There is a separate word for purple 紫 rather than the common word for blue 青. However, all color exists on a continuous spectrum of wavelenths, and human words just arbitrarily divide them. It's a stretch, but since there are not that many people with colored hair in the DB verse, It's possible Blooma asked if his hair was blue because it was simpler(less syllables) and can be vague enough to include many different shades. If it was anywhere in the ballpark, it would be most likely Trunks.Black_Liger wrote:I heard the japanese word for blue is the same as purple. can someone confirms this so I know Toei either did a freaking wordplay when describing Trunk's hair?.
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She uses the English word (ブルー/buruu), not the Japanese word (青/ao).Black_Liger wrote:I heard the japanese word for blue is the same as purple. can someone confirms this so I know Toei either did a freaking wordplay when describing Trunk's hair?.
青/ao used to refer to green (not purple) depending on context, but modern Japanese tends to use 緑/midori instead.
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Aren't the Cell Junior's the youngest beings to fly?alakazam^ wrote:I don't think Tambourine can be compared as he was a demon-minion that had a job to do.EmmaWinters wrote:I suppose you're right. I'll clarify.Polyphase Avatron wrote:You say Pan is the youngest character to fly, but what about Tambourine? Wasn't he able to fly shortly after he was born/hatched?
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Tambourine was just one example I thought of. The point is that younger characters have flown.
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It seems the "youngest character to fly" is being taken way too literally. Yes, there were technically characters who were physically younger than Pan when they flew. But they were also all monsters/clones born into bodies that were already developed, not born as infants and then matured. So I guess a more literal way to phrase it would be that Pan is the "least physically developed" character to fly, if just saying "youngest" is an issue.
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So what is the proper title of episode 50?
Here on Kanzenshuu it's listed as:
"Goku vs Black!
The path to the sealed future"
But Dragon Team has it as:
"Goku vs Black!
The path to the future gets closed"
From what I gather from latest news, Black will find Trunks' time-machine and apparently destroy it, thus "closing the path to the future" as per Dragon Team, but is this really how it's supposed to be translated? The Kanzenshuu title gives off another impression, as if the future has already been sealed and now they need to find another path to it.
Here on Kanzenshuu it's listed as:
"Goku vs Black!
The path to the sealed future"
But Dragon Team has it as:
"Goku vs Black!
The path to the future gets closed"
From what I gather from latest news, Black will find Trunks' time-machine and apparently destroy it, thus "closing the path to the future" as per Dragon Team, but is this really how it's supposed to be translated? The Kanzenshuu title gives off another impression, as if the future has already been sealed and now they need to find another path to it.
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The problem there is, the Japanese phrasing is vague enough that both translations are equally sound, and until we see the episode itself and what the title is actually referring to, we just don't know if "Path to the Sealed Future" or "Sealed Path to the Future" is correct.dbgtFO wrote:So what is the proper title of episode 50?
Here on Kanzenshuu it's listed as:
"Goku vs Black!
The path to the sealed future"
But Dragon Team has it as:
"Goku vs Black!
The path to the future gets closed"
From what I gather from latest news, Black will find Trunks' time-machine and apparently destroy it, thus "closing the path to the future" as per Dragon Team, but is this really how it's supposed to be translated? The Kanzenshuu title gives off another impression, as if the future has already been sealed and now they need to find another path to it.
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Yeah, it seems tricky in this case because the "future" is technically already sealed in the past tense as Kanzenshuu translated it, as the time machine is out of fuel and apparently needs some maintenance too. But, as already mentioned, if Black outright destroys the time machine, they it can be sealed in the present tense for that episode.
I'll be interesting to see which interpretation ends up being correct, though it doesn't seem like either option is that big of a deal. Bluma has the notebook from her future self, so they could get around either option with enough time.
I'll be interesting to see which interpretation ends up being correct, though it doesn't seem like either option is that big of a deal. Bluma has the notebook from her future self, so they could get around either option with enough time.
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I always read it as the path being the one being closed off.
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Thanks for the responses all of you, I did have an inkling the differences in translations was caused by vagueness in the japanese text.. as per usual.
Guess we'll find out soon enough though ^_^
Guess we'll find out soon enough though ^_^
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As of DBS Episode 50, "Sealed Path to the Future" seens to be appropiate translation.
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Well, Black blows up the time machine, sealing the future. But then Bulma in the end brings out the other time machine, providing a new path to that sealed future. So both interpretations still seem applicable.
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Does Black speak in any specific way that might be lost in translation? Like Goku speaking like a hick. It might be useful to point out such a characteristic, at least for the more important new characters.
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His speech is quite formal, which is an interesting juxtaposition with Nozawa's evil voice (I mean, Gohan is often polite, but has a gentle voice to match it). Basically, he speaks the proper kind of Japanese that teachers want you to learn, rather than speaking like the large majority of rude, informal anime characters
I think he's the only Nozawa-voiced character in Dragon Ball who uses "watashi" regularly.
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Thank you. That's quite interesting, a nice bit of insight. It further separates him from Goku. For what it's worth, Kaioshin uses "watashi" as well. Polite villains are much more threatening than foul-mouthed ones, to me.sailorspazz wrote:His speech is quite formal, which is an interesting juxtaposition with Nozawa's evil voice (I mean, Gohan is often polite, but has a gentle voice to match it). Basically, he speaks the proper kind of Japanese that teachers want you to learn, rather than speaking like the large majority of rude, informal anime charactersI think he's the only Nozawa-voiced character in Dragon Ball who uses "watashi" regularly.
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Agreed!LightBing wrote:Thank you. That's quite interesting, a nice bit of insight. It further separates him from Goku. For what it's worth, Kaioshin uses "watashi" as well. Polite villains are much more threatening than foul-mouthed ones, to me.sailorspazz wrote:His speech is quite formal, which is an interesting juxtaposition with Nozawa's evil voice (I mean, Gohan is often polite, but has a gentle voice to match it). Basically, he speaks the proper kind of Japanese that teachers want you to learn, rather than speaking like the large majority of rude, informal anime charactersI think he's the only Nozawa-voiced character in Dragon Ball who uses "watashi" regularly.
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Herms' summary says that Black was stronger now than in the future, while DragonTeam's subs says he was stronger in the future. Which is the correct?
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It's supposed to be in the future. I messed up, but it's fixed now in the first post of the episode 50 thread. Sorry for any confusion.Sandubadear wrote:Herms' summary says that Black was stronger now than in the future, while DragonTeam's subs says he was stronger in the future. Which is the correct?
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Updated. Phew!
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Shouldn't that be Vegeta and Beers?EmmaWinters wrote:Context: Black arrives.
03:13 | Black: "Vegeta... And even the God of Destruction, Beerus."
Significance: Shows that Black somehow recognizes Beerus and Whis.