Is kienzan the most Overpowered attack in the DBZ universe?

Rockman X · Post by **Rockman X** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:44 am

I mean if Nappa didn't dodge he would've been decapitated and krillin could've just decapitated 2nd form Freeza as well i mean WTF? this is insane how overpowered this attack is.

Considering the fact that Krillin isn't even half as strong as Nappa or Freeza this attack is so overpowered.

Lunatic Fringe · Post by **Lunatic Fringe** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:50 am

Although it's filler, Krillin couldn't even faze Cell with his Kienzan. Although the Kienzan has unique properties in damage dispersing, since it doesn't cover a broad area like more conventional ki attacks, much like the aforementioned ki attacks, the ratio of power between the summoner and the target usually determines how much damage is done, although there's no reason to believe that the limits for something like the Kienzan aren't any higher due to how damage is distributed. But there's also one other thing that needs to be taken into consideration. Speed. No matter how powerful, an easy to dodge attack is still easy to dodge and much like damage dispersing, the ratio of power between the summoner and the target usually determines how easy or difficult it will be to avoid it off of speed alone.

nickzambuto · Post by **nickzambuto** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:22 am

In terms of sheer damaging ability, Krillin did indeed create the most lethal attack in the franchise. However it is not OP, it has major drawbacks that, in the end, make the Kikoho and Final Flash a lot more efficient in my opinion. Namely the area of effect, it is incredibly easy to avoid a Kienzan, Krillin couldn't tag Nappa and only barely tagged Freeza by catching him off guard.

h0kuten · Post by **h0kuten** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 1:36 pm

It's to slow and become irrelevant after the Frieza Saga.

It's only relevant in surprise attacks.

Friezacooler · Post by **Friezacooler** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:14 pm

All the attacks are overpowered, depending on who is using it.

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:34 pm

I'd say the Taiyoken is the most overpowered attack in the DBZ universe. That attack has a 100% success rate. Taiyoken followed up by an ultimate attack is practically a one hit kill.

FoolsGil · Post by **FoolsGil** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 3:53 pm

Maybe if Krillin took time to improve the technique. Off the top of my head, make it faster, make it controllable, and that one Kienzan Tornado that Krillin does in Multiverse against Tapion? Learn that, and the Kienzan would be the most OP.

Polyphase Avatron · Post by **Polyphase Avatron** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:11 pm

What about Akumaito beam

nickzambuto · Post by **nickzambuto** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:19 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:I'd say the Taiyoken is the most overpowered attack in the DBZ universe. That attack has a 100% success rate. Taiyoken followed up by an ultimate attack is practically a one hit kill.

Solar Flare became obsolete as soon as it was introduced, with Goku outrunning the light and grabbing Roshi's sunglasses. It only works if the target doesn't know what it is, like against Dodoria. If you're facing someone who knows to avoid it, then they probably will, unless the opponent is weaker than Kid Goku.

ekrolo2 · Post by **ekrolo2** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:27 pm

Even characters who know it fall trap to it. Case in point: Piccolo vs Cell. Cell went on a whole spiel about having & knowing all their moves and demonstrated this by using the Kamehameha and Piccolo still didn't see the Solar Flare coming.

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:37 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Even characters who know it fall trap to it. Case in point: Piccolo vs Cell. Cell went on a whole spiel about having & knowing all their moves and demonstrated this by using the Kamehameha and Piccolo still didn't see the Solar Flare coming.

Same thing happened with Cell when he used the Taiyoken against #18 and absorbed her while she was blinded.

ekrolo2 · Post by **ekrolo2** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:41 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Even characters who know it fall trap to it. Case in point: Piccolo vs Cell. Cell went on a whole spiel about having & knowing all their moves and demonstrated this by using the Kamehameha and Piccolo still didn't see the Solar Flare coming.
Same thing happened with Cell when he used the Taiyoken against #18 and absorbed her while she was blinded.

You'd think Krillin would at least would know to dodge that one

predazunn · Post by **predazunn** » Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:34 pm

It's up there!

Dabura's spit is overpowered , going by the fact that Buu avoided it rather than circumvented it. Still we can't say what would have happened...

Devil mite beam in theory could defeat Frieza and Buu

Mafuba possibly as well, it's convenient that the Z fighters 'forgot' about it'

but if you want OP then look no further than Buu. Regeneration + chocolate beam/absorbing through his skin is unreal.

Low Tone G · Post by **Low Tone G** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:05 am

It's not the Spirit Bomb?

Lord Beerus · Post by **Lord Beerus** » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:38 am

Low Tone G wrote:It's not the Spirit Bomb?

Takes too long to charge and it can be pushed back.

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