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Weekly Jump 1986 #37 Character Bio. Data
So, I've succeeded in obtaining a copy of Weekly Shōnen Jump 1986 #37. I had wanted this since this summer, when I found out that it contained the only known record of Bulma's birthday, which is 18 August. But after I got it, I realized it has much more than just that: it actually has biographical data for 10 different characters, including birthdays in some cases, which has largely been ignored by subsequent databooks (yet the information that is given in later books meshes pretty well, which means the data here probably came from Akira Toriyama himself).
I'll add pictures once I have a better signal with my phone.
So without further ado:
KURIRIN
Birthday: 29 October [He was born in AGE 736 according to Daizenshuu 7, making him a hair shy of 13 when Goku first meets him, and 13 at this point in the story]
Blood Type: A
Height & Weight: a secret [His adult height weight are 153 cm and 45 kg, respectively, so they'd have to be lower than that.]
Special characteristics: He started training in kenpo in order to be popular with girls.
SON GOKU
Birthday: [None given. To my knowledge, he's never given anything more detailed than "AGE 737", which is just 12 years prior to when he first meets Bulma.]
Blood Type: [None given.]
Height: Bigger than Kuririn [As an adult, it's 175 cm, but he's obviously shorter than that at this point.]
Weight: [None given. As an adult, it's given as 62 kg, which is impossibly light given his physique, but it's all we've got.]
Special characteristics: For some reason, he has a tail.
PU'ER
Birthday: 02 September [His birth year is given as AGE 740 in Daizenshuu 7, meaning he was four days past his 9th birthday when Goku, Bulma and Oolong first encountered him.]
Blood Type: AB
Height: 37 cm
Weight: 9 kg
Special characteristics: Yamcha's sidekick. He went to the same shapeshifting kindergarten as Oolong.
OOLONG
Birthday: 23 September [His birth year is given as AGE 740 in Daizenshuu 7, meaning he's actually three weeks younger than Pu'er.]
Blood Type: A
Height, Weight: a secret [The Adventure Special lists these as 121 cm and 32 kg, respectively, three years later in the story.]
Special characteristics: At any rate, he loves girls! Knows no special tricks apart from shapeshifting.
GYUMAO
Birthday: 06 May [As far as I know, his birth year is never given.]
Blood Type: O
Height: Over 4 m
Weight: Heavy.
Special characteristics: A former pupil of Kame-Sen'nin. Crazy-strong. His home is at Mount Frying-Pan.
BULMA
Birthday: 18 August [Her birth year is given as AGE 733 in Daizenshuu 7 and elsewhere; this makes her just barely 16 years old at the start of her Dragon Ball hunt.]
Blood Type: B
Height: 163 cm [Her adult height is 165 cm, so she's still growing at this point. Gotta squeak past Vegeta.]
Weight: 48 kg [She allegedly gains only a single kilo between the Red Ribbon arc and adulthood.]
Bust/Waist/Hip Measurements (cm): 85/58/84
Special characteristics: An energetic girl who is a genius with machinery and super-rich.
LUNCH
Birthday: 17 June [As far as I know, her birth year is never given; Japanese Wikipedia cites this issue in saying it was AGE 732, but it's not here, and as far as I know, that dating system hadn't been thought up yet. Whoever added that probably misread "17" as her age.]
Blood Type: AB
Height: 159 cm [More petite than Bulma.]
Weight: 47 kg
Bust/Waist/Hip Measurements (cm): 82/57/83
Special characteristics: A cute girl, with a fearsome split personality. With a single sneeze, she switches between a nice person and a wanted crook.
CHI-CHI
Birthday: 05 November [Her birth year is given as AGE 737 in Daizenshuu 7 and elsewhere, meaning she was 11 when she first appeared, 18 when she married Goku, and 19 when Gohan was born.]
Blood Type: AB
Height: 156 cm [Not that short, surprisingly enough. For comparison, her adult height is 163 cm.]
Weight: 40 kg [50 kg as an adult.]
Special characteristics: Gyumao's daughter. Having been pat-patted by Goku, she has made up her mind to marry him.
YAMCHA
Birthday: 20 March [His birth year is given as AGE 733 in Daizenshuu 7 and elsewhere, meaning he was 16 when he first appeared and 17 at the 21st Tenka'ichi Budōkai.]
