Goku vs. Superman

[JSnively03]

So it's been some time since I posted the comment about Goku vs. Superman. Might as well make another to make the DCtards cry.

So first off, I want to begin by saying that travel speed and combat speed are not the same and that lifting strength does not impact how hard you punch.

Don't believe me? Look here, it even applies to humans.

http://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-trai ... hing-power

Anyway. To the categories (Strength, speed, durability, and skills).

1: So if you can't tell already, Goku is pretty fast. I mean EXTREMELY fast. Superman is FTL in combat speed and flying speed, but only in the future. Superman flew to the sun and back to Earth in some time, I don't even know, all I know is that he was flying (Flying, not fighting) faster than light. Many DCtards like to say just because he was punching Wonder Woman at the same time means he was also FTL in combat when he was fighting Wonder Woman while flying to the sun and back to Earth. Not only is this logic flawed, but it's just completely stupid. Heck, even Wonder Woman backs up my claim (Superman wasn't FTL in speed before the future) when she says it herself. Unfortunately, the scan is to blurry to read, but I'll still paste the image URL.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/imag ... LLf-ktCXFQ

Conclusion: Superman (Post-Crisis) is not FTL before the future.

Now, on to Goku's speed. Goku has shown some pretty impressive speed feats. Goku dodged a laser as a kid, and many DC tards will tell you to prove it's a laser. A little advice, if they tell you to prove something that the manga already portrays, just ignore them.

Anyway.

A laser is concentrated light. Heck, a laser pulse is 300 times faster than light. So just imagine how fast a laser is. But here's the thing, we don't NEED to make assumptions to prove that lasers are faster than light. We have this beautiful link right here.

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/new ... eed-record

This right here proves that all lasers are faster than light. And yes, lasers in fiction are faster than light. I get people that were mere humans dodged lasers, but that's because they aim-dodge. We also know that he moved when the laser was firing, because Goku didn't even know what a laser was at the time.

And considering that he becomes faster as Dragon Ball progresses, I think it's pretty safe to say he's more than light speed in the Saiyan Saga (Combat speed).

But here's another argument DC tards use. They'll tell you that if Goku was faster than light in the Saiyan Saga, he would've traveled across Snake Way in seconds. It's because he couldn't travel faster than light in the Saiyan Saga, he could only fight and react to things faster than light.

Give the fact that Goku can fight several times light speed in the Frieza Saga, it's safe to say that he's much faster than Superman when it comes to combat speed.

Goku: 1

Superman: 0

2: Strength is obvious. Superman lifted Earth.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ori ... -28153.jpg

Goku: 1

Superman: 1

3: Durability is where a ton of scans come in. Both have shown durability feats. As we know, Cell could bust a solar system. It even said in the guide books that SSJ 2 Gohan was a solar system buster because he deflected Cell's attack.

Here's scans for both:

http://i.imgur.com/09bxE.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/yINf81l.jpg

That being said, Buu's Kamehameha would've been stronger than Cell's Kamehameha because Buu is so much more powerful than Cell. And guess what? SSJ 3 Goku tanked the blast!

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/55 ... _super.gif

Superman was knocked out by a supernova. Now my buddy +Sun Wukong comes in to prove that surviving a supernova is pretty poor for DBZ standards. If a decently powered supernova is a decent amount of miles away from Earth and the some of the supernova hits it, it's either going to spin or mess up our orbit or leave a ton of radiation in the atmosphere. But anyway, here's a scan of Superman surviving a supernova.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/ori ... onfeat.jpg

I'm not using the 50x supernova feat because he didn't tank the full blast of that supernova.

Goku: 2

Superman: 1

4: Skills and techniques really affect a battle. Think about it, I bring a gun that's pretty powerful, but someone brings a lot more than I do to the fight. The guy that has more guns is going to win.

Anyway. Here's their powers.

Goku: Afterimage Technique - A typical distraction technique where through a short burst of speed Goku is able to leave an afterimage of his body behind which often causes the opponent to attack. Goku as a child in the 21st World Martial Arts tournament could leave 3 images behind, but by the time of the cell games Goku can leave an innumerable number of afterimages behind.

Continuous Kamehameha - Goku's version of the Continuous Energy Volley where Goku fires many small blasts of energy in rapid succession in order to cause great damage. The technique has the downside of leaving a large smokescreen from the explosions so if the attack fails it often gives the enemy a sneak attack.

Crazy Fist - A technique Goku came up with on the fly to counter Jackie Chun's Drunken Fist technique. Goku hopes around like a monkey giving him an air of unpredictability and uses his tail more.

Destructo Disk - A technique taken from Krillin where Goku forms a flat energy disk that can cut through most objects and enemies. Due to the lethal nature of the attack Goku only uses it when absolutely necessary, like cutting off Gohan's tail when he transformed.

