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How much did Goku power increase after ssj god?

Post by GokuRules987 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:28 pm

My question is how much did Goku power increased after absorbing ssj god power?

Whats the difference between ssj3 Goku post battle of gods and base Goku after absorbing the godly ki.
Because i remember Akira Toriyama making a comment on how Goku, Beerus and Whis power difference from each other and on the scale Goku being 6, Beerus being 10 and Whis being 15.
When Toriyama said that, was he talking about the Goku before he became ssj god, or was he talking about the Goku after absorbing ssj god?

Because i remember clearly in the movie stating that Beerus has only used around 70 percent of his power while Goku in ssj god used around 80 percent of his power, that means Goku and Beerus have 10 percent difference in terms of power.

So then wouldn't Goku be around 9 on the scale and not 6?
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Post by singsing » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:34 pm

GokuRules987 wrote:My question is how much did Goku power increased after absorbing ssj god power?

Whats the difference between ssj3 Goku post battle of gods and base Goku after absorbing the godly ki.
Because i remember Akira Toriyama making a comment on how Goku, Beerus and Whis power difference from each other and on the scale Goku being 6, Beerus being 10 and Whis being 15.
When Toriyama said that, was he talking about the Goku before he became ssj god, or was he talking about the Goku after absorbing ssj god?

Because i remember clearly in the movie stating that Beerus has only used around 70 percent of his power while Goku in ssj god used around 80 percent of his power, that means Goku and Beerus have 10 percent difference in terms of power.

So then wouldn't Goku be around 9 on the scale and not 6?
SSG Goku = 6. Beerus @ 70% = 7.

7 > 6. Goku stopped using 80% and went full power after Beerus slowly powered up and continued to whoop his ass.

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Re: How much did Goku power increase after ssj god?

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GokuRules987 wrote:My question is how much did Goku power increased after absorbing ssj god power?

Whats the difference between ssj3 Goku post battle of gods and base Goku after absorbing the godly ki.
Because i remember Akira Toriyama making a comment on how Goku, Beerus and Whis power difference from each other and on the scale Goku being 6, Beerus being 10 and Whis being 15.
When Toriyama said that, was he talking about the Goku before he became ssj god, or was he talking about the Goku after absorbing ssj god?

Because i remember clearly in the movie stating that Beerus has only used around 70 percent of his power while Goku in ssj god used around 80 percent of his power, that means Goku and Beerus have 10 percent difference in terms of power.

So then wouldn't Goku be around 9 on the scale and not 6?
SSG Goku = 6. Beerus @ 70% = 7.

7 > 6. Goku stopped using 80% and went full power after Beerus slowly powered up and continued to whoop his ass.
I guess judging it by power multipliers is now useless, because Beerus defeated ultimate Gohan, Majin Buu, Gotenks and every z fighter including ssj3 Goku that got blinked away by Beerus, therefore 30 percent power increase wouldn't be enough to be on pair will Beerus.

Personally its best to go by feats now, which Goku pretty much lacks.
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Re: How much did Goku power increase after ssj god?

Post by Bullza » Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:13 am

It increased exponentially. Goku said that fusing wouldn't be enough to defeat Beerus, so SSJ God Goku would be stronger than SSJ3 Vegito for obvious story related and common sense reasons.

Considering that SSJ3 Goku wasn't remotely close to Super Vegito's strength and SSJ3 Vegito would be 8 times stronger than that and SSJ God Goku was even stronger than that then his strength must have multiplied several dozen times over.

If Beerus was a 10 and SSJ God Goku a 6 then at best I'd say

SSJ3 Vegito - 5
SSJ2 Vegito - 1.25
Super Vegito - 0.625
Vegito - 0.0125

How strong is SSJ3 Goku compared to base Vegito?

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Re: How much did Goku power increase after ssj god?

Post by Hugo Boss » Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:04 am

Bullza wrote:How strong is SSJ3 Goku compared to base Vegito?
My theory is that SS3 Goku is about 5 times stronger than Base Vegetto, while Super Vegetto is 10 times stronger than SS3 Goku.

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Re: How much did Goku power increase after ssj god?

Post by Low Tone G » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:55 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:
Bullza wrote:How strong is SSJ3 Goku compared to base Vegito?
My theory is that SS3 Goku is about 5 times stronger than Base Vegetto, while Super Vegetto is 10 times stronger than SS3 Goku.
You're too optimistic! I personally view Base Vegetto to be at least 2 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku.

