Characters you want to keep up with the core characters

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Characters you want to keep up with the core characters

Post by TJVY » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:49 am

No matter how ridiculously impossible it may be now, which single character would you like to catch up with Goku and Vegeta?

For me it's a no brainer and Piccolo takes the cake.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Apr 16, 2015 2:59 am

I don't even have to say it, people who know me already know my pick. I don't even think I have to re-explain either as I've done that enough already.

Though honestly besides that, I'll take anyone...or no one if that means we'll get a spin off or side special staring anyone else....literally anyone. I'll take anyone. I'll take Beerus, Whis, Yamcha, Muten Roshi, Mr. Satan, anyone that rips the attention from them and hands it to someone else. I don't care who, just not those 2.
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Post by SansrivaaL » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:53 am

As for me tho I know its very impossible and unlikely to happen, I want Master Roshi. Next Piccolo and Gohan.

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Post by Diotor » Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:04 am

Piccolo or Gohan.

Vegeta and Goku have surely had their time as the focus of the story.

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Post by FoolsGil » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:04 am

Well I would like it done like One Piece actually. Krillin may not be able to keep up with Goku, but at least once every two sagas he has a villain at his own level to overcome.

But keeping in with the thread, Piccolo, and Tenshinhan's Kikoho.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:39 pm

Piccolo, Gohan and #18.

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Post by ZombieVito » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:07 pm

Piccolo deserves it. He's the only one left of the trio that always trains.

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Post by Cetra » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:40 pm

Gohan should be shown as that he still can do it, other than that Piccolo should be shown to get a good deal stronger.
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Post by Marco Polo » Thu Apr 16, 2015 1:46 pm

Gohan. Mr. Satan's master returns as a zombie and kidnaps Pan, angering Gohan and making him regain his SSJ2/Ultimate/whatever power.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Apr 16, 2015 5:19 pm

I'm apparently in the minority here, but I'm actually fine with Gohan 'retiring' as the only time I ever really enjoyed his character (though he was pretty cool during the Cell Games) was during the Boo arc. By that point it had become clear, at least in my eyes, that the kid just didn't take to fighting the same way the other Saiyans did, despite having an ungodly talent for it. He deserves to have a more laid back peaceful life if that's what he so wishes.

Now that aside, I definitely wish #18 had gotten to keep up at least long enough to have a fight on the side of good. If I was going to make a crazy potshot dream, of course I'd say Kuririn. But thinking about who's more likely...I guess Piccolo. Actually, you know what? I'm gonna say both Piccolo AND Kuririn. Piccolo to show that not everyone has to be a Saiyan to be capable of staying relevant, and Kuririn to show that not everyone has to be an alien at all to stay relevant.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:55 am

Kuririn, Tenshinhan, and Yamcha.

Remember how excited they were in the past to train & surpass Goku? And then remember how Goku and the rest of the Saiyans drove them to retirement...? Poor guys.
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Post by singsing » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:59 am

Piccolo was so close to doing it during the Cell Games... then his hugely amped attacks and supposed near Vegeta status crumbles when only Vegeta can be the one who can surprise attack and distract Cell. Then he gets nerfed to oblivion when the next arc starts. He deserves his moment again dammit.

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Post by Berserker1921 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:00 am

Piccolo. And the human z warriors. Gohan has had his day in the son. And every time he gets great power he becomes a sadistic sob and seeks to torture his enemy. And usually comes to bite him in his ass. Piccolo has always been a cool character. I loved his battle android 17. I just wish he get a massive power up and train with the heroes.

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Post by Pantalones » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:19 am

Yeah, I think the obvious answer here is Piccolo. He'd been keeping up with the Saiyans fairly well up until the Cell Games (being near Vegeta and Trunks then) and he never stops training so there'd be no reason for him not to keep moving up from that point... but SSj2 and especially SSj3, Mystic/Ultimate, Super Saiyan God, and so on just made it impossible for him to stay on the same level power-wise.

And for a more unorthodox answer: Buu and/or Uub. Fat Buu should still be at least on the upper end of SSj2 level (I think "Mr. Buu" might actually be stronger than the initial "Good Buu" after the split -- considering that Super Buu's main body seems to have basically been Kid Buu grown up while Fat Buu was tucked away in a pot, he must be more Kaioshin than Buu now, so rather than being held back by the Kaioshins' power as much as before he might be able to bring out more of it... not the full power of South + Dai Kaioshin, of course, otherwise he'd have been beating Kid Buu in their fight!... but not held back by their power as much as the original "Good Buu" was), which makes him the strongest non-Saiyan by a pretty good margin, and his weird magic abilities are super useful so he doesn't even need to be an active fighter to have an important role if you set things up the right way.
And then there's Uub... with base Goku being absurdly strong now, it seems pretty clear at this point that Uub is intended to have Kid Buu's power as his "starting/untrained" amount of dormant power (like his equivalent to the 1307 or whatever Gohan powered up to when he got angry at Raditz) rather than his full potential, so who knows how insanely huge his actual full potential might be.

