Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

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Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

Post by LightBing » Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:58 pm

I'm not sure if you had to belong to the Dragon Clan. Still if you think they could, why wouldn't they?

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Re: Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:51 pm

I still believe Piccolo can. He's an incarnation of someone who used to pop out more babies than Octomom.
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Re: Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

Post by supercat » Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:31 pm

My guess is Piccolo likely inherited the ability from King Piccolo. I doubt Dende can though.

I don't think Piccolo is the type of individual who would be passionate about pursuing the day to day responsibilities of fatherhood. He probably gets to somewhat experience the feeling of being a parent when he looks after Gohan during Goku's absence.

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Re: Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

Post by Kaboom » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:34 pm

Here's what all the supplementary sources (that I'm aware of) have to say about it:
Daizenshuu #2, Namekian Racial Group wrote: REPRODUCTION
They can lay eggs.
Any member of the Dragon Clan can lay eggs. However, on the current Planet Namek there is a hereditary system, so only the Eldest lays eggs. Normally the number of eggs laid by a single member of the Dragon Clan would be from 10 to 20. In the Eldest's case, he was afraid that their race would go extinct so he laid over a hundred eggs, an exceptional amount.
Daizenshuu #7, Attack Dictionary wrote: Birthing an Egg [tamago wo umu]
First Appears: Chapter 137
Category: Special
User(s): Piccolo Daimao, The Eldest
Characteristics: A technique where they birth an egg from their own mouth, increasing their offspring. It's the special characteristic of the Dragon Clan, who as Namekians are not divided into male or female. Piccolo Daimao birthed Demon Clan members who he used as his underlings, as well as a duplicate of himself engraved with his own memories, who could be called his child. The Eldest of Planet Namek birthed over 100 children in his lifetime. When birthing eggs, Piccolo Daimao chanted "Pokopen, pokopen, daare ga tsutsuita..."
Dragon Book Z, Two Great Races - Namekian wrote: There are two different classes of Namekians: Dragon-types and Warrior-types. Dragon-types have the intellectual faculty to create things, while Warrior-types have excellent fighting abilities. Both classes work together under their parent body, the Grand Elder, as they live out their lives. Further, since there are no sexual divisions, a single Dragon-type is capable of bearing offspring.
Putting everything together, it seems that Dragon-types are the only ones capable of reproducing, and they can birth either more Dragon-types or Warrior-types instead. Which means that Dende could have offspring, but Piccolo could not.

King Piccolo was essentially an "evil clone" of Kami, which means that he was a Dragon-type as well. But when he birthed Piccolo Junior as his heir/clone/whatever, he made him a Warrior-type. I suppose either intentionally, or just as a result of his desire for his offspring to be stronger to avenge him. So while Piccolo's much stronger as a result, a point is made several times that he lacks the special abilities of Dragon-types, and that would seem to include reproduction.

Cell's ability to spawn Cell Juniors was noted in Daizenshuu #7 as an enhanced or warped version of Namekian reproduction, but it's very likely that the spy robots harvested genetic material from both King Piccolo AND Piccolo Junior.
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Re: Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

Post by LightBing » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:40 pm

Thanks for the info Kaboom.

I had a vague idea that it was exclusive to the Dragon Clan members. Why didn't Dende spawned a few descendents? At least one to succeed him as Kami. I guess since he's still young,so he can't do it yet. It would be logical down the line.

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Re: Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

Post by ZombieVito » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:16 pm

Kaboom wrote:
Dragon Book Z, Two Great Races - Namekian wrote: There are two different classes of Namekians: Dragon-types and Warrior-types. Dragon-types have the intellectual faculty to create things, while Warrior-types have excellent fighting abilities. Both classes work together under their parent body, the Grand Elder, as they live out their lives. Further, since there are no sexual divisions, a single Dragon-type is capable of bearing offspring.
"Things".

This is ambiguous IMO. If you all remember Piccolo can indeed create things out of nowhere like clothes or a sand clock.

Maybe Piccolo is a hybrid. He is the result of a fusion between a Fighter and a Dragon type Namekian after all.

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Re: Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

Post by Doctor. » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:17 pm

Zombie wrote:
Kaboom wrote:
Dragon Book Z, Two Great Races - Namekian wrote: There are two different classes of Namekians: Dragon-types and Warrior-types. Dragon-types have the intellectual faculty to create things, while Warrior-types have excellent fighting abilities. Both classes work together under their parent body, the Grand Elder, as they live out their lives. Further, since there are no sexual divisions, a single Dragon-type is capable of bearing offspring.
"Things".

This is ambiguous IMO. If you all remember Piccolo can indeed create things out of nowhere like clothes or a sand clock.

Maybe Piccolo is a hybrid. He is the result of a fusion between a Fighter and a Dragon type Namekian after all.
Dende says to Piccolo he's a warrior type flat-out on Namek.

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Re: Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

Post by ZombieVito » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:19 pm

Doctor. wrote: Dende says to Piccolo he's a warrior type flat-out on Namek.
Well yes.

Piccolo isn't fused with Kami there yet.

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Re: Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

Post by Doctor. » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:21 pm

Zombie wrote:
Doctor. wrote: Dende says to Piccolo he's a warrior type flat-out on Namek.
Well yes.

Piccolo isn't fused with Kami there yet.
Well wouldn't Piccolo be able to create Dragon Balls for Earth, then? Rendering Dende useless.

Scratch that, why would the DBs even disappear in that case?

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Re: Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

Post by ZombieVito » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:24 pm

Doctor. wrote:
Zombie wrote:
Doctor. wrote: Dende says to Piccolo he's a warrior type flat-out on Namek.
Well yes.

Piccolo isn't fused with Kami there yet.
Well wouldn't Piccolo be able to create Dragon Balls for Earth, then? Rendering Dende useless.

Scratch that, why would the DBs even disappear in that case?
The Dragon Balls disappeared because the being that created them ceased to exist.

And well if Piccolo is a full Fighter Namekian then how did he create Gohan's clothes or that sand clock?

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Re: Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

Post by Doctor. » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:28 pm

Zombie wrote:The Dragon Balls disappeared because the being that created them ceased to exist.

And well if Piccolo is a full Fighter Namekian then how did he create Gohan's clothes or that sand clock?
He created clothes for Gohan before he fused with God, it really isn't an indicator.

There's nothing that tells us Nail wouldn't be capable of the same thing, honestly.

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Re: Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

Post by Kaboom » Thu Jun 18, 2015 6:55 pm

That type of thing seems to be basic low-level sorcery, a learnable skill and not necessarily a race- or breed-specific ability.

THAT particular entry may be vague, but the other ones I listed are much less so. Especially Daizenshuu #7 specifically labeling egg-laying as a "special characteristic of the Dragon Clan."
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Re: Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

Post by TJVY » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:00 am

Doctor. wrote:
Zombie wrote:And well if Piccolo is a full Fighter Namekian then how did he create Gohan's clothes or that sand clock?
He created clothes for Gohan before he fused with God, it really isn't an indicator.
I thought that he made Gohan's clothes after his visit in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
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Re: Could Piccolo and/or Dende spawn Namekians?

Post by dbgtFO » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:08 am

TJVY wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
Zombie wrote:And well if Piccolo is a full Fighter Namekian then how did he create Gohan's clothes or that sand clock?
He created clothes for Gohan before he fused with God, it really isn't an indicator.
I thought that he made Gohan's clothes after his visit in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
He also did it back in the Saiyan arc:

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