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Akira wanted Broly to end dbz?

Post by BrolyLSSJ » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:29 pm

I have seen a few times this has been mentioned and his producers wouldn't allow this stating
"you can't introduce a new villain during the cell games."
And so good guy akira made the broly movie

This was stated on the wikipedias but then was removed by fans and begged the admin not to place it back who else heard about this.
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Post by ImmaDeker » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:30 pm

This is correct.

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Post by Lumos » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:33 pm

BrolyLSSJ wrote:I have seen a few times this has been mentioned and his producers wouldn't allow this stating
"you can't introduce a new villain during the cell games."
And so good guy akira made the broly movie

This was stated on the wikipedias but then was removed by fans and begged the admin not to place it back who else heard about this.
I think this is my new favourite rumour.

But yeah, I'm not entirely sure there's any substance behind it since Broly is a movie only character and Toriyama had little to no involvement in those, if I'm correct.
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Post by BrolyLSSJ » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:45 pm

ImmaDeker wrote:This is correct.
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Re: Akira wanted Broly to end dbz?

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:49 pm

Lumos wrote:
BrolyLSSJ wrote:I have seen a few times this has been mentioned and his producers wouldn't allow this stating
"you can't introduce a new villain during the cell games."
And so good guy akira made the broly movie

This was stated on the wikipedias but then was removed by fans and begged the admin not to place it back who else heard about this.
I think this is my new favourite rumour.

But yeah, I'm not entirely sure there's any substance behind it since Broly is a movie only character and Toriyama had little to no involvement in those, if I'm correct.
Actually Toriyama was more involved in DBZ movie than most people know. Toei always sent him the draft of the script of every DBZ movie before they would get animated and released just so that if there were any improvements or changes to the script that needed to be made, who better to do it than Toriyama himself

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Post by Luso Saiyan » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:50 pm

BrolyLSSJ wrote:I have seen a few times this has been mentioned and his producers wouldn't allow this stating
"you can't introduce a new villain during the cell games."
And so good guy akira made the broly movie
That's completely false, not to mention that Toriyama didn't make any of the Broly movies.

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Post by Lumos » Sun Feb 01, 2015 8:52 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Actually Toriyama was more involved in DBZ movie than most people know. Toei always sent him the draft of the script of every DBZ movie before they would get animated and released just so that if there were any improvements or changes to the script that needed to be made, who better to do it than Toriyama himself
Interesting though come to think I'm sure I've heard that mentioned on this very forum/site.

Either way, glad some actual facts could come out of this thread!

ETA: This isn't a blatant troll post too, right? :wink:
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Post by Cetra » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:02 pm

Broly to end DBZ? I didn't know Broly is a mangaka.
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Post by Luso Saiyan » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:09 pm

Lumos wrote:Either way, glad some actual facts could come out of this thread
The only fact is that he gave some designs for the character, nothing more.

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Post by BrolyLSSJ » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:13 pm

Lumos wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Actually Toriyama was more involved in DBZ movie than most people know. Toei always sent him the draft of the script of every DBZ movie before they would get animated and released just so that if there were any improvements or changes to the script that needed to be made, who better to do it than Toriyama himself
Interesting though come to think I'm sure I've heard that mentioned on this very forum/site.

Either way, glad some actual facts could come out of this thread!

ETA: This isn't a blatant troll post too, right? :wink:
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Post by BrolyLSSJ » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:14 pm

Luso Saiyan wrote:
BrolyLSSJ wrote:I have seen a few times this has been mentioned and his producers wouldn't allow this stating
"you can't introduce a new villain during the cell games."
And so good guy akira made the broly movie
That's completely false, not to mention that Toriyama didn't make any of the Broly movies.
Many people will tell you I am not giving anything false as akira personally designed
Broly and Janemba.
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Post by Luso Saiyan » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:28 pm

BrolyLSSJ wrote:Many people will tell you I am not giving anything false as akira personally designed
Broly and Janemba.
So...? The fact that he gave some designs for those characters doesn't make your original statement true. Toriyama still didn't make those movies nor did he came up with its characters and storyline. That's a fact.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:28 pm

Toriyama only designed Broli, he didn't create the character, nor his story, nor did he ever plan to make him appear in the manga.
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Post by ImmaDeker » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:28 pm

Toriyama personally designed Broly but couldn't use the design for his intended, original final arc, which was about the TRUE legendary Super Saiyan finally surfacing after the Saiyans all achieved the form. Editorial prevented the storyline from going through (which is why we EVENTUALLY got Majin Buu, a storyline that ended up turning the very Super Saiyan concept Toriyama was prevented from exploring into a giant parody of itself as retaliation), so the design and basic outline of the arc was given to Toei and they turned it into a film.

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Post by Lumos » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:35 pm

BrolyLSSJ wrote:No this isn't a troll post.
Well maybe I jumped the gun on that one (sorry, if true!) but as other users have said Broly was never intended to appear in the manga. I mean surely if Toriyama wanted to include him that badly he would have skipped over Boo and made him the final antagonist of the series instead?

ETA: I see ImmaDeker has that explanation covered. :D
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:35 pm

ImmaDeker wrote:Toriyama personally designed Broly but couldn't use the design for his intended, original final arc, which was about the TRUE legendary Super Saiyan finally surfacing after the Saiyans all achieved the form. Editorial prevented the storyline from going through (which is why we EVENTUALLY got Majin Buu, a storyline that ended up turning the very Super Saiyan concept Toriyama was prevented from exploring into a giant parody of itself as retaliation), so the design and basic outline of the arc was given to Toei and they turned it into a film.
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Post by radrappy » Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:47 pm

This topic is hilarious.

No, AT never even implied that Broly was his idea or inferred that said character was to somehow "end dbz." The fanbase's attachment to this character always puzzles me; he's a muscle bound rage driven moron who can utter all of 10 words. What's to like?
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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:57 pm

Trolly Trolly Trolly Trolly Troooollllllll!!!! That's my input. Peace.
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ImmaDeker wrote:Toriyama personally designed Broly but couldn't use the design for his intended, original final arc, which was about the TRUE legendary Super Saiyan finally surfacing after the Saiyans all achieved the form. Editorial prevented the storyline from going through (which is why we EVENTUALLY got Majin Buu, a storyline that ended up turning the very Super Saiyan concept Toriyama was prevented from exploring into a giant parody of itself as retaliation), so the design and basic outline of the arc was given to Toei and they turned it into a film.
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Post by VegettoEX » Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:59 am

DarkPrince_92 wrote:Trolly Trolly Trolly Trolly Troooollllllll!!!! That's my input. Peace.
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