Blood Type: O
Height: 181 cm [Like Bulma, he gains 2 cm between the Red Ribbon arc and adulthood, where he's 183 cm.]
Weight: 62 kg [Again, this is impossibly light, but so is the mere 68 kg he reaches as an adult.]
Special characteristics: A master of the Roga Fu-Fu Ken. He likes girls, but for some reason, he's not good around them.
KAME-SEN'NIN
Birthday: [None given. His birth year is given as AGE 430 in Daizenshuu 7 and elsewhere, making him 319~320 at this point in the story.]
Blood Type: O
Height: [None given. He's listed as 165 cm in Super Exciting Guide: Character Volume.]
Weight: [None given. He's listed as 44 kg in Super Exciting Guide: Character Volume.]
Bust/Waist/Hip Measurements (cm): 73/73/73 [Yes, that's what it really says. He's a scrawny, shapeless old man... who hides considerable strength.]
Special characteristics: Also known as the Muten Roshi. A god of martial arts, and the originator of the Kamehameha. He's so great, it's sad he's such a pervert. Goku's master.
I'll add pictures once I have a better signal with my phone.
So without further ado:
KURIRIN
Birthday: 29 October [He was born in AGE 736 according to Daizenshuu 7, making him a hair shy of 13 when Goku first meets him, and 13 at this point in the story]
Blood Type: A
Height & Weight: a secret [His adult height weight are 153 cm and 45 kg, respectively, so they'd have to be lower than that.]
Special characteristics: He started training in kenpo in order to be popular with girls.
SON GOKU
Birthday: [None given. To my knowledge, he's never given anything more detailed than "AGE 737", which is just 12 years prior to when he first meets Bulma.]
Blood Type: [None given.]
Height: Bigger than Kuririn [As an adult, it's 175 cm, but he's obviously shorter than that at this point.]
Weight: [None given. As an adult, it's given as 62 kg, which is impossibly light given his physique, but it's all we've got.]
Special characteristics: For some reason, he has a tail.
PU'ER
Birthday: 02 September [His birth year is given as AGE 740 in Daizenshuu 7, meaning he was four days past his 9th birthday when Goku, Bulma and Oolong first encountered him.]
Blood Type: AB
Height: 37 cm
Weight: 9 kg
Special characteristics: Yamcha's sidekick. He went to the same shapeshifting kindergarten as Oolong.
OOLONG
Birthday: 23 September [His birth year is given as AGE 740 in Daizenshuu 7, meaning he's actually three weeks younger than Pu'er.]
Blood Type: A
Height, Weight: a secret [The Adventure Special lists these as 121 cm and 32 kg, respectively, three years later in the story.]
Special characteristics: At any rate, he loves girls! Knows no special tricks apart from shapeshifting.
GYUMAO
Birthday: 06 May [As far as I know, his birth year is never given.]
Blood Type: O
Height: Over 4 m
Weight: Heavy.
Special characteristics: A former pupil of Kame-Sen'nin. Crazy-strong. His home is at Mount Frying-Pan.
BULMA
Birthday: 18 August [Her birth year is given as AGE 733 in Daizenshuu 7 and elsewhere; this makes her just barely 16 years old at the start of her Dragon Ball hunt.]
Blood Type: B
Height: 163 cm [Her adult height is 165 cm, so she's still growing at this point. Gotta squeak past Vegeta.]
Weight: 48 kg [She allegedly gains only a single kilo between the Red Ribbon arc and adulthood.]
Bust/Waist/Hip Measurements (cm): 85/58/84
Special characteristics: An energetic girl who is a genius with machinery and super-rich.
LUNCH
Birthday: 17 June [As far as I know, her birth year is never given; Japanese Wikipedia cites this issue in saying it was AGE 732, but it's not here, and as far as I know, that dating system hadn't been thought up yet. Whoever added that probably misread "17" as her age.]
Blood Type: AB
Height: 159 cm [More petite than Bulma.]
Weight: 47 kg
Bust/Waist/Hip Measurements (cm): 82/57/83
Special characteristics: A cute girl, with a fearsome split personality. With a single sneeze, she switches between a nice person and a wanted crook.
