DBZ Ocean dub & DBGT Blue Water dub clips

Kula · Post by **Kula** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:35 pm

Here in the U.K. we recieved the Ocean dub from the beginning of the android saga, all the way through to the end of the series. We also recieved the Blue Water dub of GT, complete with original background music, and we got to see all the episodes from the beginning straight away.

So, as promised here is a link to a zip file that contains 34 audio clips from the Ocean dub of DBZ and the Blue Water dub of GT...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SA79HZGH

Most of the season 1 and 2 voice actors from Ocean reprised their roles.
The voices of Goku and Gohan changed part way through the cell saga. You may recognise Goku as Cyclops from X-Men Evolution.

tarsonis · Post by **tarsonis** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:08 pm

Thanks, I've been wanting to hear how the Ocean Studios VAs sound now.

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:33 pm

Cool, thanks a lot. I really wanted to hear these for a while. Boo sounds really retarded

I like Trunks and Gotens voice though.

Timo · Post by **Timo** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:58 pm

I looo0oove the Ocean cast of DBZ. To bad there are no DVDs and you can't find any episodes in the internet (or P2P programms).

El_Diablo · Post by **El_Diablo** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 3:04 pm

I don't see why people don't like Ocean's Boo.

FUNimation's Boo sounds even worse.

Also, you wouldn't happen to have Piccolo powering up against Cell or fusing with Kami-sama, would you? Some of the best voice acting ever, I think.

Having listened to all of them, I remember just how much I love that dub. If they were on DVD, I'd buy them in a second.

Kirbopher · Post by **Kirbopher** » Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:27 pm

I don't know much about the Blue Water voice actors, but those've you who are wondering who the post-Freeza Saga characters are voiced by in DBZ, here's the list.

Android 16- Scott McNiel
Android 17- Ted Cole
Android 18- Enuka Okuma
Android 19- Patricia Drake
Android 20- Brian Dobson
Bulma- Maggie Blue 'O Hara
Goku- Kirby Morrow
Cell (Imperfect and Perfect)- Dale Wilson
Hercule- Don Brown
Dabura- Scott McNiel
Fat Majin Buu- Scott McNiel
Future Trunks- Alstair Abell
Gohan (New)- Cathy Wesluck
Babidi- Terry Klassen
Pikkon- Brian Drummond
Olibu- Dale Wilson
Super Buu- Brian Dobson
Vegetto- Brian Drummond
Surpreme Kai- Micheal Dobson
Kid Trunks- Patricia Drake
Goten- Jillean Micheals
Videl- Moneca Stori (:D)
Teen Gohan- Brad Swaile

Okay, now I love both the FUNimation Cast AND the Ocean Group, but I'm sorry...Mike was right on the Podcast. That direction SUCKED. What I find really ironic is that they used practically the same exact script that FUNimation used (which I'm surprised they didn't get in trouble for) except they were protraying it badly (or to those've you who don't like the FUNi cast to begin with, portaying it worse). I'll admit that I liked a few of the voices for some characters, Videl and Dr. Gero for example, and maybe Kirby Morrow's SS3 voice...but everyone else, just...UGH. As for the GT Clips, those were even WORSE, and that prettymuch cancelled out them using the original BGM for me. And hell, I'd prefer listening to the rap song than what they just did to DAN DAN. Ew. I can understand those who're more used to the Ocean Cast and prefer them, but my god x_x;

But, in any case, I've been wondering what they would've sounded like if they kept the original cast all the way through, and these clips were actually of pretty damn good recording quality, so thank you very much Kula for gathering these all together.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:59 am

Brian Drummond as Vegetto?!

...orgasmic.

But no, I've seen a lot of these clips and...yea, the direction just didn't do the VA's justice in the least. Maybe if they had the funding of current Funi and direction from someone like...friggen Steven J Simmons then heck yes.

