Ideas for a DB series to replace GT?

[Streamer255]

I was planning to post this before I heard that a new Dragon Ball series called "Dragon Ball Super" is in development, and I'm Super-hyped for it! I thought it'd be best to not let this post go to waste:

Most of us can agree that Dragon Ball GT was crap, even though some people accept it as canon in their fan works. So, I thought we can share our ideas for a series that replaces GT. At first I wanted to post my ideas here, but then I thought maybe I should create a new topic. So, here's my idea for a DB series:

Casting: I would like to see Pan as the main protagonist. Goku should no longer have the spotlight, nor should he turn back into a kid. The rest of the main cast would be Goten, Trunks, and Uub. Bra can be part of the group too if she's not like her GT counterpart, I want this Bra to be both strong and intelligent. Also, forget Pan X Trunks! I don't no why some people would ship them, but I'm not one to judge. Instead, I want Pan to have a love interest who is around her age, one who is strong(maybe stronger than Pan), confident, wise, and is a girl.

Story: The story, as usual, would involve facing a foe who is stronger than the last. I kinda like the idea of going into space to find the dragon balls, I thought it was a fun idea.

Well, that's all I can come up with, what are your ideas?

[One_Instance]

I agree with the Pan thing. Her performance at the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai really reminded me of Goku, not to mention she seems to have spent a lot of time with Goku, so she would be a great candidate for a new main protagonist. Though, I think she should get a lot of spotlight, I don't think she should be the main character. I think it'd be interesting to see her and Bra to be the next Goten and Trunks as well. I'd like Gohan to become a lot stronger in his free time but still keep up with his studies or whatever smart people do. Goten and Trunks should keep the attitudes they have toward training while everyone else keeps up their strength. Oob should definitely become the strongest human and even be able to keep up with the saiyajin. As far as the actual story goes... I don't know, good guys beat bad guys who are stronger each time.

Also, I don't want this to replace GT, this is just what I'd like to see from Dragon Ball Super.

[Lord Beerus]

Have Teen Oob, Bra and Pan be the main characters and likable, and we'll go from their.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

It shouldnt be that hard to replace GT if they make sure not to align the personalities GT fixed on the future versions of those characters. Like Present Trunks being even worse of a nerd than Gohan, Goten only thinking about girls, (seems out of character) and if not for the trolls, reverse all the personalities given. In some cases I'd rather it - they already seemed off from the last episode of Z anyway, especially Pan's.

[Streamer255]

good ideas so far.

[Mystic Tien]

I agree with the Pan thing. Her performance at the 28th Tenkaichi Budokai really reminded me of Goku, not to mention she seems to have spent a lot of time with Goku, so she would be a great candidate for a new main protagonist.

Right here is your answer -

Who do you prefer: Bulma or Chi-Chi?
Toriyama:
To be honest, I’m really not fond of Chi-Chi as a character. (laughs) In the middle of the comic, I started to think, “I don’t want to draw her anymore,” and, sort of as a way of spiting myself, I decided, “you’ll have to draw her if she gets married to Goku, so marry them off!” So, I drew her as a kind of punishment. (laughs)

Nakatsuru:
So that was your reason behind it! (laughs)

Toriyama:
The women I draw all have the same sort of personality. I can’t draw gentle girls; I only know how to draw ones who are strong-willed.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... nakatsuru/

[IDreamtIWasABee]

Same stuff, but executed well. Fights that are actually choreographed (they did so well making up for Toriyama's laziness in the Boo saga and when making the movies; why'd the fights suddenly suck overnight when GT premiered?), Pan's a Super Saiyan with a realistic tween personality, Goku's only a child for a brief time, Baby's a heroic villain. See? All the ideas are there, they just have to be retooled. The only genuine change would be giving Vegeta a prominent role from the start, because goddammit, people, Vegeta's the only true three-dimensional character in the series.

[Basaku]

It shouldnt be that hard to replace GT if they make sure not to align the personalities GT fixed on the future versions of those characters. Like Present Trunks being even worse of a nerd than Gohan, Goten only thinking about girls, (seems out of character) and if not for the trolls, reverse all the personalities given. In some cases I'd rather it - they already seemed off from the last episode of Z anyway, especially Pan's.