Dragon Fist - One of Goku's ultimate techniques and the only one he created himself. Goku charges his fist with a golden ki dragon that resembeles Shenron and punches the opponent resulting in the dragon either devouring or impaling the opponent. This move is easily Goku's most powerful move besides the spirit bomb as he was able to blast a hole in Omega Shenron's chest who was more powerful than a Super Saiyan 4 Goku.

Dragonthrow - Goku's trademark grapple where he grabs a leg, tail, tentacle, or other extremity and spins them around and hammer throws them typically into a mountain.

Flight - Goku is able to manipulate his ki to self propel himself for flight. Goku can either levitate lightly or full on fly at high speed.

Fusion Dance - Goku learned the technique fro its creators the Metamorans while in the Other World. Goku can perform the dance with Vegeta in order to merge their bodies to form Gogeta. The techniques downside is that it only lasts for half an hour.

Hasshu-Ken - A technique copied and improved from King Chappa where Goku moves his arms so fast it appears he has eight arms for combat. This was used to counter Tien's Four Witches technique.

Homing Energy Wave - Goku can fire an energy wave that tracks and homes in on his opponent by locking onto their energy signature.
Instant Transmission - A technique that Goku learned from the Yardrats after his battle with Frieza. Goku typically places two fingers on his forehead and senses a ki signature and the instantly teleports to that location. The technique requires a lot of concentration so Goku can be interrupted or stopped by pressing the attack.

Janken Fist - Goku's original signature technique that was taught to him by his Grandpa Gohan. Gokku calls out the name of the attack and delivers either a punch (rock), slap (paper), or eye poke (scissors).

Kiai - An invisble energy wave that is often used to defeat and demoralize weaker opponents or cancel out attacks without using too much energy. Goku used this to defeat Chi-Chi and to cancel out Nappa's Break Cannon.

Kaio-ken (Pronounced"KAI-o-ken") - One of Goku's signature techniques that was taught to him by King Kai. King Kai has said that Goku is the sole student to master the attack so Goku is probably the sole user besides King Kai himself. The technique multiples Goku's ki power by 2X or more depending on how much Goku's body can take. Goku by the time of his battle with Frieza could multiple his ki by 20 times. The technique strains Goku's body so he must use it sparingly. This technique was superseded by the Super Saiyan transformation which put out more power, but put less strain on his body.

Kamehameha - Goku's most used technique and the staple move of the Turtle School invented by Master Roshi. Goku copied this move after watching Roshi perform it once and continued to use it for the rest of his life. The Kamehameha is a blue energy wave fired from cupped hands after pronouncing the name of the attack. Goku can perform many variations of the move like shooting it one handed, firing it from his feet, bending the kamehameha, and others.

Mimicry - Goku has a knack for for mimicking ki attacks after he has seen them performed. Goku learns the Kamehameha, Destructo Disk, Hasshu-Ken, and Solar Flare this way.

Solar Flare - A technique copied from Tien Shinhan where Goku places his hands around his face and releases a blinding flash of light used to blind opponents for either a quick getaway or as an opening for an attack.

Spirit Bomb - Goku's most powerful move outright where Goku gathers energy from the area around him to form a positive energy ball that is highly effective against beings of evil. Goku can expand his horizon and take energy from surrounding planets even taking a galaxy wide drain to defeat Kid Buu and a universe drain for Omega Shenron. The technique takes a very long time to complete so Goku typically needs someone like Piccolo or Vegeta to run interference

Super Kaio-ken - A last resort move where Goku uses the Kaio-Ken along with the Super Saiyan transformation for a very powerful combination. This move is very taxing on Goku's body as one punch was enough to cause Goku to run out of breath. Goku used this technique once against Pikkon during the Other World Tournament.

Telekinesis - Goku is able to use ki to move objects with his mind, he demonstrated this by manipulating a glass of water until Chi-Chi interrupted him.

Telepathy - Goku is able to read minds by placing his palm on the head of the intended target or broadcast his thoughts to others.
Tornado - A move Goku came up with during his battle with Nam in the Semi-Finals of the World Martial Arts tournament. Goku spins around rapidly and moves around the ring hitting his opponent though the move will make him very dizzy.

Twin Kamehameha - A variation of the Kamehameha where Goku charges twin energy spheres that he can launch one at a time. The first time Goku used this was to test if Frieza only used his eyes instead of sensing energy.

And all of the Super Saiyan transformations.

Because I can't fit those lines into the comment to make it post, I'll give you this link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_and ... f_Superman

Goku: 3

Superman: 1

So there you have it, Goku would destroy Superman.

[VegettoEX]

Might as well make another to make the DCtards cry.

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