Is Shen Long endless?
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Is Shen Long endless?
What I mean is, in the anime, whenever Shen Long is summoned, his tail/end of his body, keeps coming out of the Dragon Balls. It's never conveyed as moving in the manga. I know GT made him have and end when they were flying, but I'm taking canon Shen Long. Does Shen Long's body keep going or does it stop?
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Re: Is Shen Long endless?
The model he is born form has an end, so I would assume the real dragon does as well.


Re: Is Shen Long endless?
It sure seems like he's endless but I'd say he does have a tail. In some shots you can clearly see his rear legs and after those his body starts to taper off and grow thinner and thinner till it meets the dragon balls. Whether the tapering is due to the magic of the dragon balls or not, I can't say but with how he's drawn (I've never seen Shen long with more then four legs.) I'd assume his tail would come not long after his rear legs show. Plus you know as TDC pointed out above.
However a small sidenote is how outrageously inconsistent his size is across the franchise! The above image is from Dragon Ball when Goku is reviving Bora but below are some examples of just how big (and small.) they will draw him sometimes. Which probably is the reason we ask this question.
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Re: Is Shen Long endless?
I think he can change his size at will.
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Re: Is Shen Long endless?
I only noticed Shen Long's endless body the other day. Given that Shen Long isn't immortal and can be recreated and destroyed, maybe the term "Eternal Dragon" refers to his body size, not his lifespan. His body doesn't end, it's eternal.
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Re: Is Shen Long endless?
He's mostly magic, he can grow as long as he wants to. Just like genie from Aladdin.
Even poruga's tail looked like it kept growing .
Even poruga's tail looked like it kept growing .
Re: Is Shen Long endless?
Considering how powerful shenron is even his power stronger than any beings ever existed even the old kai is affraid of it, the logical reasoning is shenron is summoned and not created. In the manga dragongod or dragonball has existed in the oldest recorded date that dragonball has ever stated too.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:The model he is born form has an end, so I would assume the real dragon does as well.
Shenron maybe has no shape at all or that is the original shape of the shenron itself.
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Re: Is Shen Long endless?
Shenron wasn't so powerful that Piccolo couldn't kill him.GTX wrote:Considering how powerful shenron is even his power stronger than any beings ever existed even the old kai is affraid of it, the logical reasoning is shenron is summoned and not created. In the manga dragongod or dragonball has existed in the oldest recorded date that dragonball has ever stated too.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:The model he is born form has an end, so I would assume the real dragon does as well.
Shenron maybe has no shape at all or that is the original shape of the shenron itself.
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Re: Is Shen Long endless?
Shenron can do mass reviving even god of creation cannot.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Shenron wasn't so powerful that Piccolo couldn't kill him.GTX wrote:Considering how powerful shenron is even his power stronger than any beings ever existed even the old kai is affraid of it, the logical reasoning is shenron is summoned and not created. In the manga dragongod or dragonball has existed in the oldest recorded date that dragonball has ever stated too.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:The model he is born form has an end, so I would assume the real dragon does as well.
Shenron maybe has no shape at all or that is the original shape of the shenron itself.
Shenron cannot be killed he can be re summoned by fixing the dragonball.
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Re: Is Shen Long endless?
Uh...proof he can't be killed? Because we see him get killed. Everyone says he was killed.GTX wrote: Shenron cannot be killed he can be re summoned by fixing the dragonball.
I suggest you reread the material before proclaiming your theories as fact. Kami created Shenron, he didn't "summon" him.
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He could be already senile by that statement because dragon god has existed since old kai era and old kai fear it. It's restricted only for namekian because they're peace loving races he must be have forgotten about that ruling.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Uh...proof he can't be killed? Because we see him get killed. Everyone says he was killed.GTX wrote: Shenron cannot be killed he can be re summoned by fixing the dragonball.
I suggest you reread the material before proclaiming your theories as fact. Kami created Shenron, he didn't "summon" him.
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Re: Is Shen Long endless?
If the dragon was just "summoned" by Kami or the Great Elder, then why would it die when they did?GTX wrote:He could be already senile by that statement because dragon god has existed since old kai era and old kai fear it. It's restricted only for namekian because they're peace loving races he must be have forgotten about that ruling.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Uh...proof he can't be killed? Because we see him get killed. Everyone says he was killed.GTX wrote: Shenron cannot be killed he can be re summoned by fixing the dragonball.
