Could (Mr.) Buu beat everyone in the 28th Budokai?

[Angelus]

Aside from Goku. Goku and Uub flies off and leaves the tournament. The only real powerful ones left there are Trunks, Goten, Pan, and Vegeta. Of course, Vegeta would be more powerful than Pan, Goten and Trunks so we already know that the outcome would be a fight between Good Buu and SSJ2 Vegeta.

Given that there's no BOG canon, could have Good Buu actually beat End of Z SSJ2 Vegeta, sparing Mr. Satan to having to fight Vegeta? I mean I just can't see Vegeta intentionally losing to Mr. Satan. That's a bit out of topic but anyways main question is could Good Buu actually beat SSJ2 Vegeta during the End of Z?

[Hellspawn28]

I think he could given how he was able to hold off Kid Buu pretty well and hold up a fight better then Vegeta did. He would likely be the third strongest fighter on Earth, not counting fusions at this time.

[Doctor.]

I think Vegeta could beat him. When Goten gets Boo, Goku notes that he could have had an easier job had he trained more, while knowing that he probably couldn't reach SSJ3. Seeing as how both Vegeta and Goku are constantly portrayed as (almost) equals, I see no reason for him not to win with SSJ2 or even SSJ (since Base Goku was handling Oob quite well).

[Angelus]

Now now, let's not go into the Uub discussion because that will just lead to an offshoot conversation about people arguing about Uub's power and Goku being so powerful at base.

[Hitiro]

Considering there is a 10 year gap since the Majin Boo arc. Vegeta would have undoubtedly kept training all the way up to that point in time. Vegeta made huge gains in the 7 years prior to the Majin Boo arc to surpass Gohan and to get close enough to Goku that he only needed a unlock of his potential to catch up and be even. I don't think it should be in contention that in another 10 years of training SSJ2 Vegeta wouldn't have exceeded the level of power SSJ3 Goku demonstrated in his fight against Fat Boo. Not to mention the manga kind of hints that Mr. Boo got powered down due to his splitting with Pure Evil Boo. So Vegeta should be able to beat Mr. Boo.

[Friezacooler]

Majin Buu stomps hard, nothing can defeat Mr buu at that point not even spirit bomb.

[Kamiccolo9]

Majin Buu stomps hard, nothing can defeat Mr buu at that point not even spirit bomb.

Why not?

[Friezacooler]

Why not?[/quote]

The battle with Pure Buu proves pretty much if it isn't for being evil he would have survived the Spirit bomb. Mr Buu seems to be opposite so he would definitely deflect it. Spirit bomb hasn't been proven to be successful except on evil souls. Yeah wrongfully charged spirit bomb could blow up the planet no evidence it could erase a good hearted soul that can regenerate I guess.

[Kamiccolo9]

The battle with Pure Buu proves pretty much if it isn't for being evil he would have survived the Spirit bomb. Mr Buu seems to be opposite so he would definitely deflect it. Spirit bomb hasn't been proven to be successful except on evil souls. Yeah wrongfully charged spirit bomb could blow up the planet no evidence it could erase a good hearted soul that can regenerate I guess.

How so? With that logic, there's no evidence that the Final Flash would work on a good guy, since it was only ever used on Cell.

[Friezacooler]

How so? With that logic, there's no evidence that the Final Flash would work on a good guy, since it was only ever used on Cell.[/quote]

Atleast one of the attacks has a statement packing it, that indicates them being able to deflect it if they are pure of heart? Unless final flash had the same statement? But fair enough.

[singsing]

The battle with Pure Buu proves pretty much if it isn't for being evil he would have survived the Spirit bomb. Mr Buu seems to be opposite so he would definitely deflect it. Spirit bomb hasn't been proven to be successful except on evil souls. Yeah wrongfully charged spirit bomb could blow up the planet no evidence it could erase a good hearted soul that can regenerate I guess.

So Mr Buu > Omega Shenron confirmed?

[Friezacooler]

Doubt Omega shenron was pure of heart, with him being infected with all that negative energy!!.

[Angelus]

Guys, Vegeta can't use spirit bomb.

[singsing]

Doubt Omega shenron was pure of heart, with him being infected with all that negative energy!!.

What you're saying is that Buu literally cannot die except for him being evil and being defeated by a Spirit Bomb formed by someone with a pure heart. So are you trying to say that in a fight, Omega Shenron would lose to Buu because Shenron would never be able to beat Buu?

[Angelus]

Yeah, let's not go there, please. This is a Vegeta VS Mr. Buu fight. Let's put it as a given that Vegeta can't use Spirit Bomb.

[Friezacooler]

What you're saying is that Buu literally cannot die except for him being evil and being defeated by a Spirit Bomb formed by someone with a pure heart. So are you trying to say that in a fight, Omega Shenron would lose to Buu because Shenron would never be able to beat Buu?[/quote]

Omega shenron is on a whole different class than Vegeta as he possesses the Negative karma ball which I guess is the opposite of the Sprit bomb? Vegeta doesn't have such attacks as Goku, Omega Shenron and Vegetto.

[Kamiccolo9]

Vegeta can't destroy Buu, at least at the level he's at. I doubt he's much stronger than his Buu Arc self, and Mr. Buu put up a fight against Pure Buu, who tore Vegeta apart.

However, Vegeta doesn't have to kill or knock out Buu to defeat him at the Budokai. All he has to do is knock him out of the ring. I can see Buu playing around and letting Vegeta do that without knowing any better.

[sintzu]

With the amount of training Vegeta does i don't see how he couldn't beat him especially since he put up a good fight the first time around.

[Cetra]

Goku said they just need to keep training in case Boo becomes evil again so they'd beat him. Considering he already was able to beat him in the Boo saga as he admitted and they kept training there is no reason they can't do it in the tournament, Vegeta included.

[Hitiro]

Vegeta can't destroy Buu, at least at the level he's at. I doubt he's much stronger than his Buu Arc self, and Mr. Buu put up a fight against Pure Buu, who tore Vegeta apart.

However, Vegeta doesn't have to kill or knock out Buu to defeat him at the Budokai. All he has to do is knock him out of the ring. I can see Buu playing around and letting Vegeta do that without knowing any better.

I don't believe that in 10 years Vegeta didn't get much stronger than his Boo arc self. He caught up and surpassed Gohan in 7 years despite the gap between them. Vegeta literally confirms that both him and Goku are stronger than Gohan is before the Majin Power-up. If Vegeta had gained at least 2x his Boo arc strength by EoZ then he would be half SSJ3 Goku. Which puts him in a good standing for a fight against Mr. Boo. Yes, Mr. Boo only really put up a fight. But only really because of his regen keeping him at his peak strength for longer. Vegeta got a blow in before he was attacked and damaged to the point he couldn't do as well. If Vegeta had regen like Mr. Boo he would have had several blows on Pure Boo.

Omega shenron is on a whole different class than Vegeta as he possesses the Negative karma ball which I guess is the opposite of the Sprit bomb? Vegeta doesn't have such attacks as Goku, Omega Shenron and Vegetto.

Goku says he could have defeat Fat Boo as a SSJ3 if he wanted to before he fights Pure Boo. Do you honestly believe that Goku was talking about Genki Dama there? Goku also says that if he was at full power he could also kill off Pure Boo. So why do these characters need only a Genki Dama to kill them off?