CHI-CHI
Birthday: 05 November [Her birth year is given as AGE 737 in Daizenshuu 7 and elsewhere, meaning she was 11 when she first appeared, 18 when she married Goku, and 19 when Gohan was born.]
Blood Type: AB
Height: 156 cm [Not that short, surprisingly enough. For comparison, her adult height is 163 cm.]
Weight: 40 kg [50 kg as an adult.]
Special characteristics: Gyumao's daughter. Having been pat-patted by Goku, she has made up her mind to marry him.
YAMCHA
Birthday: 20 March [His birth year is given as AGE 733 in Daizenshuu 7 and elsewhere, meaning he was 16 when he first appeared and 17 at the 21st Tenka'ichi Budōkai.]
Blood Type: O
Height: 181 cm [Like Bulma, he gains 2 cm between the Red Ribbon arc and adulthood, where he's 183 cm.]
Weight: 62 kg [Again, this is impossibly light, but so is the mere 68 kg he reaches as an adult.]
Special characteristics: A master of the Roga Fu-Fu Ken. He likes girls, but for some reason, he's not good around them.
KAME-SEN'NIN
Birthday: [None given. His birth year is given as AGE 430 in Daizenshuu 7 and elsewhere, making him 319~320 at this point in the story.]
Blood Type: O
Height: [None given. He's listed as 165 cm in Super Exciting Guide: Character Volume.]
Weight: [None given. He's listed as 44 kg in Super Exciting Guide: Character Volume.]
Bust/Waist/Hip Measurements (cm): 73/73/73 [Yes, that's what it really says. He's a scrawny, shapeless old man... who hides considerable strength.]
Special characteristics: Also known as the Muten Roshi. A god of martial arts, and the originator of the Kamehameha. He's so great, it's sad he's such a pervert. Goku's master.
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最近、あんまし投稿してないねんけど、見てんで。いっつも見てる。
最近、あんまし投稿してないねんけど、見てんで。いっつも見てる。
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Re: Weekly Jump 1986 #37 Character Bio. Data
Cool stuff!
I like Gyumao's weight.
Now, they need to work Yamcha being a universal donor into the story, somehow.
This may be me being a bit slow at the moment, but in Chi-Chi's description, does "Since she was pat-patted by Goku...." mean "Because she was pat-patted" or "ever since she was pat-patted?"
And I never thought I'd use the words "pat-patted" that many times in once sentence before.
I like Gyumao's weight.
Now, they need to work Yamcha being a universal donor into the story, somehow.
This may be me being a bit slow at the moment, but in Chi-Chi's description, does "Since she was pat-patted by Goku...." mean "Because she was pat-patted" or "ever since she was pat-patted?"
And I never thought I'd use the words "pat-patted" that many times in once sentence before.
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Guess we now know at what time of year Battle of Gods takes place, and as expected, it's late summer. But assuming Videl is already about one month along in her pregnancy, that barely leaves enough room for Pan to still be four years old and not quite five in May five years later.
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Yeah. To play Devil's Advocate though, I suppose it depends on if it is held on her actual birthday or not. Recent Toriyama interviews for Battle of Gods had him saying that Bluma isn’t the sort of person who would want to go out of her way to throw a birthday party. That she doesn’t hold one every year; only when she wants to see everyone. Since nothing is directly stated in the film, it's possible she could have had the actual party when she assumed everyone could make it instead, as she doesn't seem to care about the event itself.Kaboom wrote:Guess we now know at what time of year Battle of Gods takes place, and as expected, it's late summer. But assuming Videl is already about one month along in her pregnancy, that barely leaves enough room for Pan to still be four years old and not quite five in May five years later.
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WTF!!! Gyumao is 4 Meters tall!! Damn that's tall.
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It sounds kind of accurate to how it looks... for a change. It never ceases to amaze me how weirdly Japanese fiction seems to treat weight and height. In Pokemon, a giant rock monster snake at 8.8 meters long, Onix, is listed at a far too low weight of 210 kilos, in DB, Goku, a muscular man is listed at 62 kilos, in Hokuto no Ken, Raoh, who appears to be around 9 feet or so, is listed as 6'6'', in Tekken, Jin Kazama, an extremely solid looking guy, is listed at a below average weight for a normal physique of 75 kilos, Ryu from Street Fighter is listed at 68 kilos, and it just goes on like that...Angelus wrote:WTF!!! Gyumao is 4 Meters tall!! Damn that's tall.