As for the topic... Goku guessed only a fraction of Beerus' power when spoke about a fusion between himself and Vegeta. So I'd say SSJ3 Vegetto power is still nothing near Beerus' full power, which is 10 according to Toriyama. I'd say SSJ3 Vegetto is 0.1 near Beerus' 10. But that's is too optimistic if you ask me. It's near impossible to guess which is the difference between SSJ3 Goku and SSJ-God Goku, but it's sure that Goku doesn't need anymore the SSJ-God from after the absorption(stated by Toriyama himself) so I'd say Base Goku's power after the absorption is very close to his SSJ-God power, or is simply equal with it.
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Re: How much did Goku power increase after ssj god?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:02 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:
Bullza wrote:How strong is SSJ3 Goku compared to base Vegito?
My theory is that SS3 Goku is about 5 times stronger than Base Vegetto, while Super Vegetto is 10 times stronger than SS3 Goku.
Base Vegetoo is 80X that of SSJ3 Goku in my book
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Re: How much did Goku power increase after ssj god?

Post by Hugo Boss » Sat Feb 14, 2015 6:59 pm

Low Tone G wrote:You're too optimistic! I personally view Base Vegetto to be at least 2 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Base Vegetto is 80X that of SSJ3 Goku in my book.
I just don't see a reason for him to be that strong, but okay.

I guess SSGod could be 100 times stronger than one Saiyan's maximum, since Oozaru is said to be 10 times stronger.

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Post by singsing » Sat Feb 14, 2015 7:12 pm

There's absolutely no reason for gaps to be that big, but it's a lot more fun to think of it that way :P

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Re: How much did Goku power increase after ssj god?

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:02 pm

Hugo Boss wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:You're too optimistic! I personally view Base Vegetto to be at least 2 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Base Vegetto is 80X that of SSJ3 Goku in my book.
I just don't see a reason for him to be that strong, but okay.

I guess SSGod could be 100 times stronger than one Saiyan's maximum, since Oozaru is said to be 10 times stronger.
I think it works fine. At least for me.

Buu/BOG Base Goku - 100 Million

SSJ3 - 40 Billion

Base Vegetto - 3.2 trillion

Super Vegetto (and SSJ4 Goku) - 160 trillion
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Re: How much did Goku power increase after ssj god?

Post by Saiga » Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:19 pm

Low Tone G wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote:
Bullza wrote:How strong is SSJ3 Goku compared to base Vegito?
My theory is that SS3 Goku is about 5 times stronger than Base Vegetto, while Super Vegetto is 10 times stronger than SS3 Goku.
You're too optimistic! I personally view Base Vegetto to be at least 2 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku.
I don't see any reason for why that has to be the case. Personally, I have things very similar to Huge Boss, with Super Vegetto being just under 10 times stronger than SS3 Goku. And that leaves him plenty of room to demolish Super Boo.
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Post by singsing » Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:22 pm

Saiga wrote:
I don't see any reason for why that has to be the case. Personally, I have things very similar to Huge Boss, with Super Vegetto being just under 10 times stronger than SS3 Goku. And that leaves him plenty of room to demolish Super Boo.
Yea, people tend to forget the tiniest of gaps later on in the series is enough to absolute stomp their opponent. But big gaps are more fun and let us wank more so why not :P

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Post by GokuRules987 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:52 pm

Low Tone G wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote:
Bullza wrote:How strong is SSJ3 Goku compared to base Vegito?
My theory is that SS3 Goku is about 5 times stronger than Base Vegetto, while Super Vegetto is 10 times stronger than SS3 Goku.
You're too optimistic! I personally view Base Vegetto to be at least 2 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku.

As for the topic... Goku guessed only a fraction of Beerus' power when spoke about a fusion between himself and Vegeta. So I'd say SSJ3 Vegetto power is still nothing near Beerus' full power, which is 10 according to Toriyama. I'd say SSJ3 Vegetto is 0.1 near Beerus' 10. But that's is too optimistic if you ask me. It's near impossible to guess which is the difference between SSJ3 Goku and SSJ-God Goku, but it's sure that Goku doesn't need anymore the SSJ-God from after the absorption(stated by Toriyama himself) so I'd say Base Goku's power after the absorption is very close to his SSJ-God power, or is simply equal with it.
You do realize that ssj3 Goku was barely winning against fat buu. The super buu was suppost to be stronger than ssj3 Goku and after he absorbed Gotenks and Mystic Gohan he would become atleast 20-30 times more powerful than Goku in ssj3. During potara fusion ofcourse Vegito was able to easily match up against Buuhan and even surpass him in the strength while in his base form, and in the super saiyan form he was toying around with him. and i dont think Vegito ever got a chance too show his true limits, cause he never took the fight too seriously.

