Why is Chris Sabat better treated than Paul Bandey?

[Ree]

disclaimer: PLEASE do NOT call him "That old bast@rd" in this thread.

I noticed that a lot of people say that the old man who voiced a lot of the characters in the Big Green dub voiced them terribly is not good. yeah, yeah he can't speak good English but can't we give him a free pass since English isn't his native language?

Well, Chris Sabat voiced about as many characters and some of them are worse than anything I've ever heard from the old man (Zarbon, Nappa, Recomme, Guru, Shenron/Shenlong/whoever) and people are complaining but he's also given props! WHY?

For the old man's efforts he gets laughed at, bashed and called "that old bast@rd" but Chris Sabat doesnt get near this much hate and criticism.

Is the old man GOOD? not really.
Is he At least better than Chris Sabat? see above.
is he THAT TERRIBLE? see above.

it is truly not fair.

[Eire]

he can't speak good English but can't we give him a free pass since English isn't his native language?

I can't understand logic behind this statement- he lacks the basic requirment in his job so he shouln't be judged for that?

[Ree]

no you should criticize him!
but I'm saying he shouldn't be shamed solely for it when its not his native language.

[Eire]

Then he should be criticized for taking up the job that he had no skills to do to begin with. We are.not in primary school.

[Ree]

Okay but people shouldn't criticize him for voicing a lot of characters when Christopher Sabat voiced a lot too and voiced a good number of them badly.

[Doctor.]

I don't understand what you want, honestly.

Do you want us to treat that "old man" better? Well, sure, I'm absolutely sure almost nobody on this forum will call him an "old bastard", but that doesn't mean he can't be criticized for his English, for how good of a voice actor he is, for how many different voices he can make for his characters, etc. People probably don't criticize Sabat as much because they, most likely, think he's better in every aspect and praise him for keeping a decent portrayal for many different characters, while keeping all of their voices very different from each-other. If they don't think said "old man" is a good voice actor in the first place, unlike Sabat, then of course they're not gonna give him any praise.

If you're asking us to criticize Sabat just because someone in the same position is criticized too, then that's just blind hate towards a talented individual just because a person you like is, unfortunately, treated badly everywhere you go.

[Ree]

I wish he was at least treated better. Maybe but I personally dont agree on Sabat.
I guess I'm trying to say people shouldn't be hypocritical.

[Doctor.]

I wish he was at least treated better. Maybe but I personally dont agree on Sabat.
I guess I'm trying to say people shouldn't be hypocritical.

I don't think people are being hypocritical at all. They simply think Sabat does a good job while the actor from Big Green doesn't, that's it. They'd be hypocritical if they thought both of them sucked and yet still praised Sabat and insulted the BG actor.

[Ree]

Yeah but some of them bash the BG actor for things that apply to Christopher Sabat.
Have you heard Chris Sabat's Recomme, Guru, Zarbon, Nappa? I feel that the BG actor would be bashed for putting out those performances.

[Doctor.]

Yeah but some of them bash the BG actor for things that apply to Christopher Sabat.
Have you heard Chris Sabat's Recomme, Guru, Zarbon, Nappa? I feel that the BG actor would be bashed for putting out those performances.

I don't know if you're aware, but Chris Sabat's performance as those characters get criticized very often, especially in this forum. Jeice too.

[Kakacarrottop]

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0051720/

The old guy from the BG dub (real name Paul Bandey) has actually had a very respectable career as an actor in France these past 20-30 years, appearing in several major movies filmed there, which is less than can be said for Chris "hired off the street" Sabat.

I'm pretty sure he was just a victim of poor direction and a rushed schedule.

[Ree]

Doctor.: I do see criticism for Recoome and Jeice but I see some praise too. Zarbon is at least criticized too.
Haven't looked for Nappa and I saw no criticism for Guru.

Kakacarrottop: nice to see you back!
thanks for this info! How did you find out about it?
I'm glad to have some closure on Big Green and it appears he voiced less characters than we actually thought.

[dario03]

I've never really understood these kinds of threads. I'm sure you have seen criticism and praise for those characters but that is because different people have different opinions.

[Ree]

I get that, my problem is hypocricy as opposed to different opinion.

[dario03]

But how do you know its all hypocrisy? A lot of times it is different people saying different things about the voice actors and even if it is the same person they might genuinely think one performance was fine and the other was bad.

[VegettoEX]

Sabat absolutely took an obscene amount of criticism back when when it was relevant. That was 15+ years ago.

It's not relevant anymore. He's given up many roles since then and has proven himself to be an incredible fan of and ally to the show with creative decisions that have impacted it in a significant, positive way.

[Ree]

Hello there VegettoEX and thanks for approving my account!

[ABED]

I don't know if this affects anyone's opinion but he got so many roles because the talent pool was so limited at the time and he had a distinctly deep voice.

[Ree]

I actually think that might weaken people's opinion

[ABED]

I actually think that might weaken people's opinion

How do you figure?