Vegeta's sacrifice

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Vegeta's sacrifice

Post by Kishido » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:14 am

Still my favourite scene of the whole manga. But one thing bothers me after the talk with Piccolo?

He should know that Bulma and Co would trie to revive him with the DBs... So would he as Goku deny being revived by the DBs cuz of all the sins he has done? Would fit in with the speech to seetle the core with Goku just once.

But now WHAT IF... Goku would have been revived... How could Vegeta possibly know that and if they would have asked Shenron to revive Vegeta would you think Vegeta would still deny it?

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Re: Vegeta's sacrifice

Post by ZazamPow » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:19 am

That's a good question. Assume Vegeta's Final Explosion actually did finish Buu off and the threat was over right then, there wasn't actually anything stopping him from being revived. I never thought about this before. I mean he did kill all those people at the tournament, but I don't think that would have stopped Bulma and Co. from forgiving him, she was his wife(?) after all.
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Re: Vegeta's sacrifice

Post by FoolsGil » Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:15 am

ZazamPow wrote:That's a good question. Assume Vegeta's Final Explosion actually did finish Buu off and the threat was over right then, there wasn't actually anything stopping him from being revived. I never thought about this before. I mean he did kill all those people at the tournament, but I don't think that would have stopped Bulma and Co. from forgiving him, she was his wife(?) after all.
Yeah. For better or for worst, he would be forgiven. :problem:

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Re: Vegeta's sacrifice

Post by Rocketman » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:28 am

Shenron already revived Vegeta at the end of the Namek Arc. He can't be revived again.

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Re: Vegeta's sacrifice

Post by Kishido » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:36 am

Rocketman wrote:Shenron already revived Vegeta at the end of the Namek Arc. He can't be revived again.
Hello friends at Name with Porunga... You know the dragon who was used at the Majin Buu saga as well

And this isn't even the whole point of the thread

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Re: Vegeta's sacrifice

Post by RealtreeByGod » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:13 am

Kishido wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Shenron already revived Vegeta at the end of the Namek Arc. He can't be revived again.
Hello friends at Name with Porunga... You know the dragon who was used at the Majin Buu saga as well

And this isn't even the whole point of the thread
Which would go over real well probably.

"Hey Namekians! Can we borrow your dragon balls?"

"Oh no, who died? Krillin again? Piccolo?"

"No, Vegeta."

"You mean that guy who slaughtered an entire village to get a dragonball?"

"Yeah"

"Well how'd he die?"

"Oh, he let himself be possessed by an alien wizard, blew up a stadium full of people, knocked out Goku, and blew himself up"

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Re: Vegeta's sacrifice

Post by Kishido » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:38 am

Porunga revived him after all but still not the point. The question is would Vegeta deny it as Goku has done... Or his whole dialogue with Piccolo would make no sense if he knew the possibility of being revived.

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Re: Vegeta's sacrifice

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:02 am

RealtreeByGod wrote:
Kishido wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Shenron already revived Vegeta at the end of the Namek Arc. He can't be revived again.
Hello friends at Name with Porunga... You know the dragon who was used at the Majin Buu saga as well

And this isn't even the whole point of the thread
Which would go over real well probably.

"Hey Namekians! Can we borrow your dragon balls?"

"Oh no, who died? Krillin again? Piccolo?"

"No, Vegeta."

"You mean that guy who slaughtered an entire village to get a dragonball?"

"Yeah"

"Well how'd he die?"

"Oh, he let himself be possessed by an alien wizard, blew up a stadium full of people, knocked out Goku, and blew himself up"
Beautiful. :clap:

On-topic - No, Vegeta would not deny because he wouldn't have a choice. Goku kept his body when he died and could see what the others were up to thanks to King Kai. Vegeta would be in hell, only conscious of his reality there. For example, we see in F that Frieza has no idea he's about to be revived before he is.
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Re: Vegeta's sacrifice

Post by Kishido » Sat Mar 28, 2015 3:30 pm

So the talk actually was just for drama

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Re: Vegeta's sacrifice

Post by Rocketman » Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:24 pm

Kishido wrote:So the talk actually was just for drama
It was because he knew he couldn't be revived.

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Re: Vegeta's sacrifice

Post by Logan » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:14 pm

I still don't understand why Vegeta turned to stone when he tried destroying Boo in the blast.
There is no Dragon Ball canon.

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Re: Vegeta's sacrifice

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:32 pm

Logan wrote:I still don't understand why Vegeta turned to stone when he tried destroying Boo in the blast.
Dramatic effect.

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Re: Vegeta's sacrifice

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:44 am

Logan wrote:I still don't understand why Vegeta turned to stone when he tried destroying Boo in the blast.
It seems more like his body turned into ashes to me.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Vegeta's sacrifice

Post by Dorexx » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:46 am

Logan wrote:I still don't understand why Vegeta turned to stone when he tried destroying Boo in the blast.
I think it's most likely because of Babidi's magic/majin spell. The "statue" was floating in the air for a bit and obviously Vegeta was in no shape to maintain himself with his ki.
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