm

Just go by screen time.
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Re: SSJ God Time Limit

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:46 am

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Just go by screen time.
Yeah, but like I said, what about the parts of the fight that were slowed down?
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Re: SSJ God Time Limit

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:46 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Just go by screen time.
Yeah, but like I said, what about the parts of the fight that were slowed down?
Even then. As long as he looks like this

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Re: SSJ God Time Limit

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:54 pm

How would screen time be accurate? Ssj3 even in the manga felt like it lasted a long time. I'm willing to say we can average it out. 10 minutes seems good to me because the original SSG couldt beat the entire race in 10 minutes

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Re: SSJ God Time Limit

Post by Low Tone G » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:10 pm

For me the time-limit meant that the user will cease to be a God after a certain short period of time, in other words he doesn't run of Godly energy because he over used it, but the state itself has an availability, so even if a saiyan doesn't fight at all, the form will disappear in any case. Remember that Goku didn't get tired fighting with Beerus, so his the form is very stable in my view and does not put significant strain on body. The difference between the Original Saiyan God and Goku was that Goku was able to integrate the state for long time/forever.
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Re: SSJ God Time Limit

Post by Hugo Boss » Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:24 am

I would say 1 minute in DB terms. He only attained most of SSJ God's power because he was fighting Beerus.

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Re: SSJ God Time Limit

Post by flashback0180 » Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:17 pm

There is no time limit mentioned , All you can make are just assumptions even goku didn't know he was not in SSJG mode till berus told him.

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Re: SSJ God Time Limit

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:24 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:How would screen time be accurate? Ssj3 even in the manga felt like it lasted a long time. I'm willing to say we can average it out. 10 minutes seems good to me because the original SSG couldt beat the entire race in 10 minutes
Goku is a SSGod for around 7 minutes going by screen time. However, the fight scenes are shown in slow-motion rather than real-time speed, so it's much less than 7 minutes.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: SSJ God Time Limit

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:11 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:How would screen time be accurate? Ssj3 even in the manga felt like it lasted a long time. I'm willing to say we can average it out. 10 minutes seems good to me because the original SSG couldt beat the entire race in 10 minutes
Goku is a SSGod for around 7 minutes going by screen time. However, the fight scenes are shown in slow-motion rather than real-time speed, so it's much less than 7 minutes.
I suppose if you really wanted to know this, you could measure how fast the rocks were falling underground, then compare that to how fast they would actually fall at normal speed, and do a bunch of math to figure out how much time actually passed.

But that seems pointless and a huge amount of work over something so silly, if you ask me.
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Re: SSJ God Time Limit

Post by GTx10 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:36 pm

Maybe the form's time limit is based on the user's own abilities. After all, a normal Saiyan in God form came close to wiping out his evil counterparts before it ran out. So a lone warrior nearly beating his entire evil race (who I'm sure went Great Ape on him, because if they didn't...Ya that would be dumb) VS one Saiyan (who can access all of Z era's Super Saiyan forms) VS a near all powerful god faced way different challenges. Thus the form based its time limit off its situation. I believe that "God-Kun" used more energy against Beerus so his time went out faster. Similar to Fusion, while the original SS God may have lasted longer.
How can a lone SSG VS a race last longer than Son VS Beerus? When I'm sure the original SS God took out normal Saiyans with one punch or kick. Beerus is not a one hit kill type of guy. The Great Ape's gave the original SS God trouble I'm sure, but this is all speculation on my part.
In short: However long Goku lasted in the form in the Extended movie is probably its time limit.
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Re: SSJ God Time Limit

Post by Barunks » Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:29 pm

Regardless from such a small amount of time it sounds like they would have been better off just fusing into Gogeta instead. I hear it was said that in the extended cut Goku doubted fusion would be very effective, but he has been wrong before and (especially after Vegeta randomly having a new hidden power for some reason) plus I'd just like to see Gogeta actually break a sweat for once.

The fact that Goku was able to keep some of that god power is interesting though. Could it be possible to become a super saiyan god at will and extend the time limit through training?

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Re: SSJ God Time Limit

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:23 pm

Barunks wrote:The fact that Goku was able to keep some of that god power is interesting though. Could it be possible to become a super saiyan god at will and extend the time limit through training?
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