Meh, it's all just subpar dubbing in the big picture.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:11 am

It seems like no one told Tien's Ocean voice actor to quit overacting. I saw a clip of him speaking to Vegeta when he and Trunks exited the Room of Spirit and Time. God, I thought it was just his lines that sucked at first. Now I know he just overacts entirely. x_X

Kirbopher · Post by **Kirbopher** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:12 pm

Tsukento wrote:It seems like no one told Tenshinhan's Ocean voice actor to quit overacting. I saw a clip of him speaking to Vegeta when he and Trunks exited the Room of Spirit and Time. God, I thought it was just his lines that sucked at first. Now I know he just overacts entirely. x_X

Yeah, Matt Smith. I saw another Ocean dubbed episode lastnight on Toonami, and it was the same deal with him. In all honesty, I think the only two roles he's ever pulled off WELL, were Hojo from Inuyasha, and most recently Raika from Megaman...that's about it, as far as I know @.@

Eclipse · Post by **Eclipse** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:15 pm

Duo wrote:Brian Drummond as Vegetto?!

...orgasmic.

But no, I've seen a lot of these clips and...yea, the direction just didn't do the VA's justice in the least. Maybe if they had the funding of current Funi and direction from someone like...friggen Steven J Simmons then heck yes.

Meh, it's all just subpar dubbing in the big picture.

Wait a moment.....I thought that the fusion characters had to use the VA's 'fused' voices....how is this possible when only one actor voices for Vegetto...I remember hearing two voices for the Ocean Dub..not two.

It seems like no one told Tenshinhan's Ocean voice actor to quit overacting. I saw a clip of him speaking to Vegeta when he and Trunks exited the Room of Spirit and Time. God, I thought it was just his lines that sucked at first. Now I know he just overacts entirely. x_X

Heh heh.

Question about the music for Z. I've heard somewhere that it was recycled stuff from say, Mega Man. That true or not?

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:10 pm

Yeah, when I heard the clips I picked up on them right away because I'd heard them on "Megaman" when I was 7 years old, and hadn't forgotten the music for some reason.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 7:48 pm

El_Diablo wrote:I don't see why people don't like Ocean's Boo.

FUNimation's Boo sounds even worse.

As much as I hate FUNi's Buu..Ocean's sounds worse, man. x_x; Buu shouldn't have his voice lowered to helium equivalence. At all.

Goten and Trunks DO have good voices in Z though. I really like them. o.o

As for the music, I hear it's not just Megaman but also Monster Rancher.

Kirbopher · Post by **Kirbopher** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:00 pm

Eclipse wrote:Wait a moment.....I thought that the fusion characters had to use the VA's 'fused' voices....how is this possible when only one actor voices for Vegetto...I remember hearing two voices for the Ocean Dub..not two.

For this one it was apparantly just Brian Drummond attempting to use a Goku voice, rather then have he and Kirby Morrow talk at the same time like the usual fusions.

...am I the only one who likes the FUNi Buu? He's just so cute :<

Tenka-Ichi · Post by **Tenka-Ichi** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:46 am

What I find really ironic is that they used practically the same exact script that FUNimation used (which I'm surprised they didn't get in trouble for)

Practically the same script? It IS the same script, it's also the same video footage already editied by FUNimation, the only thing different from this dub and the FUNimation dub is voices and music. The bluewater dubs of the original Dragonball and GT are translated from the french version with the video footage and music from that version (Which are original and unedited, but probably due to the fact that they were converted from NTSC to PAL and back to NTSC again, aswell as sitting on the shelf for years, the quality is HORRIBLE (one way to tell that it's from the french version is in one episode near the end of dragonball whith sound effects written on-screen in japanese that are subtitled, but they're not subtitled in english, they're subtitled in french... BOUM!!

)). Anyway, yeah the directing for DBZ was terrible, most of those voice actors have done MUCH better jobs with other voices on everything else they do, but for some reason while doing DBZ, they sucked.