Present Trunks should definitely be more like his Future counterpart. Sure, different experiencs shape up people differently so obviously they shouldn't be exactly the same but core personality quirks should be rather similar. Goten is more of a blank slate, he hardly has much of personality as a kid and barely lasts few acts/episodes as an 'adult' so they can really take his character anywhere. If they want to make it clear they're replacing GT though, start with giving Goten a boyfriend

[Streamer255]

It shouldnt be that hard to replace GT if they make sure not to align the personalities GT fixed on the future versions of those characters. Like Present Trunks being even worse of a nerd than Gohan, Goten only thinking about girls, (seems out of character) and if not for the trolls, reverse all the personalities given. In some cases I'd rather it - they already seemed off from the last episode of Z anyway, especially Pan's.

Present Trunks should definitely be more like his Future counterpart. Sure, different experiencs shape up people differently so obviously they shouldn't be exactly the same but core personality quirks should be rather similar. Goten is more of a blank slate, he hardly has much of personality as a kid and barely lasts few acts/episodes as an 'adult' so they can really take his character anywhere. If they want to make it clear they're replacing GT though, start with giving Goten a boyfriend

Yeah, I agree that Trunks should be kind of like his future counterpart. Also, Goten having a boyfriend? Is this because I said that Pan should have a female love interest?

[One_Instance]

I really like the homosexual relationship ideas, especially since General Blue was a completely homophobic impression. It'd serve as a kind of monument of the progress we've made in recent years. Although, I always did like Blue.

[Basaku]

Yeah, I agree that Trunks should be kind of like his future counterpart. Also, Goten having a boyfriend? Is this because I said that Pan should have a female love interest?

Lol I always like the idea, your post reminded me of it

I really like the homosexual relationship ideas, especially since General Blue was a completely homophobic impression. It'd serve as a kind of monument of the progress we've made in recent years. Although, I always did like Blue.

Blue AND Otokosuki, the only two gay characters in the series and they're both downright idiotic offensive stereotypes. Mr. Toriyama & Toei got some making up to do here

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Blue AND Otokosuki, the only two gay characters in the series and they're both downright idiotic offensive stereotypes. Mr. Toriyama & Toei got some making up to do here

Most non-alien characters in this series are just caricatures of something very outdated. All of them in fact are just goofy exaggerations of westernized stereotypes. All the black characters still look like black-face, all the asian extras all have slanted eyes..etc. I never bothered me, but I think Toei could do better. Bleach seems to handle multi-ethnic diversity more naturally but I don't expect Toriyama to be politically correct. I'm shocked he got away with Mr. Popo to this date.

It shouldnt be that hard to replace GT if they make sure not to align the personalities GT fixed on the future versions of those characters. Like Present Trunks being even worse of a nerd than Gohan, Goten only thinking about girls, (seems out of character) and if not for the trolls, reverse all the personalities used in GT. In some cases I'd rather it - they already seemed off from the last episode of Z anyway, especially Pan's.

Present Trunks should definitely be more like his Future counterpart. Sure, different experiencs shape up people differently so obviously they shouldn't be exactly the same but core personality quirks should be rather similar.

I don't want Kid Trunks to be a clone of Future Trunks, he in fact should be the oposite logically. Trunks was only humble, and respectful because he was raised by Bulma, & Gohan and in a lot of pain. He had to grow up fast to survive which is what molded him to be pure-hearted, where as Kid Trunks was raised by both parents, spoiled, cocky, smug and privileged traits both from his younger parents. There is no way he would just be a nerd, if he was raised to be snarky.

[One_Instance]

Blue AND Otokosuki, the only two gay characters in the series and they're both downright idiotic offensive stereotypes. Mr. Toriyama & Toei got some making up to do here

Well, I don't want the stereotypes to disappear completely. Too much political correctness is something I believe in and, as a gay person, I was never offended by Blue or Otokosuki. In fact, Blue is one of my favorite villains, and I never really had an opinion on Otokosuki because of his 3 whole seconds of screen time. I also find it hilarious that the German dub changed his name to Homo.

