Could have a fully healthy Krillin survived Tambourine?

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Could have a fully healthy Krillin survived Tambourine?

Post by Angelus » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:06 pm

It seems to be that the only reason Tambourine managed to kill Goku easily was because Goku was worn out from the tournament and have not recovered yet.

Had Krillin been at full power and fully healthy/recovered, could have Krillin survived Tambourine's attack? Can Krillin kill Tambourine without help?
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Re: Could have a fully healthy Krillin survived Tambourine?

Post by Diotor » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:32 pm

Angelus wrote:It seems to be that the only reason Tambourine managed to kill Krillin and Goku easily was because Goku and Krillin were worn out from the tournament and have not recovered yet.

Had Krillin been at full power and fully healthy/recovered, could have Krillin survived Tambourine's attack? Can Krillin kill Tambourine without help?
I believe Tambourine's power is about 340 or so, it's very unlikely Krillin could do anything but die if attacked by Tambourine.

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Re: Could have a fully healthy Krillin survived Tambourine?

Post by Angelus » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:11 pm

340? That's way too huge an estimate for Tambourine. Even during the start Z, Tien was 250 while Krillin was 209. And they're already much more powerful than their 22nd WMAT selves.

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Re: Could have a fully healthy Krillin survived Tambourine?

Post by Hitiro » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:08 pm

Well, the gaps in Dragonball were smaller than they are in DBZ but it seems that a smaller gap is equivalent to a larger one later on in the story. Goku may have only been 30 or 40 above Kuririn but the difference was very noticeable. Then again we don't know if Kuririn managed to surpass Kame-sennin at this point. So perhaps the gap was closer to 2x then I would have assumed? Another possible look at it could show that Kuririn was just caught off-guard by Tambourine. I mean he is a monster. It's very hard to discern whether Kuririn would have been powerful enough to have survived Tambourine I think. Just depends on your personal opinion. I'm pretty much on the fence as to whether Kuririn could have done something at this point in the story. That is mainly due to how little information we have in terms of their strengths though. Saiyan saga and on-wards we get a much clear picture of where the characters stand strength-wise.

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Re: Could have a fully healthy Krillin survived Tambourine?

Post by Diotor » Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:49 am

Angelus wrote:340? That's way too huge an estimate for Tambourine. Even during the start Z, Tenshinhan was 250 while Krillin was 209. And they're already much more powerful than their 22nd WMAT selves.
I got it from here: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_power_levels

So I dunno. I thought it seems overly high as well.

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Re: Could have a fully healthy Krillin survived Tambourine?

Post by dbgtFO » Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:53 am

Diotor wrote:
Angelus wrote:340? That's way too huge an estimate for Tambourine. Even during the start Z, Tenshinhan was 250 while Krillin was 209. And they're already much more powerful than their 22nd WMAT selves.
I got it from here: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_power_levels

So I dunno. I thought it seems overly high as well.
They list the source as being "movie pamphlet," which would be this one:
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Re: Could have a fully healthy Krillin survived Tambourine?

Post by Angelus » Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:06 pm

That seems very sketchy, that image. Tambourine has a higher power level than drum? Meh.

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Re: Could have a fully healthy Krillin survived Tambourine?

Post by Cetra » Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:25 pm

If those are powerlevels they are from a completely different system meaning Kuririn has different numbers and Goku as well. Those are not part of the powerlevel system introduced in Z. They don't fit at all. And so we can't even compete Kuririn and Goku with them without the numbers for them in this system.

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Re: Could have a fully healthy Krillin survived Tambourine?

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:16 pm

dbgtFO wrote:
Diotor wrote:
Angelus wrote:340? That's way too huge an estimate for Tambourine. Even during the start Z, Tenshinhan was 250 while Krillin was 209. And they're already much more powerful than their 22nd WMAT selves.
I got it from here: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_power_levels

So I dunno. I thought it seems overly high as well.
They list the source as being "movie pamphlet," which would be this one:
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Kanzenshuu has all of it here: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/battle-power/databook/
Don't follow these levels, they are bullshit and wrong. Goku has a power level of 10 in the beginning of DB, yet Pilaf, Shuu, and Mai here have higher power levels when they're all clearly weaker than Goku. Commander Red and Adjacent Black are not superhuman at all, they should not be in the hundreds. Colonel Silver is not stronger than General Blue. Colonel Silver is fodder to Goku while General Blue wasn't complete fodder. Also Major Metallic puts up a better fight than Colonel Silver and is still lower in power here. Drum being weaker than Tambourine was already mentioned and wrong. I think all the levels are too high as well.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

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Re: Could have a fully healthy Krillin survived Tambourine?

Post by Hitiro » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:14 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Don't follow these levels, they are bullshit and wrong. Goku has a power level of 10 in the beginning of DB, yet Pilaf, Shuu, and Mai here have higher power levels when they're all clearly weaker than Goku. Commander Red and Adjacent Black are not superhuman at all, they should not be in the hundreds. Colonel Silver is not stronger than General Blue. Colonel Silver is fodder to Goku while General Blue wasn't complete fodder. Also Major Metallic puts up a better fight than Colonel Silver and is still lower in power here. Drum being weaker than Tambourine was already mentioned and wrong. I think all the levels are too high as well.
A big tell that this is wrong is that Piccolo Daimao is stronger than what Piccolo Jr. is shown in the beginning of the Saiyan arc. In they Saiyan arc Raditz reads Piccolo Jr. as 408 without weighted clothing. If Piccolo Daimao is 500 then Goku and Piccolo Jr. are weaker than they were previously.

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Re: Could have a fully healthy Krillin survived Tambourine?

Post by Angelus » Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:00 pm

Yeah, those power levels are wack.

Anyways back to the main topic.

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Re: Could have a fully healthy Krillin survived Tambourine?

Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:52 am

Hitiro wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Don't follow these levels, they are bullshit and wrong. Goku has a power level of 10 in the beginning of DB, yet Pilaf, Shuu, and Mai here have higher power levels when they're all clearly weaker than Goku. Commander Red and Adjacent Black are not superhuman at all, they should not be in the hundreds. Colonel Silver is not stronger than General Blue. Colonel Silver is fodder to Goku while General Blue wasn't complete fodder. Also Major Metallic puts up a better fight than Colonel Silver and is still lower in power here. Drum being weaker than Tambourine was already mentioned and wrong. I think all the levels are too high as well.
A big tell that this is wrong is that Piccolo Daimao is stronger than what Piccolo Jr. is shown in the beginning of the Saiyan arc. In they Saiyan arc Raditz reads Piccolo Jr. as 408 without weighted clothing. If Piccolo Daimao is 500 then Goku and Piccolo Jr. are weaker than they were previously.
Yeah that too, but I'd say the big tell is Pilaf, Mai, and Shuu. They have nothing on Goku and yet are rated stronger than him for no reason.
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Re: Could have a fully healthy Krillin survived Tambourine?

Post by Hitiro » Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:57 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Yeah that too, but I'd say the big tell is Pilaf, Mai, and Shuu. They have nothing on Goku and yet are rated stronger than him for no reason.
Don't they survive explosions, and the like, in the story? Could put those feats down to gag material but another way would be to make them stronger than Goku at that time. Lol. Not that I'm saying it is true. Just trying to look at why someone would place Pilaf and his gang above Goku's initial BP. Unless some people are under the belief that Goku was not 10 in the first chapter of Dragon Ball. Because I am still struggling to believe that Grandpa Gohan, who is stronger than Kame-sennin, would have had a tough time against Oozaru Goku if his BP was 10.

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