Is "Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!!" canon?

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Is Yo Son Goku considered canon at this point with Super/BoG taking place six months after Kid Buu's defeat when Yo! is supposed to take place 2 years after the defeat of Kid Buu? Because it wouldn't make sense as Yo! would take place before BoG/Super. It would make more sense if it was like One Piece Film Strong World where Tarble is canon but the special isn't. Is that what the deal is?

[Marco Polo]

Is there anything in Super so far that contradicts Yo! taking place 2 years after Kid Buu?

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Is there anything in Super that contradicts Yo! taking place 2 years after Kid Buu?

Yup, BoG/Super takes place six months after Buu's defeat and Videl and Gohan are married meanwhile in Yo! they're not married and Videl doesn't have her new look. So if it supposedly takes place 2 years after Buu, it wouldn't make sense which would make it non canon. Tarble would be canon though because of the mention of him in BoG.

[HybridSaiyan]

So this special probably was considered canon before they announced BoG.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

So this special probably was considered canon before they announced BoG.

So it is a Strong World type situation then

[Kamiccolo9]

Where is the whole "Super is 6 months after Buu" thing coming from? Is this said in the series?

[DoomieDoomie911]

Where is the whole "Super is 6 months after Buu" thing coming from? Is this said in the series?

It's said in promotional materiel. That was a mistake, though, because I believe it's said in the first episode's opening narration that the series takes place "some time" after the wish that was made after the Boo arc.

It's all pretty confusing...

[Kamiccolo9]

Where is the whole "Super is 6 months after Buu" thing coming from? Is this said in the series?

It's said in promotional materiel. That was a mistake, though, because I believe it's said in the first episode's opening narration that the series takes place "some time" after the wish that was made after the Boo arc.

It's all pretty confusing...

Yeah, that would make more sense, given Pan's age at the end of the manga.

I imagine they'll just change the number of Saiyans required for the god ritual. Or introduce Tarble somehow.

[Hellspawn28]

In Yo Son Goku and His Friends Return that everyone on Earth remembers Majin Buu since Videl mention that the world believes Mr. Satan beats Buu. However in Super, no one remembers Buu. Mr. Satan told everyone that Fat Buu is a alien from another galaxy that came to Earth to train with him.

[Sayo-chan]

Anything beyond the source material is as "canon" as you want it to be.

[bleed0range]

I feel like, they kind of just decided to forget about this special after BOG. Maybe Toriyama feels the BOG/ROF storyline is a better direction to go in. At the time Yo! was made it was meant to be a one-off sort of thing. There wasn't going to be anything else. Like, revisiting Freeza's remnants is kind of repetitive with ROF unless you kind of just disregard this special altogether. They also haven't done much in the way of tying in Vegeta's brother to anything else.

Seems like Toriyama officially considers Jaco/BOG/ROF part of his Dragon World. There may not be an official canon, but I do believe Toriyama has in his head an idea of what he considers the story of DB or "his dragon world."

[Kamiccolo9]

I feel like, they kind of just decided to forget about this special after BOG. Maybe Toriyama feels the BOG/ROF storyline is a better direction to go in. At the time Yo! was made it was meant to be a one-off sort of thing. There wasn't going to be anything else. Like, revisiting Freeza's remnants is kind of repetitive with ROF unless you kind of just disregard this special altogether. They also haven't done much in the way of tying in Vegeta's brother to anything else.

Seems like Toriyama officially considers Jaco/BOG/ROF part of his Dragon World. There may not be an official canon, but I do believe Toriyama has in his head an idea of what he considers the story of DB or "his dragon world."

Well, Tarble is referenced in BoG. So there's that.

[Sayo-chan]

I feel like, they kind of just decided to forget about this special after BOG. Maybe Toriyama feels the BOG/ROF storyline is a better direction to go in. At the time Yo! was made it was meant to be a one-off sort of thing. There wasn't going to be anything else. Like, revisiting Freeza's remnants is kind of repetitive with ROF unless you kind of just disregard this special altogether. They also haven't done much in the way of tying in Vegeta's brother to anything else.

Seems like Toriyama officially considers Jaco/BOG/ROF part of his Dragon World. There may not be an official canon, but I do believe Toriyama has in his head an idea of what he considers the story of DB or "his dragon world."

Well, Tarble is referenced in BoG. So there's that.

Really? What's the reference?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

When discussing the number of Saiyans for the god ritual, Bluma mentions Vegeta having a brother. Then there's the whole spiel about him being on a far off planet and not having his cell phone number.

[Low Tone G]

I personally think that Yo Son Goku isn't canon to Super. I don't even think that Tarble will be referenced in the series.

I imagine the conversation about the sixth Saiyan to perform the ritual like this:

Whis: I think you misunderstood, you need 6 Saiyans in total.
Goku: Then we were wrong that we used only five.
Beerus: So I should destroy the Earth, it means?
Videl: Wait a moment, Lord Beerus, there is one more Saiyan here, or else, will be!

[Marco Polo]

Is there anything in Super that contradicts Yo! taking place 2 years after Kid Buu?

Yup, BoG/Super takes place six months after Buu's defeat and Videl and Gohan are married meanwhile in Yo! they're not married and Videl doesn't have her new look. So if it supposedly takes place 2 years after Buu, it wouldn't make sense which would make it non canon. Tarble would be canon though because of the mention of him in BoG.

Interesting... I think it could still be canon to DB Super though, in the same way Garlic Jr. is canon to DBZ even though the Dead Zone movie has contradictions.

[fadeddreams5]

Didn't BoG take place 4 years after the Buu arc? It also referenced Vegeta's brother. I suppose you could say the 2008 OVA is "canon" to the timeline of the new movies, but not Super, which seemingly takes place 6 months after the Buu saga (if that promotional material is correct).

[Lord Beerus]

Didn't BoG take place 4 years after the Buu arc? It also referenced Vegeta's brother. I suppose you could say the 2008 OVA is "canon" to the timeline of the new movies, but not Super, which seemingly takes place 6 months after the Buu saga (if that promotional material is correct).

Well, if Videl is pregnant in Super, then the statement of the plot taking place 6 months after the Buu saga was an outright lie. And the 2008 OVA can then fit into the timeline of Super.

[HEDGESMFG]

The story can 'still' fit in if you ignore anything referencing a date. It's all so vague anyway. Canon with dragonball is entirely a "pick and choose" buffet. Nothing has said GT isn't canon either, even though many will choose to view it that way. Some even think end of Z isn't canon anymore and that Super will ignore it. Which is... unlikely (though admittedly not impossible).

But yes, I actually don't believe Super takes place 6 months after Buu's defeat at all. The 6 months line 'only' references when the wish was made. There is absolutely no other indication of a timetable beyond that yet. I guess how they handle Pan will give us a partial answer.

[SpiritBombTriumphant]

How many of these threads are we going to have? There is no official "canon" anymore. Something always contradicts something else. Just go with what you want.