[Basaku]

Most non-alien characters in this series are just caricatures of something very outdated. All of them in fact are just goofy exaggerations of westernized stereotypes. All the black characters still look like black-face, all the asian extras all have slanted eyes..etc. I never bothered me, but I think Toei could do better. Bleach seems to handle multi-ethnic diversity more naturally but I don't expect Toriyama to be politically correct. I'm shocked he got away with Mr. Popo to this date.

But there's also dark-skinned 'normal' Uub, countering blackface of Mr. Popo. Other caricatures in the series have some good/normal counterparts, meanwhile the gay guys exist in the series so far only as walking stereotypes to be made fun of.

I don't want Kid Trunks to be a clone of Future Trunks, he in fact should be the oposite logically. Trunks was only humble, and respectful because he was raised by Bulma, & Gohan and in a lot of pain. He had to grow up fast to survive which is what molded him to be pure-hearted, where as Kid Trunks was raised by both parents, spoiled, cocky, smug and privileged traits both from his younger parents. There is no way he would just be a nerd, if he was raised to be snarky.

Upbringing alone won't change his persoality fully, neither would genetics alone. People are 'combination' of both so they should be similar in some regards.

Well, I don't want the stereotypes to disappear completely. Too much political correctness is something I believe in and, as a gay person, I was never offended by Blue or Otokosuki. In fact, Blue is one of my favorite villains, and I never really had an opinion on Otokosuki because of his 3 whole seconds of screen time. I also find it hilarious that the German dub changed his name to Homo.

Hey sure, keep them in, keep pervy old men caricatures as well, we all love us some Kamesennin antics But don't shy from having 'normal' counterparts as well. If it's solely caricatures that are present, then "too much political correctness" is just a shield excuse.

[One_Instance]

But there's also dark-skinned 'normal' Uub, countering blackface of Mr. Popo. Other caricatures in the series have some good/normal counterparts, meanwhile the gay guys exist in the series so far only as walking stereotypes to be made fun of.

Well yeah, I don't want Dragon Ball to become a laughing fest of minorities. I just think they shouldn't worry as much about offending people.

[Mystic Tien]

It shouldnt be that hard to replace GT if they make sure not to align the personalities GT fixed on the future versions of those characters. Like Present Trunks being even worse of a nerd than Gohan, Goten only thinking about girls, (seems out of character) and if not for the trolls, reverse all the personalities given. In some cases I'd rather it - they already seemed off from the last episode of Z anyway, especially Pan's.

Present Trunks should definitely be more like his Future counterpart. Sure, different experiencs shape up people differently so obviously they shouldn't be exactly the same but core personality quirks should be rather similar. Goten is more of a blank slate, he hardly has much of personality as a kid and barely lasts few acts/episodes as an 'adult' so they can really take his character anywhere. If they want to make it clear they're replacing GT though, start with giving Goten a boyfriend

Yeah, I agree that Trunks should be kind of like his future counterpart. Also, Goten having a boyfriend? Is this because I said that Pan should have a female love interest?

But Trunks in GT was exactly the same as his future counterpart, only not as harsh or brutal as him. Heck, he was even polite, while Kid Trunks never was.

[dbboxkaifan]

Why do you people always see the need to attack GT? Jeez, not even in Kanzenshuu are the haters avoidable.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

But Trunks in GT was exactly the same as his future counterpart, only not as harsh or brutal as him. Heck, he was even polite, while Kid Trunks never was.

Which was my point, he was written completely out of character along with Goten - which is what Super should avert. Adult Trunks should still be somewhat smug & disrespectful with Adult Goten should still be gullible and honest.

[Mystic Tien]

Why do you people always see the need to attack GT? Jeez, not even in Kanzenshuu are the haters avoidable.

When did I attack GT?

[Zenkai]

Please no homosexual relationships. And Pan is 9 in GT.....

Even people who support homosexual "marriage" would admit that 9 year-old lesbians is not a good idea for a children's anime.