I suggest you reread the material before proclaiming your theories as fact. Kami created Shenron, he didn't "summon" him.
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Re: Is Shen Long endless?
Well, Shenron is quite inconsisten in size. That has always happened on the show and movies. I don't think he is endless though.
What I just noticed, he has 4 fingers. That's why when watching Super he looked wrong somehow... he had 5 fingers there.
What I just noticed, he has 4 fingers. That's why when watching Super he looked wrong somehow... he had 5 fingers there.
Re: Is Shen Long endless?
he is not die because Piccolo destroyed the dragonball using that attack. Shenron cannot transmit his power and his appearance anymore.If the dragon was just "summoned" by Kami or the Great Elder, then why would it die when they did?
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Re: Is Shen Long endless?
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Re: Is Shen Long endless?
The Dragon Balls weren't destroyed, just the dragon.GTX wrote:he is not die because Piccolo destroyed the dragonball using that attack. Shenron cannot transmit his power and his appearance anymore.If the dragon was just "summoned" by Kami or the Great Elder, then why would it die when they did?
Again, everything in the story itself said that Shenron was killed. You're going to have to try a lot harder if you want to convince anyone otherwise.
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What? Read the manga the dragonball is destroyed and need to be fixed. they think shenron is dead because they just lack of knowledge.Kamiccolo9 wrote:The Dragon Balls weren't destroyed, just the dragon.GTX wrote:he is not die because Piccolo destroyed the dragonball using that attack. Shenron cannot transmit his power and his appearance anymore.If the dragon was just "summoned" by Kami or the Great Elder, then why would it die when they did?
Again, everything in the story itself said that Shenron was killed. You're going to have to try a lot harder if you want to convince anyone otherwise.
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Re: Is Shen Long endless?
No, the Dragon Balls revert to stone because the wish was made. They are still there. Piccolo doesn't even attack the balls; he shoots a mouth blast at Shenron, and the dragon explodes.GTX wrote: What? Read the manga the dragonball is destroyed and need to be fixed. they think shenron is dead because they just lack of knowledge.
They don't "lack" anything. Kami made Shenron, and later he resurrects him. This is all directly stated in the manga. I suggest you read it.
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Which chapter is that i forget about it?Kamiccolo9 wrote:No, the Dragon Balls revert to stone because the wish was made. They are still there. Piccolo doesn't even attack the balls; he shoots a mouth blast at Shenron, and the dragon explodes.GTX wrote: What? Read the manga the dragonball is destroyed and need to be fixed. they think shenron is dead because they just lack of knowledge.
They don't "lack" anything. Kami made Shenron, and later he resurrects him. This is all directly stated in the manga. I suggest you read it.
I actually remember that the dragonball is broken too so i want to check it.
If by ressurecting it by fixing the statue, it so ambiguous.
Kami in that chapter do depicted to be more resemble to the real god of creation because he can create anything and making him much more powerful than the original god of creation.
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Re: Is Shen Long endless?
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/manga/chp-148/ He kills Shenron in chapter 148.GTX wrote:Which chapter is that i forget about it?Kamiccolo9 wrote:No, the Dragon Balls revert to stone because the wish was made. They are still there. Piccolo doesn't even attack the balls; he shoots a mouth blast at Shenron, and the dragon explodes.GTX wrote: What? Read the manga the dragonball is destroyed and need to be fixed. they think shenron is dead because they just lack of knowledge.
They don't "lack" anything. Kami made Shenron, and later he resurrects him. This is all directly stated in the manga. I suggest you read it.
I actually remember that the dragonball is broken too so i want to check it.
If by ressurecting it by fixing the statue, it so ambiguous.
Kami in that chapter do depicted to be more resemble to the real god of creation because he can create anything and making him much more powerful than the original god of creation.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/manga/chp-165/ And Kami brings him back to life in chapter 165. Note that Shenron says "I was brought back to life." Not "I was summoned back," or "he remade me."
And I have no idea what your last sentence is saying. You need to word that better.
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