What are your personal Fan theories?

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What are your personal Fan theories?

Post by jcogginsa » Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:48 pm

What are your favorite fan theories about Dragonball? This thread is for theories from an in-universe perspective, so we'll ignore the fact that Toriyama planned very little ahead.

Here's a few of mine

-Goten was named after either Muten Roshi or the Ox King (or both, with Goten being the Ox King's real name)
-Uranai Baba cannot arrange a day back from the afterlife if she herself dies
-Cooler used Instant Transmission to escape from Earth's sun
-Doctor Gero's son (whom android 16 is based on) was named Emerald

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Post by TJVY » Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:58 pm

I love the concept of this topic and look forward to reading some of the theories that fans have conjured up for their favourite characters, thanks for making this. I often find myself theorizing things that could have happened to 17 and 18 off screen.

I think that after she fled the lookout she tried to find 17 but to no avail, I then believe that she would have reflected upon the sacrifices the Z Fighters made for her even though she wasn't alongside them which I think is what may have triggered her to switch sides and instead wait at Roshi's for Krillin to return.
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Post by Dorexx » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:17 am

Baba is in fact dead. Her hat is hiding the halo. :?
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Post by xJeffx » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:37 am

Dr Gero and and Dr Briefs study under Dr. Wheelo when they were young.

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Post by sintzu » Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:33 am

Vegeta reached Ssj3 before BOG but due to it's draw backs he decided not to use it against Beerus.

There could have been more Saiyans on missions while Planet Vegeta was being destroyed.

The real reason Whis is training Goku&Vegeta is to help him and Beerus with something.
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Post by Darkprince410 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:44 am

Cell has a secondary, redundant nucleus located within his lower torso that only activates to regenerate once connection to the primary nucleus is severed. Given that Cell seemingly has insect genetic material that makes up his being (it's established that he's got the material of various organisms, and his early forms are clearly insect based), and insects are capable of surviving for certain periods of time with their heads no longer attached, I think that his body is designed to maintain function long enough for that secondary nucleus to activate and regenerate any damage. Eventually, it'd form a new primary nucleus and would then deactivate upon completion of it.

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Post by Saiga » Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:59 am

Was just thinking of this today...

*Battle of Gods is Beerus' prophetic dream. When he actually wakes up, he'll go to Earth only to find not everything was accurate, and there's no such thing as Super Saiyan God. Whis teases him about how his prophecy was wrong, so Beerus starts clinging to the things he was right about (character interactions and what-have-you). When the time comes to destroy Earth, he easily defeats everyone, then remembers he spared Earth in his dream. In order to stick it to Whis, he spares Earth so he can say most of his dream still came true. Good old stubborn Beerus.

*Meanwhile, Resurrection F is Freeza's nightmare in Hell:
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Re: What are your personal Fan theories?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:37 am

Vegeta will never be as good as Goku because of two reasons:
The first is that Goku is just better, as Vegeta admits himself.
The second is that since he's a dick, he is unable to access the infinite wellspring of Shonen Bullshit power (TM).

Episode of Bardock and the Bardock Special are delusional fantasies dreamt up by Bardock during Minus as an escape from the tedium of the life of a worthless low-class Saiyan. He in fact gets so delusional, he tries to follow through on the dream of what happened at the end of the special, and flies into space to confront Freeza, and suffocates to death because his imaginary brilliant scientist friend forgot to tell him that he can't breathe in space. Freeza notes this, laughs, and blows up the planet in order to prevent this kind of stupidity from spreading and destroying his empire.

The first 9 Toei movies are bedtime stories that Bulma came up with to tell Trunks.

The latter 4 are movie concepts that Chi-Chi came up with to sell to a movie studio because Goku ate away all her dad's money.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:44 am

Bardock is Turles long lost brother.

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Post by Eire » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:02 pm

Zarbon and Dodoria were responsible for accounting, preparing deals, hiring specialists, dealing with buyers and other mundane paperwork required in such a great business. For anyone, besides inner circle it looked like Freeza was running everything, but his interest ended with daily question about money. That's why Frieza preferred to take revenge than going on with his own life- he had no clue about affairs.