From what I've seen it's so pervasive it almost suggests that it's something in Japanese culture. Very very muscular characters are listed with weights more like a skinnyfat salary man.
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Great share, Julian! Thank you for translating this.
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He's available ladiesSaiyaJedi wrote: KAME-SEN'NIN
Bust/Waist/Hip Measurements (cm): 73/73/73 [Yes, that's what it really says. He's a scrawny, shapeless old man... who hides considerable strength.]
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Does seventy-three have a reading in Japanese that might explain why all three measurements are seventy-three?
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Actually, there's not really anything wrong with the official weights for Goku and Yamcha about 60% of the time. Usually, they look normal to skinny, likely because Toriyama doesn't want to draw them as muscular all the time because it takes more work and doesn't always fit the mood. It's generally only in battle that they look bulky as shit. Goku also looks noticeably bulkier after training with Kaio. Speaking of which, Japanese people tend to be lightly built, so maybe that's why numerous characters from Japanese works are given improbably low weights?
On the contrary, I notice that a lot of American comic book characters tend to have unusually high heights and weights. They're more prone to being unusually heavy if they're not tall (Wolverine being nearly 200 pounds at 5'3?!).
Ox-King's height and weight amuse me. Although it seems that Toriyama retconned his height later, it's interesting that he was actually listed as being over 13 feet tall at one point.
On the contrary, I notice that a lot of American comic book characters tend to have unusually high heights and weights. They're more prone to being unusually heavy if they're not tall (Wolverine being nearly 200 pounds at 5'3?!).
Ox-King's height and weight amuse me. Although it seems that Toriyama retconned his height later, it's interesting that he was actually listed as being over 13 feet tall at one point.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Well, I'm around 5'11, which is a similar height to Yamcha, and weigh around 57kg, which I can confirm for my height is pretty damned skinny. I'd say the given weight for Yamcha comes in somewhere roughly around the lower end of average weight for the height... And Yamcha is portrayed as being pretty buff.RandomGuy96 wrote:Actually, there's not really anything wrong with the official weights for Goku and Yamcha about 60% of the time. Usually, they look normal to skinny, likely because Toriyama doesn't want to draw them as muscular all the time because it takes more work and doesn't always fit the mood. It's generally only in battle that they look bulky as shit. Goku also looks noticeably bulkier after training with Kaio. Speaking of which, Japanese people tend to be lightly built, so maybe that's why numerous characters from Japanese works are given improbably low weights?
On the contrary, I notice that a lot of American comic book characters tend to have unusually high heights and weights. They're more prone to being unusually heavy if they're not tall (Wolverine being nearly 200 pounds at 5'3?!).
Ox-King's height and weight amuse me. Although it seems that Toriyama retconned his height later, it's interesting that he was actually listed as being over 13 feet tall at one point.
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Sometimes. Other times, he can look thin. Toriyama's not too consistent about height and weight. He's definitely not as bulky as Goku is sometimes drawn as being, anyway. 57 kg at 5'11 is underweight, while 68 kg at 6'0 is just at the skinnier side of average. I could buy that for Yamcha's weight, he's not really buff.Blade wrote:Well, I'm around 5'11, which is a similar height to Yamcha, and weigh around 57kg, which I can confirm for my height is pretty damned skinny. I'd say the given weight for Yamcha comes in somewhere roughly around the lower end of average weight for the height... And Yamcha is portrayed as being pretty buff.RandomGuy96 wrote:Actually, there's not really anything wrong with the official weights for Goku and Yamcha about 60% of the time. Usually, they look normal to skinny, likely because Toriyama doesn't want to draw them as muscular all the time because it takes more work and doesn't always fit the mood. It's generally only in battle that they look bulky as shit. Goku also looks noticeably bulkier after training with Kaio. Speaking of which, Japanese people tend to be lightly built, so maybe that's why numerous characters from Japanese works are given improbably low weights?
On the contrary, I notice that a lot of American comic book characters tend to have unusually high heights and weights. They're more prone to being unusually heavy if they're not tall (Wolverine being nearly 200 pounds at 5'3?!).
