Uub - Wasted Potential or Uninteresting
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I think he's not interesting and don't see any appeal to the character nor was I dying to see him explored more in GT so there was no disappointment in seeing that character not given much.
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I think he got a fair amount of exposure in GT (unlike certain other DB/Z characters). I also think he is/was pretty interesting since he's the first dark skinned human character to be on the Z Fighters level post DB, and as we all know Dragon Ball is very popular among people of all colors/races/etc.
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His skin color makes HIM interesting?
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Uub has an uninteresting personality, but an interesting back-story. In a different series altogether that focuses on Uub as this kid growing up in a large, poor family, has a lot of latent power whose origin he doesn't know about (and would surely have a dramatic reveal eventually) could make good drama. Who knows, maybe Majin Buu had victims who survived and went looking for revenge? Uub has to battle people looking to destroy him for what he did in his past life. Almost-kinda Rurouni Kenshin-esque situation only with the main character reincarnated instead of reinventing himself.
EoZ Pan however, she has a fun personality. I like her. I'm still sad about what they did to her in GT; she had so much life in Z where in GT she's suddenly all, I dunno, grumpy half the time, or tsundere, or something.
EoZ Pan however, she has a fun personality. I like her. I'm still sad about what they did to her in GT; she had so much life in Z where in GT she's suddenly all, I dunno, grumpy half the time, or tsundere, or something.
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He wasn't developed or explored.
You don't find him interesting.
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You don't find him interesting.
Are you beginning to see a connection or cause and effect here? Cause I sure am.
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Uub is uninteresting because he is just another Gohan with different looks; being pure-hearted, polite, and having latent potential that is awakened when he gets upset.
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Him being the reincarnation of Buu is interesting and Goku actually wanting to train him rather than his kids. There could have been a lot to do with Uub but GT happened and Toei's idea of using Uub wasn't really executed properly to make him interesting or compelling. You never know though with Toriyama being active in the dragonball world again. He could bring him back and save that potential that Uub has, make his personality better.. Also he has an awesome mohawk.
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The character has a lot of potential. A lot. Why? Because of his little screen time, origin, ethnicity, social class, and status as Goku's protege. The sky's the limit with this character. The ideas just flow when I think about him. lol.
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Yep, considering there are so many bland, uninteresting characters in the Dragon Ball world.ABED wrote:His skin color makes HIM interesting?
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He was a cool idea but not much done with him. Wish that dragon ball would have went a little longer past the Buu Saga and I'm not talking about GT.
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No idea what your talking about. If you're referring to the main characters then I have to greatly disagree with you. If you're talking about the background characters than isn't that kind of the point?Kakacarrottop wrote:Yep, considering there are so many bland, uninteresting characters in the Dragon Ball world.ABED wrote:His skin color makes HIM interesting?
Even if you were talking about the side characters I would have to disagree with you as most of the side characters were at one point main characters in Dragon Ball. Except Lunch... she just kind of disappears...
Oh also, ABED are you talking about EoZ Oob or GT Oob?
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Uub was such a facinating concept for me! I read the manga first, so when I saw Uub, I got exited! He had a unique design, and he was the reincarnation of friggin Majin Buu! Sadly, I feel like Uub was a wasted opportunity in the end, as he never really seemed to come into his own as Goku`s student. He just seemed like a way to fill some runtime in GT...
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Of course he had potential! In Toriyama's hands he could have been developed into a very interesting lead character. But he stopped before he could do that. This is the reincarnation of Majin Buu. He could potentially be stronger then Goku. Goku could have taught him all he knew and he could have been on par with or stronger then Goku for the rest of the series. He would have known all Goku's tricks like instant transmission, KameHameHa, etc. He would have become less shy and "boring" because he would have gotten to know the other characters. He could have battled with an inner demon at some point, the old Boo still being a part of him... making him leave Goku after he learns everything from him. He could have refused to actually be the replacement as Earth's savior that Goku intended. Remember, Goku said he wanted to have someone because he realized he won't be around forever. Well... what if Uub flat out told him no... AFTER being trained? Let's explore the potential some more. Maybe at some point he would not actually become evil, but because of conflict with-in himself he would choose not to be a friend to Goku or the others. What if after he found out he was the reincarnation of a being that destroyed all life on Earth he couldn't deal with it and resented Goku for telling him and ruining his life? What if he just up and left Goku during training and no matter what Goku did he couldn't convince him to train and become his equal or superior? What if there was an enemy too strong for even Goku and Uub was the only one who could stop it and because Uub deserted Goku and the others they'd have to convince him to help them stop it but he refuses? What if Uub sacrificed himself to save someone else? What if he tried to and lost an arm in the process? What if after losing his arm he eventually discovered he could regenerate like Majin Buu did? What if he wound up not being as strong as Goku hoped? What if his potential strength was a lie? What if Goku was disappointed and he was never a match for him? What if Vegeta pissed him off and in a rage unable to control all the locked away power of Kid Buu, he killed Vegeta? What if he accidentally killed Gohan during training? What if he accidentally killed Goku because he didn't know his own strength? What if he chooses death in fear of his own power and possibly turning evil because of who he was in a past life? What if he made Gohan jealous because he turned out to be more of the fighter that Goku always wanted in him? What if... what if.. what if...
He has tons of potential.
He has tons of potential.