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Post by Berserker1921 » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:27 am

Pantalones wrote:Yeah, I think the obvious answer here is Piccolo. He'd been keeping up with the Saiyans fairly well up until the Cell Games (being near Vegeta and Trunks then) and he never stops training so there'd be no reason for him not to keep moving up from that point... but SSj2 and especially SSj3, Mystic/Ultimate, Super Saiyan God, and so on just made it impossible for him to stay on the same level power-wise.

And for a more unorthodox answer: Buu and/or Uub. Fat Buu should still be at least on the upper end of SSj2 level (I think "Mr. Buu" might actually be stronger than the initial "Good Buu" after the split -- considering that Super Buu's main body seems to have basically been Kid Buu grown up while Fat Buu was tucked away in a pot, he must be more Kaioshin than Buu now, so rather than being held back by the Kaioshins' power as much as before he might be able to bring out more of it... not the full power of South + Dai Kaioshin, of course, otherwise he'd have been beating Kid Buu in their fight!... but not held back by their power as much as the original "Good Buu" was), which makes him the strongest non-Saiyan by a pretty good margin, and his weird magic abilities are super useful so he doesn't even need to be an active fighter to have an important role if you set things up the right way.
And then there's Uub... with base Goku being absurdly strong now, it seems pretty clear at this point that Uub is intended to have Kid Buu's power as his "starting/untrained" amount of dormant power (like his equivalent to the 1307 or whatever Gohan powered up to when he got angry at Raditz) rather than his full potential, so who knows how insanely huge his actual full potential might be.
Yeah fat buu has unlimited potential. I wanted to write a topic that he is potentially the most powerful character in the series. I am sure if he trained he could boost up to unimaginable heights and he can absorb people. But I think uub will be that character. He will be stronger then goku I think. But his story is set. After dbz. He will be stronger then goku.

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Post by Diotor » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:22 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Kuririn, Tenshinhan, and Yamcha.

Remember how excited they were in the past to train & surpass Goku? And then remember how Goku and the rest of the Saiyans drove them to retirement...? Poor guys.
Perhaps a story when Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and the other Saiyans leave Earth to fight an enemy and whilst they are away another force tries to attack in their absence leaving Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Chiaozu, Krillin, Yajirobe and #18 to defeat them?

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Post by singsing » Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:26 am

Diotor wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Kuririn, Tenshinhan, and Yamcha.

Remember how excited they were in the past to train & surpass Goku? And then remember how Goku and the rest of the Saiyans drove them to retirement...? Poor guys.
Perhaps a story when Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo and the other Saiyans leave Earth to fight an enemy and whilst they are away another force tries to attack in their absence leaving Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Chiaozu, Krillin, Yajirobe and #18 to defeat them?
Considering the "too boring not enough fight" response the public gave to BoG, something like that wouldn't sell much, but would be so damn interesting.

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Post by sintzu » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:07 am

Gohan&Piccolo can get as strong as them if they wanted and are both extreme bad asses when they want to.

Will it happen ? I hope so but I don't think it will,I think this'll be a Goku&Vegeta arc from beginning to end which is OK with me cause they're my favorite characters but I would like to see some changes down the road.
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Post by Doctor. » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:23 am

Beerus and Whis (and any new characters newly introduced). I don't want Goku and Vegeta to surpass these two easily just like they've done in the past to everyone else and then make these two characters the bottom of the barrel in terms of usefulness.

I think it has been established at this point that the humans are never gonna catch up again, and rightfully so, if they do happen to be useful once more, it'd probably be a half-assed excuse and cheap power-up. Same with Piccolo. Gohan, Goten and Trunks are a different story as they can perform the ritual at any time and be at a level similar to Goku and Vegeta (or superior, hello there SSGSS Gotenks), but it has also been established that they don't care to train or have an urge to get increasingly more powerful like their fathers do, so unless those power-ups serve as character development, as in, they embrace the fact that they have to keep training in order to uphold the peace (development that I've been waiting for Gohan for 2 whole arcs now), then I'd rather they remain weak.

If Future Trunks returns (something I highly, HIGHLY doubt), then I'd very much love for him to be given the SSJG power as well and catch up to Goku and Veggie.

Oh and I want Oob and Pan to do something too, if the series ever goes beyond the 28th TB.

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Post by Angelus » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:28 am

Well, I still consider Piccolo as a core character, so not him. My pick would be Tien then. The guy has the same drive to train but just can't catch up.

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