Now in the battle of gods. it was stated that fusing wouldnt be enought to beat Beerus, Does that mean that if Goku and Vegeta fused and became ssj3 Vegito, they wouldn't be able to beat Beerus?

That means ssj god goku > ssj 3 vegito which makes ssj god goku easily a galaxy buster at that point.
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Post by singsing » Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:59 pm

GokuRules987 wrote:
You do realize that ssj3 Goku was barely winning against fat buu. The super buu was suppost to be stronger than ssj3 Goku and after he absorbed Gotenks and Mystic Gohan he would become atleast 20-30 times more powerful than Goku in ssj3. During potara fusion ofcourse Vegito was able to easily match up against Buuhan and even surpass him in the strength while in his base form, and in the super saiyan form he was toying around with him. and i dont think Vegito ever got a chance too show his true limits, cause he never took the fight too seriously.

Now in the battle of gods. it was stated that fusing wouldnt be enought to beat Beerus, Does that mean that if Goku and Vegeta fused and became ssj3 Vegito, they wouldn't be able to beat Beerus?

That means ssj god goku > ssj 3 vegito which makes ssj god goku easily a galaxy buster at that point.
base vegito>ssj4 goku
Goku was handily stomping Fat Buu without full effort.

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Post by GokuRules987 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:04 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
Hugo Boss wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:You're too optimistic! I personally view Base Vegetto to be at least 2 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku.
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Base Vegetto is 80X that of SSJ3 Goku in my book.
I just don't see a reason for him to be that strong, but okay.

I guess SSGod could be 100 times stronger than one Saiyan's maximum, since Oozaru is said to be 10 times stronger.
I think it works fine. At least for me.

Buu/BOG Base Goku - 100 Million

SSJ3 - 40 Billion

Base Vegetto - 3.2 trillion

Super Vegetto (and SSJ4 Goku) - 160 trillion
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ssj4 goku is 4000 times stronger than ssj3 goku?
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Post by GokuRules987 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:10 pm

singsing wrote:
GokuRules987 wrote:
You do realize that ssj3 Goku was barely winning against fat buu. The super buu was suppost to be stronger than ssj3 Goku and after he absorbed Gotenks and Mystic Gohan he would become atleast 20-30 times more powerful than Goku in ssj3. During potara fusion ofcourse Vegito was able to easily match up against Buuhan and even surpass him in the strength while in his base form, and in the super saiyan form he was toying around with him. and i dont think Vegito ever got a chance too show his true limits, cause he never took the fight too seriously.

Now in the battle of gods. it was stated that fusing wouldnt be enought to beat Beerus, Does that mean that if Goku and Vegeta fused and became ssj3 Vegito, they wouldn't be able to beat Beerus?

That means ssj god goku > ssj 3 vegito which makes ssj god goku easily a galaxy buster at that point.
base vegito>ssj4 goku
Goku was handily stomping Fat Buu without full effort.
So did vegeta at the beggining. Fat Buu has pretty slow reaction and he wasent even taking ssj3 goku seriously. His durability proved that he was able to take ssj3 goku punches and easily recover from them. If goku really tried, he could have beat buu but their difference in strength wasent that big to be considered an easy stump.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:11 pm

Well as I posted, Base Buu/BOG Goku is 100 million

Then we got his GT Base > Z SSJ3

So his GT Base is at least 40 Billion and we got X4000 from SSJ4

40 Billion X 4000 = 160 trillion
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Post by GokuRules987 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:29 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Well as I posted, Base Buu/BOG Goku is 100 million

Then we got his GT Base > Z SSJ3

So his GT Base is at least 40 Billion and we got X4000 from SSJ4

40 Billion X 4000 = 160 trillion
I was on yahoo answers japan and i found out that majority of japanese dragon ball fans agree that goku ssj1 is 50x from his base, ssj2 is 100x from his base and ssj3 is 400x from his base form.

That makes goku ssj3 power level 1,200,000,000 and thats if your comparing goku from base form power level of 3 million only.


SSJ = x50

SSJ2 = x2 of SSJ or 100x Base form

SSJ3 = x4 of SSJ3 or 400x Base form
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:40 pm

Three million multiplied by four hundred is only 1.2 billion.
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Post by GokuRules987 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:56 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Three million multiplied by four hundred is only 1.2 billion.
Yeah my bad, i miss counted, but atleast we know that 1.2 billion the minimum that Goku could have in ssj3. obviously Goku went thru yardrat, android time skip, hyperbolic time chamber and 7 years in after life training. his base power level would have increased by that time.

This also makes sense because ssj Gogeta power level is 2.5 billion which is more than twice the power of Goku ssj3.
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