Paragas held similar position in King Vegeta's court. That would explain why weak warrior had a direct access to the king and how he supported himself and his son after the planed exploded (because like Potters he didn't keep his money in the house).

Saiyan society has gender equality but lived in same-sex houses like some South American tribes. Mothers raised daughters, fathers took care of the sons and child had only one recognised parent. That would explain why nobody mentioned Vegeta's and Brolly's mums. Entering other gender's home was seen as rude (at best) so all mating activities took place outside. If you were interested in someone, you offered him leather gloves, preferably from the enemy you personally skinned alive- if he decided to wear the next day it was a sing that you can prepare for babymaking. Bardock and Gine were treated like perverted hipsters and never spoken of in polite society.
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Re: What are your personal Fan theories?

Post by jcogginsa » Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:05 pm

-Raditz was made Vegeta's partner because Bardock had a reputation as a strong warrior among the low classes, not because of anything he himself did.

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Re: What are your personal Fan theories?

Post by Zephyr » Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:54 pm

Pretty much all of the movies occur in splinter timelines created by careless time patrollers and/or time breakers from Xenoverse and DBO.

The Bardock TV Special and GT are part of the original major continuity, but thanks to the time breakers, Episode of Bardock happens. This creates an alternate major continuity where instead Minus, Battle of Gods, and Resurrection F happen. We see the reflection of this in the real world: Episode of Bardock came out, and then things that don't exactly mesh with the Bardock TV Special and GT came out.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:35 pm

The Super Saiyan God ritual stole Gohan's Ultimate state properties, and handed them to Goku. Once they redid the ritual for Vegeta, Goku shared those properties with him. That's why Gohan is stuck with Super Saiyan again.
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Re: What are your personal Fan theories?

Post by Dayspring » Tue Mar 31, 2015 4:59 pm

Zephyr wrote:Pretty much all of the movies occur in splinter timelines created by careless time patrollers and/or time breakers from Xenoverse and DBO.
For what it's worth, movie 12 shares continuity with 1, 2, 3, 4, 8 and 9. Meanwhile, 5 shares continuity with 3 and 4, while 6 is its sequel and 10 and 11 are sequels to 8. In other words, the first 12 Z movies except for movie 7 are flat-out the same alternate timeline.


As for my own theories:
-Onio survived being killed because Kuriza was supposed to kill him, but instead lied to Freeza and kept him as a pet while he was a kid. Because he's so strong and Onio's so weak, Kuriza kept nearly killing him by accident. The constant zenkais are why Onio can go SSJ2.

-I mentioned this in another thread, but I believe Tarble is the plothole low-level Saiyan that Raditz talked about. The idea is that numerous Saiyans were off-world for whatever reasons, so they wouldn't need to "escape" Planet Vegeta's destruction. Over the decades, all these Saiyans are either killed off (most early on by Freeza's orders) or assumed dead (Onio, Tarble, Goku).

-Trunks warning about #19 and #20 instead of #17 and #18 isn't a plothole, but rather we're seeing the unknown fourth timeline and that's the original timeline warning of the androids in his timeline. It makes sense because without the warning to train for three years, Piccolo and Vegeta should have fallen to #19 and #20.

-Cell travelling to 763 instead of 767 or later is because he didn't pilot the time machine, so it just went back in time until it ran out of energy. Once it did, it just "popped" back into the timeline.

-Movie 7's flashback scene being different from both the anime and the manga is because it's the unseen fourth timeline. The lack of Cell means they never would have learned there was a sub-basement, while the movie itself explains why androids #13, #14 and #15 are re-activated in the sub-basement. The lack of strength on the part of everybody is because they destroyed the androids (#17 and #18) with the remote like Daizenshuu 7 explains for the fourth timeline instead of training in ROSAT.

-The lack of a time-travelling Cell and #16 in Trunks' timeline is because #16 self-destructed in order to kill imperfect Cell before the latter could assimilate #17 and #18.