Daimao · Post by **Daimao** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:57 pm

Duo wrote:Maybe if they had the funding of current Funi and direction from someone like...friggen Steven J Simmons then heck yes.

I'm not so sure how good an idea that would be. If you mean voice direction, you should know that I don't know a thing about acting. I also have a fairly high tolerance for dub performances, so I can see putting me in the driver's seat as a really bad idea for those more discriminating than myself.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:26 pm

Daimao wrote:
Duo wrote:Maybe if they had the funding of current Funi and direction from someone like...friggen Steven J Simmons then heck yes.
I'm not so sure how good an idea that would be. If you mean voice direction, you should know that I don't know a thing about acting. I also have a fairly high tolerance for dub performances, so I can see putting me in the driver's seat as a really bad idea for those more discriminating than myself.

Don't shatter my image of you as a demi-god.

Tsukento · Post by **Tsukento** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:25 pm

Tenka-Ichi wrote:Practically the same script? It IS the same script, it's also the same video footage already editied by FUNimation, the only thing different from this dub and the FUNimation dub is voices and music. The bluewater dubs of the original Dragonball and GT are translated from the french version with the video footage and music from that version (Which are original and unedited, but probably due to the fact that they were converted from NTSC to PAL and back to NTSC again, aswell as sitting on the shelf for years, the quality is HORRIBLE (one way to tell that it's from the french version is in one episode near the end of dragonball whith sound effects written on-screen in japanese that are subtitled, but they're not subtitled in english, they're subtitled in french... BOUM!! )). Anyway, yeah the directing for DBZ was terrible, most of those voice actors have done MUCH better jobs with other voices on everything else they do, but for some reason while doing DBZ, they sucked.

Actually, this is similar to the redubs of Seasons 1 and 2. This dub does borrow a lot of the script from FUNimation, though there will be times where they change it up. Someone had posted two videos of the same clip, different companies regarding Goku seeing Bulma and Vegeta again after several years of no contact and when Goku explains there being a human that was really strong that would be entering the world tournament. Some of the dialogue is actually different in the Ocean dub than in the FUNimation dub.

Yeah, a lot of the voices aren't that great but there's actually still a few of them that are quite good. I actually like Kirby Morrow as Goku. He kinda captures the same escense that Ian Corlett did with Goku. Especially when he's portraying the calm, innocent Son Goku we all know and love.

And y'know..the English GT theme may suck for being short as hell and lacking in lyrics, but it's actually more dead-on accurate to the story than FUNi's bastardized version that felt fighting and firing blasts was the main focus. o_O; If you listen to the Blue Water lyrics they're pretty much focused on finding the Dragon Balls, which IS the main point to the start of GT.

El_Diablo · Post by **El_Diablo** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:37 pm

The last three episodes aren't from FUNimation. Which is why they are a bit different.

Tenka-Ichi · Post by **Tenka-Ichi** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:20 pm

El_Diablo wrote:The last three episodes aren't from FUNimation. Which is why they are a bit different.

You're right, the last three episodes of DBZ weren't from FUNimation, they were from the french version. I almost forgot that.

Kirbopher · Post by **Kirbopher** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:02 pm

Daimao wrote:I'm not so sure how good an idea that would be. If you mean voice direction, you should know that I don't know a thing about acting. I also have a fairly high tolerance for dub performances, so I can see putting me in the driver's seat as a really bad idea for those more discriminating than myself.

Well as long as you're here, might as well say awesome job on all of the subtitles for each of the FUNi releases

Buy yeah. Translating and directing are two COMPLETELY different things guys. It helps a lot more if the directors are also actors, and thus know how to use different terms and correct direction. That's how Mike McFarland and Coleen Clinkinbeard eventually became directors for a lot of the newer shows.

Kanzenshuu

DBZ Ocean dub & DBGT Blue Water dub clips

DBZ Ocean dub & DBGT Blue Water dub clips

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