Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

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Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by Hujio » Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:27 pm

General Discussion for Dragon Ball Kai episode 123, aired 28 September 2014

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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by ShinGaijin » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:34 pm

Good episode, but the pace has clearly slowed, so it was a little bit booooring :think: ... Shino Kakinuma's performance was very convincing, when Videl learned about Gohan's "death".
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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:16 am

This is really 1:1 to Z. It's ridiculous.
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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by Black_Liger » Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:55 am

Even though I can stand the pacing (it's still faster) this is one of the parts of buu saga that I didn't like so much. XD I'm just waiting for Goku to go ssj3.
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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by Shnuki » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:01 am

And they're gonna leave in that little fight between Popo and the kids? Wow. Only the upcoming good English dub keeps me interested in Kai, because for the Japanese side of things, as of now, Z seems to be superior.

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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by Puto » Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:58 am

Complaints about pacing aside, this is the episode where everyone seems to have had the idiot ball shoved onto them. Why does everybody still think that Gohan is dead when they just asked Shenlong to bring back everyone who died that day?! I can understand thinking that Gohan died, but after that wish, they shouldn't still be thinking he's dead!
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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by Cold Skin » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:01 am

^ This is because they trust their perception of auras above all. To them, if Gohan was alive, they would feel his aura, period.
And this is precisely what Goku will tell Videl when she says she believes that Gohan still lives, something like: "nah-uh, sorry to break it to you, but no aura, zero chance he's still alive, that's pretty much it, nothing to discuss here. But that would have been nice."

Even if they thought the wish would ressurect him, they would go: "oh, but we still can't sense his aura. Somehow it didn't work for him, he's dead." much like when they tried to ressurect Cell's victims and Goku wasn't part of it, it was immediately: "can't sense his aura, so he's dead and the wish didn't work for him".

Perceiving auras is the way they instantly make definitive conclusions, no need for them to think further than "aura state = this, so person state = that", regardless of why it could possibly be that way or not.

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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by JEFFMAN219 » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:17 am

Wow did the pacing really get worse with the last 3 episodes?

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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:20 am

JEFFMAN219 wrote:Wow did the pacing really get worse with the last 3 episodes?
While the pacing may be slow for what Kai is supposed to do it isn't bad, like, compare the pacing of the Majin Boo arc to the Great Saiyaman arc and you'll see that Boo's arc got it far better. The Saiyaman arc for the Japanese cut was bloody awful.
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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by coola » Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:13 pm

Popo vs SSJ Goten and Trunks is still there? And that green tint, are they even trying? It's like "We don't care, just finish this, and move on" I'm sorry, but at this point, not even English dub will save it for me. I'd rather watch GT than this unholy piece of animation (Borrowed from Somecallmejohnny)
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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by sintzu » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:05 am

coola wrote:Popo vs SSJ Goten and Trunks is still there? And that green tint, are they even trying? It's like "We don't care, just finish this, and move on" I'm sorry, but at this point, not even English dub will save it for me. I'd rather watch GT than this unholy piece of animation (Borrowed from Somecallmejohnny)
Is the Green tint part of the remastering ? cause with BOG some countries got the movie with the same tint while others like NA didn't so if it's not then there's still a chance Funi will remove it.
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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:39 am

sintzu wrote:Is the green tint part of the remastering? Because with BoG some countries got the movie with the same tint while others like NA didn't so if it's not then there's still a chance Funi will remove it.
I don't know why people are expecting FUNimation to remove it if anything they'll increase the brightness and use English text cards only (well, the International version is already in English so this time it's not exactly their fault).
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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by sintzu » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:03 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:
I don't know why people are expecting FUNimation to remove it.
Because BOG didn't have it in their release while other releases did.
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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:09 am

sintzu wrote:Because BOG didn't have it in their release while other releases did.
Wait, what? There's no green tint on any foreign Battle of Gods release that I've seen (which is the Hong Kong and Mexican versions).
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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by UltimateHammerBro » Mon Sep 29, 2014 11:22 am

VegettoEX wrote:
sintzu wrote:Because BOG didn't have it in their release while other releases did.
Wait, what? There's no green tint on any foreign Battle of Gods release that I've seen (which is the Hong Kong and Mexican versions).
I can confirm that the Spanish release doesn't have it either. I had previously watched the movie in Japanese (I don't know the source though) and there wasn't green tint.
However, I do remember seeing some kind of image comparison which showed how there was a slight green tint, although it wasn't as bad as in Kai.
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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by Freeza Soldier #156 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:17 pm

Did anyone else notice that Dr. Briefs wasn't played by Joji Yanami this episode? I know he gave up his role as Babidi, but any thoughts on why he decided to give up Dr. Briefs after already reprising the role in the previous phase of Kai?

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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:38 pm

sintzu wrote:Because BOG didn't have it in their release while other releases did.
You're comparing the Kai Majin Boo arc which is a remaster (not very good though) of a 20 year old anime series and Battle of Gods is a newly produce anime film, so again, the green tint wouldn't be there anyway.

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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by Valerius Dover » Mon Sep 29, 2014 6:40 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote: This fixation that Kanzenshuu members have with the green tint is tiresome.
^Yeah, as an Orange Brick owner I'm not very concerned about minor details. These things can even vary depending on the TV you have. Whenever these pictures are posted it's pretty much a game of "spot the differences".
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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by coola » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:17 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:
sintzu wrote:Because BOG didn't have it in their release while other releases did.
This fixation that Kanzenshuu members have with the green tint is tiresome.
In my opinion, this green tint is very noticable, to point it even changes character hair, Cardcaptor Sakura on BD also have some green tint, but not to this extent.
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Re: Kai Episode 123 (28 September 2014)

Post by dbboxkaifan » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:23 am

Whenever the colours didn't look right to me on the HDTV for Dragon Ball I'd try to tweak them, and yeah, it ends up messing up something else but overall I was fine with it and pleased also, so this is probably what I'll do for the Final Chapters of Kai on Blu-ray.
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