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It was pretty annoying how at the end of Z, Goku's talking about him like he'll be the next big thing but ended up having little to no great moments in GT.
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Kid Uub is a mix of Gohan, Namu, and Buu. But I think he is a waste because we didn't see much of him in Z, and we don't know how the character would turn out if Toriyama made him a teenager. Maybe Uub would have grown up different than just another Gohan. I still wonder if Toriyama did the story for GT, if he would have fused Uub with Buu and make him do a chocolate beam?kei17 wrote:Uub is uninteresting because he is just another Gohan with different looks; being pure-hearted, polite, and having latent potential that is awakened when he gets upset.
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No, because even an under developed character who we just meet can be interesting. I was interested in Yajirobe the first time we meet him. Kuririn's introduction is very endearing and funny. GT develops Uub a tad, but he's little more than a grown up version of the sweet natured fighter we meet at the end of Z. What would you have liked to seen from the character?He wasn't developed or explored.
You don't find him interesting.
Are you beginning to see a connection or cause and effect here? Cause I sure am.
Any version.Oh also, ABED are you talking about EoZ Oob or GT Oob?
Why is his ethnicity interesting or his social class? How is his social class even important, especially in the context of DB?The character has a lot of potential. A lot. Why? Because of his little screen time, origin, ethnicity, social class, and status as Goku's protege. The sky's the limit with this character. The ideas just flow when I think about him. lol.
I'll grant to those of you that see a lot of potential that there are a number of directions to go with him, but it seems like so many thought he should be the main character just because what happens at the end of Z, and that GT is terrible in light of that fact because Goku was training his successor. That's a position I don't understand. Why does Goku training someone automatically mean that Goku's spot as the hero of the story is usurped simply because he's training someone to take over? I do wish he had been a little more useful in the fight against Baby and the Evil Dragons.
But he was resurrected with the evil gone, this just feels like an uninteresting retread and goes against who the character is, plus the whole, "I was born from evil, does that make me evil?" shtick is overdone and not that interesting to me.He could have battled with an inner demon at some point, the old Boo still being a part of him...
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For me it was interesting precisely because it has never been important. Apart from nagging Chi-Chi, humorous Mr Satan and recent OVA, characters never worried about money or anything else mundane thing- they were like those birds who neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and could have lived on roadkill as long as they could train. Goku eating his Tournament prize during one dinner or giving a pile of cash to random stranger were a way to establish his complete misunderstanding of social norms.Why is his ethnicity interesting or his social class? How is his social class even important, especially in the context of DB?
Contrast with Uub entered tournament to secure food supply for his village. At least in French version he was also fond of his siblings. That already gave reasons to think that he may be responsible, down to earth person who does know that money doesn't grow on your in-laws' trees. You could for example show that he priorities his family well being and financial security more than training. Image Goku's face when he hears that's harvest time or salmons are migrating or whatever work has to be done, so no more training for now. That is how I wanted him to be.
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And yet these exact same qualities make Gohan a super popular character, and that's not an issue? Besides, we saw Oob (disregarding GT) for all of two chapters and correspondingly two episodes I think. We have no idea what else there might be to his character aside from that tiny little bit we got.kei17 wrote:Uub is uninteresting because he is just another Gohan with different looks; being pure-hearted, polite, and having latent potential that is awakened when he gets upset.
For me, Oob's potential as a character comes from the fact that he's human, and yet, he already has the inherent potential to be just as strong as the final form of Boo, at the very least. We're talking a non-alien character that can easily stand up amongst the Saiyans/half-Saiyans that had taken over the spotlight entirely by that point. Used correctly, that could add just a fraction more diversity to the main fighting cast that would direly, direly be needed by that point in time.
And if you wanted to take the kanzenban ending into account, there's even more evidence there that Oob really seems poised to take the lead as the new main defender of the Earth eventually. Do I want to see an entire series with Oob at the helm? Not particularly; I'd be interested to check it out of course, but this is still Goku's franchise, there's no way around that. But would I like to see something further showing that Oob will eventually be the 'next generation' that Goku always wanted? Hell yeah I want that.
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Uub had an insane amount of potential. Just the fact he was a reincarnation of Majin Buu could have lead to great of character development. How he got treated in GT was such horseshit and quite possibly the main reason I hate GT so much.
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He had Buu's power, and that's it. There was nothing remotely Buu-like about the character. Did you really like him so much that you hate GT because of this? Uub could've been a strong ally, but he not the main character. I don't see this "insane amount of potential" you speak of. Maybe your reaction was different but at the end of Z, I wasn't thinking, "I wish I got to see more of that guy."Lord Beerus wrote:Uub had an insane amount of potential. Just the fact he was a reincarnation of Majin Buu could have lead to great of character development. How he got treated in GT was such horseshit and quite possibly the main reason I hate GT so much.
But is that really DB or something that would be a long term story for the show? Goku doesn't worry about his next meal because he can hunt and fish whenever he feels hungry.Contrast with Uub entered tournament to secure food supply for his village. At least in French version he was also fond of his siblings. That already gave reasons to think that he may be responsible, down to earth person who does know that money doesn't grow on your in-laws' trees. You could for example show that he priorities his family well being and financial security more than training. Image Goku's face when he hears that's harvest time or salmons are migrating or whatever work has to be done, so no more training for now. That is how I wanted him to be.
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