Watching Fusion Reborn for the first time

jollyr · Post by **jollyr** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:03 am

It's certainly one of my favorite of the movies and I think Janembas the most unique villain of all the movies. I also like how they got into Vegetas feelings on death a little. I also think all the villains coming back from hell could've made a great movie on its own and I think it was kind of wasted in this one. But how do you all feel about this movie?

DarkPrince_92 · Post by **DarkPrince_92** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:06 am

The movie I have the least problems with. It was solid I'd say.

LordCrumb · Post by **LordCrumb** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:23 am

I like it quite a lot, except for the really odd animation/drawings of everyone when they are fighting the living-dead villains.. especially Gotenks and Trunks. They have HUGE black lines around them and it makes it look like a pre-schoolers cartoon. It's quite distracting.

Other than that, I enjoy it. The way Janemba breaks apart when he teleports is so damn cool.

FindKenshi · Post by **FindKenshi** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:30 am

jollyr wrote:I think Janembas the most unique villain of all the movies

He's basically Buu... fat, playful villain easy to underestimate based on manners and appearance, that holds a dreadful power. Changes into awesome-looking sleek battle mode like Evil Buu.

NitroEX · Post by **NitroEX** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:34 am

LordCrumb wrote:I like it quite a lot, except for the really odd animation/drawings of everyone when they are fighting the living-dead villains.. especially Gotenks and Trunks. They have HUGE black lines around them and it makes it look like a pre-schoolers cartoon. It's quite distracting.

I'm sure that was the point. The part with Goten & Trunks was a gag scene and the playful art style helped convey that.

fadeddreams5 · Post by **fadeddreams5** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:36 am

FindKenshi wrote:
jollyr wrote:I think Janembas the most unique villain of all the movies
He's basically Buu... fat, playful villain easy to underestimate based on manners and appearance, that holds a dreadful power. Changes into awesome-looking sleek battle mode like Evil Buu.

Well, Buu has a child mentality. Janemba is more of a baby. So he's basically... Baby Buu. lol.

Super Janemba is another story.

Definitely my favorite DBZ movie villain.

TheLegend23 · Post by **TheLegend23** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 1:43 am

It's definitely up there with my favorites ! Id rank it #3 on my list !

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:04 am

Definitely one of my fave db movies. Rewatched it semi recently for the first time in a while.
I miss the old art style so hard. It's not Toriyama, but so much tighter than present day Yamamuro.
Gokû's dialogue (more so his performance of it) with Vegeta after being rescued is heart-grabbing. Emotionally charged counter part to the brain-meltingly cute "desu" scene in BOG.

Also, the sheer number of silly faces Vegeta cycles through in a blink and you'll miss it moment after Gokû tells him he's already dead in response to Vegeta being all would rather die than fuse.

Not to mention this movie qualifies as containing an abridged Fukkatsu on 「F」. It revives Freeza and his army, they prepare to attack, and get destroyed by The Great Saiyaman. :3

And that's why Saiyaman isn't in 「F」, because he defeated a revived Freeza already. :3

jollyr · Post by **jollyr** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:04 am

LordCrumb wrote:I like it quite a lot, except for the really odd animation/drawings of everyone when they are fighting the living-dead villains.. especially Gotenks and Trunks. They have HUGE black lines around them and it makes it look like a pre-schoolers cartoon. It's quite distracting.

Other than that, I enjoy it. The way Janemba breaks apart when he teleports is so damn cool.

Really? I actually loved that pop art style

Ashelia · Post by **Ashelia** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:30 am

DarkPrince_92 wrote:The movie I have the least problems with. It was solid I'd say.

I feel basically the same, there's not much for me to complain about though my favorite movie is #13.

I don't often care for villains but Janemba is pretty cool, especially when he teleports and the scenery itself in the movie really fits him. Everything from Hitler returning to the weird art style just fit the playful atmosphere (such an odd sentence lol), I liked it.

jollyr · Post by **jollyr** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:48 am

Ashelia wrote:
DarkPrince_92 wrote:The movie I have the least problems with. It was solid I'd say.
I feel basically the same, there's not much for me to complain about though my favorite movie is #13.

I don't often care for villains but Janemba is pretty cool, especially when he teleports and the scenery itself in the movie really fits him. Everything from Hitler returning to the weird art style just fit the playful atmosphere (such an odd sentence lol), I liked it.

