Beerus is a confirmed Universal Buster!!

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Beerus is a confirmed Universal Buster!!

Post by h0kuten » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:34 pm

Herms =Episode 4=
Minute: 21
Elder Kaioshin: "Beerus-sama's actions are no different from the workings of nature. We can do nothing but wait until the storm passes. He might not settle for a planet or two this time...The entire universe might disappear!"
Kaioshin: "T-The entire universe?"

Significance: Yes, the entire universe. Really. You can take his word for it.

Further-more, Cell states he could bust a Solar System with Ssj2 tier power. That should speak loads for how much a difference of power there is between Cell & Beerus.

Piccolo (Early DBZ) = Moon Buster
Vegeta (Saiyan Saga) = Planet Buster
Frieza 1rst Form = Casual Planet Buster
Perfect Cell = Solar System Buster
Beerus = Universal Buster

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Re: Beerus is a confirmed Universal Buster!!

Post by Zephyr » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:37 pm

Nothing indicates that the Kaioshin are saying it would disappear in an instant.

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Re: Beerus is a confirmed Universal Buster!!

Post by h0kuten » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:38 pm

Zephyr wrote:Nothing indicates that the Kaioshin are saying it would disappear in an instant.
It makes no sense it wouldn't.

Planets disappear in an instant when Beerus wishes to destroy them. So it's a fact by default.

There are more than 1 universes in DBZ, so if Beerus wishes, he could simply bust the Universe and travel to another.

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Post by BrolyLSSJ » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:39 pm

No.....he meant over time if Beerus is still roaming use common sense.
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Post by BrolyLSSJ » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:41 pm

Also your whole list is flawed.....
Piccolo (Early DBZ) = Moon Buster
Vegeta (Anime Only) (Saiyan Saga) = Planet Buster
Freeza 1st Form = Core Planet Buster
Perfect Cell = Solar System Buster (Hype no feats)
Buu (Anime)=Over time galaxy buster
Broly (Movie)= Over time galaxy buster
Beerus = Universal Buster (No)
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Post by h0kuten » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:43 pm

BrolyLSSJ wrote:No.....he meant over time if Beerus is still roaming use common sense.
Nothing backs that logic up.

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Post by BrolyLSSJ » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:50 pm

h0kuten wrote:
BrolyLSSJ wrote:No.....he meant over time if Beerus is still roaming use common sense.
Nothing backs that logic up.
Broly/Buu did it.....
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Re: Beerus is a confirmed Universal Buster!!

Post by h0kuten » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:53 pm

BrolyLSSJ wrote:
h0kuten wrote:
BrolyLSSJ wrote:No.....he meant over time if Beerus is still roaming use common sense.
Nothing backs that logic up.
Broly/Buu did it.....
Broly busted an entire Galaxy in one shot during the opening of the movie.

Just because Kid Boo destroyed planets 1 by 1 doesn't mean he couldn't bust a few solar systems.

The above quote contradicts your argument by the way. Beerus destroys planets in an instant. For him to not bust the entire universe in one shot makes next to zero sense.

There are trillions upon trillions of planets in the universe. It would take him millions and billions of years to clear the entire universe by going 1 planet at a time. It's such a faulty argument it's kind of laughable.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:55 pm

I'm pretty sure this dialogue is common throughout the series. "The whole universe is in danger!"

It just means Beerus can decide to destroy every single planet in his path if he wants to. Given his speed and power, it wouldn't take all that long. Thus, no more universe since nobody stands a chance against him.
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Post by BrolyLSSJ » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:56 pm

h0kuten wrote: Broly busted an entire Galaxy in one shot during the opening of the movie.

Just because Kid Boo destroyed planets 1 by 1 doesn't mean he couldn't bust a few solar systems.

The above quote contradicts your argument by the way. Beerus destroys planets in an instant. For him to not bust the entire universe in one shot makes next to zero sense.