Ox-King's height and weight amuse me. Although it seems that Toriyama retconned his height later, it's interesting that he was actually listed as being over 13 feet tall at one point.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Wolverine also has a metal skeleton.RandomGuy96 wrote: On the contrary, I notice that a lot of American comic book characters tend to have unusually high heights and weights. They're more prone to being unusually heavy if they're not tall (Wolverine being nearly 200 pounds at 5'3?!).
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Muscle is heavier than fat. Even without being very bulky, they should weigh more.
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He's 300 pounds when considering the skeleton according to the wiki. 195 pounds was without the skeleton. That's hardly the only unusually high weight to come from comics. See also Captain America being 6'2 and 240 pounds. While that's certainly possible, there's really no reason he should be that bulky. He still would be quite muscular even if he were 45 pounds lighter. I know it might be redundant to bring it up, but being really heavy is actually non-ideal for a soldier.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Wolverine also has a metal skeleton.RandomGuy96 wrote: On the contrary, I notice that a lot of American comic book characters tend to have unusually high heights and weights. They're more prone to being unusually heavy if they're not tall (Wolverine being nearly 200 pounds at 5'3?!).
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The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Re: Weekly Jump 1986 #37 Character Bio. Data
Wolverine is 195 lbs without his Adamantium skeleton. With it he is 300 lbs. But I guess you can chalk down Wolverines extra weight, without the metal, to his 6 extra 12+ inch pieces of bones that make up his bone claws. I would also assume that because Wolverine has an incredible healing factor his bone density is higher than most individuals. Up until the age of 20 our bodies are building bone faster than it can be replaced. That's why young people heal faster when they break or fracture their bones. After 20 years old the osteoclast(Cells that deal with worn-out bone) become faster than the the osteoblast(Cells that create new bone). As such you are fighting losing battle when you are healing from fractures and breaks when you're older. But Wolverine probably has an extremely high osteoblast count. Thus he is constantly piling on the bone while his osteoclast cells struggle to keep up with breaking down the worn-bone. Thus more bone density?Kamiccolo9 wrote:Wolverine also has a metal skeleton.RandomGuy96 wrote: On the contrary, I notice that a lot of American comic book characters tend to have unusually high heights and weights. They're more prone to being unusually heavy if they're not tall (Wolverine being nearly 200 pounds at 5'3?!).
With the Saiyan's and any other character in Dragon Ball though, there isn't a reason for them to be so light. I guess you could surmise that the Saiyan's have a different constitution to humans which makes them lighter and tougher to make them more battle efficient? Basically muscle that isn't like human muscle. But that would be a stretch.
Are you saying Wolverine shouldn't be that heavy as it is non-ideal for a soldier? Or was that about Captain America? Because it doesn't really matter that Wolverine is heavy. He has enhanced strength and speed above a normal human. In fact he is actually weaker than he was before his skeleton was bound with Adamantium because the extra weight is inhibiting his strength and speed. As for Captain America the super serum has granted him immunity from fatigue caused by lactic acid. So he doesn't have to worry about his weight. He can always perform at his peak for as long as he needs to given he has enough energy in his system from food.RandomGuy96 wrote:He's 300 pounds when considering the skeleton according to the wiki. 195 pounds was without the skeleton. That's hardly the only unusually high weight to come from comics. See also Captain America being 6'2 and 240 pounds. While that's certainly possible, there's really no reason he should be that bulky. He still would be quite muscular even if he were thirty pounds lighter. I know it might be redundant to bring it up, but being really heavy is actually non-ideal for a soldier.
They both make ideal soldiers. Especially when you consider that people with their traits were dime-a-dozen in the world wars.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
He's 300 pounds when considering the skeleton according to the wiki. 195 pounds was without the skeleton..

This guy is 175 lbs and 5 ft 6 in.
Wolverine would be more short and heavier, but as you can see from the photo, there's room for that guy to have bigger muscles. And, as it has been said, Wolverine has extras bones and might have stuff going on like having denser muscles and/or bones.
In any case, its not weird for a work of fiction to exaggerate on the muscles and weigh of a character to make it look more impressive. What's weird is making them seem less impressive, like weighting less than they should despite their muscles.
