I've always wondered if this was SSJ2

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I've always wondered if this was SSJ2

Post by IGhostUlt » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:03 pm

Is this picture of goku ssj 1 or 2?

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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by mcdonough88 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:17 pm

Super Saiyajin 2

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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by DarkPrince_92 » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:29 pm

One side of his head (the bangs I mean) looks like SSJ and the other SSJ2. Not really sure.
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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by IGhostUlt » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:34 pm

Yeah its really confusing i would say ssj 2 because the hair looks spikier, but the bangs look questionable

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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by Daimakku » Fri Aug 08, 2014 12:03 am

SSJ2 has spikier/sharper hair than SSJ1, so I'd say 2. Another way to spot the SSJ2 form is if there's lightning surrounding the character's aura. But then again, in the new Bardock special they added lightning around SSJ1 Bardock so I don't know if that's a reliable way to tell anymore.

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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by sintzu » Fri Aug 08, 2014 1:10 am

The problem with the anime is that they draw both ssj/2 the same way so there's really no way to know

In my opinion the only time Goku and Vegeta used ssj1 in the Buu arc was inside of Buu
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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by SSJ God Gogeta » Fri Aug 08, 2014 5:57 am

I want to say ssj2 but I don't know. Last time I checked which was a few hours ago when I went to go see BOG ssj2 does not have that middle bang. Also for some reason both ssj2 goku and vegeta did not have a lighting Aura only when goku went ssj3 he had the lighting aura.
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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by Low Tone G » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:15 am

I'd say it's not even Goku, it's the potara fusion of Gohan and Goku: Gokhan, or something. MAybe the potara isn't accidental.
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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by sintzu » Fri Aug 08, 2014 6:46 am

Low Tone G wrote:I'd say it's not even Goku.
It is

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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:09 am

He has too many bangs for him to be a Super Saiyan 2.

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He is a normal Super Saiyan.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by sintzu » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:20 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:He has too many bangs for him to be a Super Saiyan 2.

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He is a normal Super Saiyan.
If it was from the manga then yes but the anime is a different story

Take the Goku/Majin Vegeta fight for example,In the first part they were drawn as ssj2's but in the second part as ssj1's then in the 3rd part back to ssj2's
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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:38 am

sintzu wrote:If it was from the manga then yes but the anime is a different story

Take the Goku/Majin Vegeta fight for example,In the first part they were drawn as ssj2's but in the second part as ssj1's then in the 3rd part back to ssj2's
That was an animation error.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by sintzu » Fri Aug 08, 2014 7:52 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:That was an animation error.
An animation error that goes on for 13 minutes ? Not likely
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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by shinmaru » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:05 am

sintzu wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:That was an animation error.
An animation error that goes on for 13 minutes ? Not likely
It's ssj2, but in the anime it's confusing after the Majin Bejita vs SonGoku fight.

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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:06 am

sintzu wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:That was an animation error.
An animation error that goes on for 13 minutes ? Not likely
Then what do you want to say, that Goku's SS2 hairstyle is shapeshifting? Even less likely.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by DarkPrince_92 » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:38 am

Considering it was Studio Live (THE WORST)... I think it's safe to say, they just dropped the ball with the SSJ2 hairstyle, because every other studio got it right the first time. Last house messed up a few times too. I wouldn't go solely on the animation.
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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by Cetra » Fri Aug 08, 2014 8:59 am

It is a bit difficult but it looks more like a Super-Saiyajin 2. And hair can move as well.
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Re: I've always wondered if this was SSJ2

Post by Vijay » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:01 am

Super Saiyan 2 for sure. Noticed how Toriyama's art (in the manga) gives a sharp, edged facial look compared to the more calm, relaxed SSJ.

The picture shows Goku's face quite similar to Goku demonstrating SSJ2 stage to Fat Buu.

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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by sintzu » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:02 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
sintzu wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:That was an animation error.
An animation error that goes on for 13 minutes ? Not likely
Then what do you want to say ?
That the people who draw the anime don't care to show the differences between the 2 forms
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Re: I've always wondered is this was ssj 2

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Aug 08, 2014 11:08 am

sintzu wrote:That the people who draw the anime don't care to show the differences between the 2 forms
Which is why there was this inconsistency.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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