What's with the Oozaru roar in yells?

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What's with the Oozaru roar in yells?

Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:51 am

By the way I don't mean the Oozaru itself, I mean the little echo you hear like when Goku finishes off Boo, or when Gohan finished off Cell. It's very noticeable in the original version. I find it very intriguing, while also a little confused as to why that sound comes out of the saiyans. Does anyone else hear it in the show? Was there a reason to have this echo effect?
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Re: What's with the Oozaru roar in yells?

Post by Blade » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:04 am

dbzfan7 wrote:By the way I don't mean the Oozaru itself, I mean the little echo you hear like when Goku finishes off Boo, or when Gohan finished off Cell. It's very noticeable in the original version. I find it very intriguing, while also a little confused as to why that sound comes out of the saiyans. Does anyone else hear it in the show? Was there a reason to have this echo effect?
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Re: What's with the Oozaru roar in yells?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:05 am

Same reason it's used as a backdrop when Goku defeats Piccolo Daimao? It symbolizes their inner power.

I would also like to note that, like the backdrop, I don't think this is something that happens in-universe. It's just a fun little victory cry for us.
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Re: What's with the Oozaru roar in yells?

Post by EmmaWinters » Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:08 am

It happens once or twice in Kai, as well.
As the others have said, it's just a stylistic thing. (...of which I'm not very fond of.)
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Re: What's with the Oozaru roar in yells?

Post by Regarder » Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:05 am

dbzfan7 wrote:or when Gohan finished off Cell.
It also backs up the incredible scream when Gohan bursts into SS2.

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Re: What's with the Oozaru roar in yells?

Post by theoriginalbilis » Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:44 pm

It's a nice little touch I noticed after a couple years of watching the Japanese version.

The dub doesn't emulate this effect, because it was most likely part of the Japanese vocal track only, and not the M&E track.

As a result, except for a handful of scenes in the original Z dub, I never felt the same power or impact from the dub actors' screams, even though they were putting their all into it.

Kai's a little better, because the dub adds some nice reverb and echo effects,
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Re: What's with the Oozaru roar in yells?

Post by AnimeMaakuo » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:37 am

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dbzfan7 wrote:By the way I don't mean the Oozaru itself, I mean the little echo you hear like when Goku finishes off Boo, or when Gohan finished off Cell. It's very noticeable in the original version. I find it very intriguing, while also a little confused as to why that sound comes out of the saiyans. Does anyone else hear it in the show? Was there a reason to have this echo effect?
I guess it's just a device whereby the sound designer has tried to encode a paramusical message into the scenes, as to, presumably, sonically render primal Saiyan ancestry.
I'm not sure how Toei created those sounds during Dragon Ball Z, but here's what they did for Dragon Ball:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-F-ipK ... e=youtu.be
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Re: What's with the Oozaru roar in yells?

Post by DarkPrince_92 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:50 am

AnimeMaakuo wrote:I'm not sure how Toei created those sounds during Dragon Ball Z, but here's what they did for Dragon Ball:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-F-ipK ... e=youtu.be
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Re: What's with the Oozaru roar in yells?

Post by Attitudefan » Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:55 pm

DarkPrince_92 wrote:
AnimeMaakuo wrote:I'm not sure how Toei created those sounds during Dragon Ball Z, but here's what they did for Dragon Ball:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-F-ipK ... e=youtu.be
Good old Foley Art. I wonder how they got half the sfx they came up with.
They used a similar effect for the lion roars in The Lion King.

I wonder how they did more of the digital sounding effects like Ki blasts, sci fi sfx, and Cell's footsteps. Haha.

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Re: What's with the Oozaru roar in yells?

Post by Blade » Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:50 am

Attitudefan wrote: I wonder how they did more of the digital sounding effects like Ki blasts, sci fi sfx, and Cell's footsteps. Haha.
I imagine that sound design is all purely FM synthesis.
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Re: What's with the Oozaru roar in yells?

Post by Regarder » Wed Feb 11, 2015 7:28 am

A lot of sci fi laser sounds are done by striking cables and stuff, so DB energy shots might be something similar, though electronic frequency modulation noises are a possibility as well (especially for auras).

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Re: What's with the Oozaru roar in yells?

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Feb 11, 2015 11:30 pm

It also appears while Goku powers up for SSJ3 (I think) and when Gohan releases his full potential.

Still wonder if everyone else hears it in the anime. I also wonder who's idea it was to include the Oozaru backdrop.
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Re: What's with the Oozaru roar in yells?

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:09 pm

I originally thought this topic asked why does Funimation dub over the Oozaru Roars with weird groaning noises... which I find a problem.
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