There are trillions upon trillions of planets in the universe. It would take him millions and billions of years to clear the entire universe by going 1 planet at a time. It's such a faulty argument it's kind of laughable.
Broly didnt one shot thats why we saw planets one by one he was destroying it by going planet to planet.
Planet=/=Universe they arent the same the gap is big.
Beerus is 75,0000,000 years old so i wouldn't be shocked.
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Post by BrolyLSSJ » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:57 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:I'm pretty sure this dialogue is common throughout the series. "The whole universe is in danger!"

It just means Beerus can decide to destroy every single planet in his path if he wants to. Given his speed and power, it wouldn't take all that long. Thus, no more universe since nobody stands a chance against him.
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Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:58 pm

It doesn't have to mean he could destroy the whole thing at once in a single blast. Actually, nothing the Kaioshin said implies that in any way.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:06 pm

h0kuten wrote: Broly busted an entire Galaxy in one shot during the opening of the movie.
The galaxy was still there since Goku visit earlier and there was still stars seen in the background. Some fans really take things out of context since destroy the whole universe can mean anything. It was likely a figure of speech saying that Beerus would end up destroying every planet and star over time if no one stops him. Destroying the whole universe would mean that you would have destroy every galaxy (which has billions of stars and planets), every dimension, time and space it's self to destroy the whole universe. The only character who comes close to that power was Buuhan with a chain reaction (now raw power) and Super Yi Xing Long with a chain reaction as well.
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Post by SaiyaSith » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:08 pm

BrolyLSSJ wrote:Also your whole list is flawed.....

Freeza 1st Form = Core Planet Buster
Beerus = Universal Buster (No)
What's a "core planet buster" compared to a casual planet buster? As for Beerus being a universe buster; he is.

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Post by BrolyLSSJ » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:09 pm

SaiyaSith wrote:
BrolyLSSJ wrote:Also your whole list is flawed.....

Freeza 1st Form = Core Planet Buster
Beerus = Universal Buster (No)
What's a "core planet buster" compared to a casual planet buster? As for Beerus being a universe buster; he is.
Core=Direct hit to the core to bust anything
Causual=Direct Impact
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Post by Helios518 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:11 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
h0kuten wrote: Broly busted an entire Galaxy in one shot during the opening of the movie.
The galaxy was still there since Goku visit earlier and there was still stars seen in the background. Some fans really take things out of context since destroy the whole universe can mean anything. It was likely a figure of speech saying that Beerus would end up destroying every planet and star over time if no one stops him. Destroying the whole universe would mean that you would have destroy every galaxy (which has billions of stars and planets), every dimension, time and space it's self to destroy the whole universe. The only character who comes close to that power was Buuhan with a chain reaction (now raw power) and Super Yi Xing Long with a chain reaction as well.
How was Buuhan going to destroy the Universe by a chain reaction?
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Post by BrolyLSSJ » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:12 pm

A chain reaction doesnt cause a universe destruction.....
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Post by SaiyaSith » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:14 pm

BrolyLSSJ wrote:
SaiyaSith wrote:
BrolyLSSJ wrote:Also your whole list is flawed.....

Freeza 1st Form = Core Planet Buster
Beerus = Universal Buster (No)
What's a "core planet buster" compared to a casual planet buster? As for Beerus being a universe buster; he is.
Core=Direct hit to the core to bust anything
Causual=Direct Impact
That doesn't make any sense. Blowing up a planet = Blowing up a planet.

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Post by Saiyan007 » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:21 pm

Base form Freeza can obviously 1 shot a planet if he wanted too

He doesn't need to blow up the core

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Post by BrolyLSSJ » Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:22 pm

SaiyaSith wrote: That doesn't make any sense. Blowing up a planet = Blowing up a planet.
It does....
Blowing up a planet aka Casual would mean seconds
Core busting is over a minute or or longer.....
Big cap between both because a direct hit means if it hits a building or even a small object and it blows the planet up without hitting the core like what Beerus did with the tab is casual.
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