As for him, Dwayne Johnson is 260 lb and 6 ft 5. So, like you said its a perfectly possible build. As for the necessity of being that bulky, considering that he can do feats with those muscles beyond any regular human, but he is not quite super-human, it makes perfect sense for him to have to be that bulky to achieve those feats, unlike someone like spider-man who can be thin and lift cars nonetheless. Also, with that look, he looks like the perfect specimen.RandomGuy96 wrote: See also Captain America being 6'2 and 240 pounds. While that's certainly possible, there's really no reason he should be that bulky.
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Re: Weekly Jump 1986 #37 Character Bio. Data
Or they're really just not meant to be that muscular. Generally, they're only drawn as such in certain cases, and are thin outside of combat. In addition to this information (and the info in the Adventure Special) likely coming from Toriyama himself, Vegeta's weight is guessed at 132 pounds in the manga itself. I also doubt that Nappa is supposed to be twelve feet tall with hands bigger than his own head. Or that Krillin really is literally two feet tall, shorter than a four year old and at knee level with most adults.With the Saiyan's and any other character in Dragon Ball though, there isn't a reason for them to be so light. I guess you could surmise that the Saiyan's have a different constitution to humans which makes them lighter and tougher to make them more battle efficient? Basically muscle that isn't like human muscle. But that would be a stretch.
Captain America, because he actually is a soldier. Ideally, soldiers shouldn't be body builders. Even if he has superhuman stamina, there's no reason for him to be so bulky, unless he just never can increase or decrease certain attributes no matter what he does with his body. Which would be dumb.Are you saying Wolverine shouldn't be that heavy as it is non-ideal for a soldier? Or was that about Captain America? Because it doesn't really matter that Wolverine is heavy. He has enhanced strength and speed above a normal human. In fact he is actually weaker than he was before his skeleton was bound with Adamantium because the extra weight is inhibiting his strength and speed. As for Captain America the super serum has granted him immunity from fatigue caused by lactic acid. So he doesn't have to worry about his weight. He can always perform at his peak for as long as he needs to given he has enough energy in his system from food.
It is weird, to me. There's no reason for him to be that heavy. There's no reason for every single comic book male (except a few, like Wolverine himself) to be over six feet, either. I know why they do it, just like I know why a lot of Japanese characters have unusually small weights, but it bothers me.In any case, its not weird for a work of fiction to exaggerate on the muscles and weigh of a character to make it look more impressive. What's weird is making them seem less impressive, like weighting less than they should despite their muscles.
No, he is 6'3 and lies very blatantly about his height. He is very bulky, but that's because he's an actor and wrestler, and so is able to specifically cultivate that build. just don't think it makes sense for Captain America or Wolverine to be so bulky, because such a body would require high maintenance without offering any real advantages in turn.As for him, Dwayne Johnson is 260 lb and 6 ft 5. So, like you said its a perfectly possible build. As for the necessity of being that bulky, considering that he can do feats with those muscles beyond any regular human, but he is not quite super-human, it makes perfect sense for him to have to be that bulky to achieve those feats, unlike someone like spider-man who can be thin and lift cars nonetheless.
I have no idea why you think Captain America isn't superhuman. He performs blatantly superhuman feats all the time. It's like trying to say that Spider-Man isn't superhuman.
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The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Re: Weekly Jump 1986 #37 Character Bio. Data
Obviously, I got his info from the internet. I didn't personally measure him. But, if he's actually shorter and weights that, then he's an even better example to demonstrate that Captain's America build is perfectly possible.RandomGuy96 wrote:
No, he is 6'3 and lies very blatantly about his height. He is very bulky, but that's because he's an actor and wrestler.
I have no idea why you think Captain America isn't superhuman. He performs blatantly superhuman feats all the time. It's like trying to say that Spider-Man isn't superhuman.
As for the rest...: "Captain America has no superhuman powers, but through the Super-Soldier Serum and "Vita-Ray" treatment, he is transformed and his strength, endurance, agility, speed, reflexes, durability, and healing are at the zenith of natural human potential."
In other words, he's not officially recognized as super-human level, he just has been artificially pushed to the limits of human physical potential. Meaning that, even though no regular human will reach his feats naturally, he is also not quite at the super-human range, he is somewhere in the limit of the two realms.
Spider-man is clearly super-human.