I haven't seen 13 yet ( been watching all the movies again and some I haven't ever seen) but if it beats this one ill let you know

Ashelia · Post by **Ashelia** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:02 am

I won't spoil it for you but I like 97% of #13 because despite not caring for kid Trunks I really liked that the focus was mostly on him and Tapion, I learned to like Trunks here but its not an action heavy movie so it may bore you.

The 3% I dislike is the ending, which the (JP) title kind of gives away so have fun figuring out that mystery lol. Tell us how it goes.

Kakacarrottop · Post by **Kakacarrottop** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:15 am

For me that film falls under "so dumb and over the top it's good".

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:50 pm

It's fun, it has good choreography, some neat character designs, a couple good fights, cool powers, and Freeza getting one-shotted. A very solid movie for what it is.

SS3 Goku and SS2 Vegeta vs Evil Janemba might be the best DBZ movie fight. At the very least, it's in the top three for me. And SS Gogeta vs Evil Janemba, despite being an anticlimactic curb-stomp, was still stylish. At least it wasn't literally over in or two hits, like most climaxes in these movies, and Gogeta had to actually beat on Janemba.

SSJ God Gogeta · Post by **SSJ God Gogeta** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:33 pm

Definitely my favorite DBZ movie.
Great animation, character designs, music, this movie has it all. It still has (in my opinion) one of Goku's best transformations, it still gives me goose bumps.
Janemba by far is one of the coolest DBZ villains, his techniques are awesome and the way he teleports by breaking into little cubes is "mondo cool".

The moments between Goku and Vegeta were great, definitely felt some bonding there. The comedy was great as well, from Goten and Trunks going up against the dictator and his army of the undead, Veku VS. Janemba and Pikkon VS. the barrier I find all really funny.

And finally, the moment Gogeta enters was just badass.

LordCrumb wrote:They have HUGE black lines around them and it makes it look like a pre-schoolers cartoon. It's quite distracting.

I loved that, it was something new and different but hey to each his own.

DarkPrince_92 · Post by **DarkPrince_92** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:47 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:It's fun, it has good choreography, some neat character designs, a couple good fights, cool powers, and Freeza getting one-shotted. A very solid movie for what it is.

SS3 Goku and SS2 Vegeta vs Evil Janemba might be the best DBZ movie fight. At the very least, it's in the top three for me. And SS Gogeta vs Evil Janemba, despite being an anticlimactic curb-stomp, was still stylish. At least it wasn't literally over in or two hits, like most climaxes in these movies, and Gogeta had to actually beat on Janemba.

That was literally nothing... Vegeta did like 2 things and then got instantly smoked. But Goku's fight before that was awesome. And I also love how little we saw of Gogeta's ability, I like the mystery.

FortuneSSJ · Post by **FortuneSSJ** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:52 pm

Movie is cool. Not the best but far from being the worst.
Janemba is great though.

IDreamtIWasABee · Post by **IDreamtIWasABee** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:51 pm

The Boo saga without the bullshit.

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:57 pm

DarkPrince_92 wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:It's fun, it has good choreography, some neat character designs, a couple good fights, cool powers, and Freeza getting one-shotted. A very solid movie for what it is.

SS3 Goku and SS2 Vegeta vs Evil Janemba might be the best DBZ movie fight. At the very least, it's in the top three for me. And SS Gogeta vs Evil Janemba, despite being an anticlimactic curb-stomp, was still stylish. At least it wasn't literally over in or two hits, like most climaxes in these movies, and Gogeta had to actually beat on Janemba.
That was literally nothing... Vegeta did like 2 things and then got instantly smoked. But Goku's fight before that was awesome. And I also love how little we saw of Gogeta's ability, I like the mystery.

I consider them all part of the same fight, because there's no real break between them.

Jackal puFF · Post by **Jackal puFF** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:35 pm

When I first saw it, I was a bit disappointed that Gogeta wasn't in there that long.

After seeing Broly for so long, Janemba was a nice change. It just felt the movie was a bit short.

I was kinda annoyed by Hitler in this movie.. Why does he have to be here? In the dragonball world? It's funny and all but It just felt so out of place. Would have been neat if it was the red ribbon army or something.

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