-Gohan never training made him lose his "mystic" form.
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Post by Angelus » Tue Mar 31, 2015 5:34 pm

- Gero chose 18 and 17 because he probably had a thing for 18.. looking all young and sexy. 17 was around her all the time so he took him too. He needed 2 people to turn into Androids anyways. He had his way with 18 while she was deactivated... which explains why her reproductive system still functions. giggity giggity

- USSJ makes your dick huge

- Bulma had sex with Vegeta as a SSJ because she likes it rough

- Future Trunks will die once Dabura and Babidi arrives

- Using a weapon like a sword gives the user a significant advantage in comparison to not having a weapon. Goku actually got pissed that Spike the Devilman used a weapon against him so he one-shotted Spike.

- Yamcha can tell Puar to transform into any dream girl he likes and then start banging

- Rage Theory

- Human-Saiyan hybrids are so strong because whatever damage the "human part" may consider serious would get zenkai'd by the "Saiyan part". Your human DNA says that getting stabbed is a super serious injury. Saiyan DNA doesn't as it considers huge ki blasts and serious impalement as a super serious injury. However, the Saiyan DNA gives a zenkai for smaller injuries. I'm not quite sure if I'm explaining the idea properly, sorry. XD

- Bulma and Yamcha banged a lot way before Vegeta was in the picture

- Goku would be great in bed because he can read minds by touching someone's head (the same way he read Krillin/Gohan's mind on Namek). So he would know how Chi Chi likes it better.

- If a Saiyan has a small dick, he can compensate with his much longer tail

- Whis is gay

- Kid Buu was an out of control God of Destruction

- Beerus trapped Old Kai in the Z sword, long before Beerus was trained by Whis... which is why Old Kai says that the one who trapped him wasn't as strong as Kid Buu.

- Blonde Launch and Tien has banged before

- Roshi would have peeped at 18 a lot since she lives in the same household as him. Probably sniffs and cums on her underwear when she isn't around. He'll do the same with Marron when she grows up.

- Bra may be slutty like Bulma

- the 4 Kai's used a spell to trap Bojack but they wouldn't have been able to beat him if they fought him head on

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Re: What are your personal Fan theories?

Post by Deathbringer » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:03 pm

Kame house was a gift to Roshi from the Ox King

Freeza once got a gym membership and if he had used it he would have beaten Goku easily.

Dr Briefs and Dr Gero were old classmates

Chaotzu comes from a race of beings that simply take longer to age physically...much longer

Yamcha has lived in the desert since he was a kid left all alone to fend for himself, he actually prefers living outback compared to the city

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Re: What are your personal Fan theories?

Post by rereboy » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:11 pm

Angelus wrote:
- Future Trunks will die once Dabura and Babidi arrives
Babidi arrived when Trunks was a kid. In the world of Future Trunks, Trunks is an adult and that time has long passed. So, if Babidi went to Earth in that timeline (and there's no reason to assume he didn't), he probably just left the planet with Buu's ball or was somehow successfully killed by Kaioshin.

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Re: What are your personal Fan theories?

Post by jcogginsa » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:18 pm

my theory is that Babidi didn't sense the androids energy. Subsequently, he doesn't go to Earth till after Trunks kills them. Trunks unlocks super saiyan 2 to defeat Dabura.

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Re: What are your personal Fan theories?

Post by Basaku » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:28 pm

sintzu wrote:There could have been more Saiyans on missions while Planet Vegeta was being destroyed.
Always been a good and logical fan theory, but isn't it full canon now with Tarble's debut?

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Post by rereboy » Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:32 pm

jcogginsa wrote:my theory is that Babidi didn't sense the androids energy. Subsequently, he doesn't go to Earth till after Trunks kills them. Trunks unlocks super saiyan 2 to defeat Dabura.
Why he went to Earth has nothing to do with anything that happened on Earth. Babidi learned that Buu's ball was on Earth, that's why he went there. The androids being victorious or not shouldn't change that. However, the planet having much less life thanks to the androids could make Babidi decide to leave the planet with Buu's ball instead of staying there and trying to collect energy. After that is anybody's guess... Maybe Kaioshin managed to kill Babidi before he freed Buu. Maybe Buu got out and killed Babidi and just does whatever he likes on a random planet of the universe, eventually settling down, like he was kind of doing on Earth after killing Babidi.

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