dbzfan7 wrote:Trunks, Goten, and I'm pretty sure Piccolo may know of him. The boys especially since they could see him clear as day The others who were brainwashed by him may have had to face him first, or not.
I mean it's very unlikely they'll mention Demigra outside of these games, as there's no real desire to make them fit along side the series as canonical. It's merely a scenario made as fan service for us. It's highly unlikely they will count the events of Xenoverse.
Speaking of time, if the scrolls don't split up the timeline, how come no one remembers you? No one goes "Hey I saw that person before" or "Hey you helped me out back then". That I don't know if it's a plothole or not.
I just find it odd no one has heard of her. Her job is so important, yet none of the gods are aware of her existence or know she might exist. I guess they were never asked, but then Appule could have a super strong brother no one asked about either.
Perhaps something happens with history and the memories of those affected when it's corrected and the TIme Kaioshin does the scroll fixing thing? Perhaps the stuff that shouldn't have happened gets extracted and returns things to normal, and the temporary distortion that causes is what causes the Parallel Quests/Runaway Time Fragments to splinter off? It's mentioned they occur because the history changing causes the scroll to start to split and then it returns back to normal once history is corrected (unlike normal time machine splits). I don't really know. It's never really mentioned how all this works anyway with the timelines and possessions. I love the game, and it's a pretty good story considering some of the previous bullshit we've went through (Shin Budokai 2), but they didn't get super detailed on some of the stuff they could have (and should have IMO).
Agreed. If I can make it work for myself without it getting too out of hand, I will. The series itself and subsequent material all have some sort of inconsistencies, so I can accept some if they aren't too big. Though what counts as big will vary by individual taste.
Kind of leading back to the first paragraph, this is why I wonder if the TIme Kaioshin's scroll antics don't return the timeline back to what we know from the normal series once things are corrected enough to keep events flowing as they should? Because none of the main series characters recognize you, but future Trunks clearly does. You go back to save him from 17 and 18, and then he remembers you when you you return to stop Cell. When the mission is over and you came back to Toki Toki City, he has memories of you from the past and thanks you for helping. So maybe since Trunks was part of the TIme Patrol, the Time Kaioshin didn't do his time magic voodoo to return it back to the normal we knew?
Well, I wouldn't say it's a plothole, but maybe it is getting a little overused to some people? It's notable Dragon Ball fashion to have some new thing introduced that either no one has heard of, that they've never seen/interacted with personally or never mentioned until they're relevant. Especially gods. Kami didn't mention Kaio till the right time in the Saiyan Arc, Kaio didn't mention Dai Kaio till they went there (in the anime atleast), Piccolo freaks out over Kaioshin being a thing and even Kaio is has his own "that's the kaioshin?!" episode despite them both being Shinjin, etc. There's always the option that just no one asked before now and so it was never brought up, but I guess the Time Kaioshin's position may be important for the universe, but perhaps that doesn't mean it needs to be well known? Like I said last post, the game says she's "always" been alone (except Toki Toki). Perhaps it was initially believed the less people that know the better (Demigra fro DBXV, Mira in DBO)? It's possible that her realm and position are just so remote that last time she interacted with any other gods was way before the current generation of Kaio and Kaioshin, so her and her role became...lost to time? Hence why Beerus and Whis know her, and the Elder Kaioshin might too if he wasn't sealed by Beerus before Demigra attacked?
I personally don't have a problem with her just being a god that was never mentioned till she needed to be. I'm sure there are a few more out there too. Not like a full Greek pantheon or anything, just maybe one or two others for some of the bigger things in a similar vein to creation, destruction, time, etc. I also wouldn't be surprised if there were a god for each of the twelve universes (Uchushin?) and one that watches over those gods (Dai Uchushin?).