Is the last episode of DBZ still canon?

[DBZfan2015]

Now that Super Saiyan Gods and Beerus are part of the universe, does it create problems for the final episode of DBZ where Goku meets Uub?

[fadeddreams5]

Why would it?

[DBZfan2015]

After the SSGod and SSGodSS tranformation, and fighting people like Beerus and Whis, why would Goku be interested in a kid who has the same power level as Kid Buu?

It's like having a guy, who is far stronger than Cell, be impressed by a kid who has the same power level as Cell.

[Chuquita]

I'd say the possibility for EoZ showing up at the end of Super is low right now, and we won't really know until we find out if Uni 6 has a big time skip or not. (I feel like it won't though.).

There's also the fact that the characters introduced in EoZ have stronger associations with GT than Z in the fandom's collective memories for better or worse. The first impressions and already been made.

[Lord Beerus]

It all depends on how successful Super is.

[irreality]

After the SSGod and SSGodSS tranformation, and fighting people like Beerus and Whis, why would Goku be interested in a kid who has the same power level as Kid Buu?

It's like having a guy, who is far stronger than Cell, be impressed by a kid who has the same power level as Cell.

We don't know Uubs power level. He might have never been anywhere *near* kid buu in EoZ. But because he has Kid Buu's soul, Goku figures he has potential and thus needs to be trained and will yield a good fight. Even if he is SSG, that doesn't dismiss the fact that Uub might have even greater potential and would probably have an interesting fighting attitude. I mean, did the soul of whoever was reincarnated as Goku have a SSG's power level? Probably not. But Goku surpassed that potential he had at birth by leaps and bounds.

[fadeddreams5]

After the SSGod and SSGodSS tranformation, and fighting people like Beerus and Whis, why would Goku be interested in a kid who has the same power level as Kid Buu?

For one of two reasons:
1. Frieza, after 4 month, became as strong as or stronger than a SSJG. Kid Buu was born with a power infinitely larger than Frieza's, so imagine how strong he'd get if he trained. Goku assumes Uub will possess a certain level of strength, even without training, and he's right. Seeing this, he figures he has unlimited potential. Whether he's right or wrong, we may never know.

2. Buu may very well be the focus of a certain part of Super. I mean, at one point, Goku needs to be told that he's been reincarnated. As the story stands right now, Kaioshin believes Bibidi created Buu. We know through an interview that this is not the case and that Buu actually existed before, possibly, even Beerus was born. Super recently added the revelation of Old Kai being sealed by Beerus, so this new origin of Buu may make it too.

[SpiritBombTriumphant]

Seeing as Goku and Vegeta are fairly old by that point, and Gohan has been nerfed to hell, I don't see how Uub still can't be relevant with his powers being equivalent to Majin Buu's. Goku and Vegeta need a successor and Uub is perfect for that.

[ekrolo2]

Seeing as Goku and Vegeta are fairly old by that point, and Gohan has been nerfed to hell, I don't see how Uub still can't be relevant with his powers being equivalent to Majin Buu's. Goku and Vegeta need a successor and Uub is perfect for that.

Goku is physically only 40 years old by that point and Vegeta was 44 in the Buu saga yet his "old age" didn't impair him in the slightest. Toriyama's recent age statement is also fairly stupid as he went out of his way to explain why the cast can keep on fighting even longer due to their Saiyan genes.

[Son Edo]

I wish they wouldn't retcon all these things.

[Relenanator]

I'm sort of glad Ubb has been retconed. He felt like a last minuet tacked on character that nobody cared about in the first place. I'm also glad that the new movies (and hopefully Supper) aged up Pan's birth so that she might be old enough to hang out with the rest of the new gen. The only thing I hope they don't change is her adorable Goku-Esq tomboy attitude. I mean, it seems that she can already go SSJ (or has the potential to really REALLY easily). I hope they don't turn her into some ordinary girl like every other chick in this show has turned out to be.

[Chuquita]

I miss "takes after Gokû in personality" Pan so much. I really liked her in Z. Then GT went and decided "let's just make her a younger, less wise version of Videl". I'd like Super to keep chip off Gokû's block Pan. Gokû having a relative he can relate to was adorable to watch in EoZ.

[Hellspawn28]

After the SSGod and SSGodSS tranformation, and fighting people like Beerus and Whis, why would Goku be interested in a kid who has the same power level as Kid Buu?

It's like having a guy, who is far stronger than Cell, be impressed by a kid who has the same power level as Cell.

Goku wanted a student to train with and he wanted Buu to have another chance in life as a good person. So far the only thing from end of DBZ has changed is when Goku called Buu his strongest opponent when Beerus, Freeza and other villains later down the line are way more stronger. Also a issue with Pan's age also seems to be a issue too.

[Ree]

hopefully not.
because it sucked that bad! for reasons already explained by other people before.

[Froggy]

it is part of the original manga written and drawn by akira toriyama while he was still right in his mind.

so yes, it is canon.


*you meant the anime ? well since its not a filler episode, then yes.

[Cipher]

I miss "takes after Gokû in personality" Pan so much. I really liked her in Z. Then GT went and decided "let's just make her a younger, less wise version of Videl". I'd like Super to keep chip off Gokû's block Pan. Gokû having a relative he can relate to was adorable to watch in EoZ.

Pan is still very much Goku's granddaughter in GT, especially as the series goes on. But its a Pan Goku selfishly hasn't seen during formative years, and that's there for them to work out at the beginning.

Not sure it's flawlessly executed, but it's a dynamic I can get behind.

Re: The topic: I don't know. At this point it's still the ending, but the longer we spend in this new era, the more I hope we receive a new ending, as awkward as it may be having just adapted that content in Kai. I quite like the manga/Z ending, but it has a lot more impact coming off the Boo arc and its presumed ten years of peaceful ennui for Goku than it would now. The JSAT special was a perfect precursor to it though.

[MCDaveG]

After the SSGod and SSGodSS tranformation, and fighting people like Beerus and Whis, why would Goku be interested in a kid who has the same power level as Kid Buu?

It's like having a guy, who is far stronger than Cell, be impressed by a kid who has the same power level as Cell.

This is simple. You are martial arts psycho, wanna challenge strong people. Your two kids are weak slackers and there is this kid who is one of your biggest foes reincarnated
and has huge potential, so instead of leaving him be, you train him. Also you will entrust him this part of your life, that gets annoying - protecting your home planet - and go to pursue some other goals.
Why not.

[SaiyaSith]

I'm sort of glad Ubb has been retconed. He felt like a last minuet tacked on character that nobody cared about in the first place. I'm also glad that the new movies (and hopefully Supper) aged up Pan's birth so that she might be old enough to hang out with the rest of the new gen. The only thing I hope they don't change is her adorable Goku-Esq tomboy attitude. I mean, it seems that she can already go SSJ (or has the potential to really REALLY easily). I hope they don't turn her into some ordinary girl like every other chick in this show has turned out to be.

Uub hasn't been reconnected. I don't know why anyone would think this?

[Kuririn Fan]

Yes, the last episode of DBZ is canon.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

It's anime canon and as of right now it seams like it half and half will/ wont fit for the manga canon, but until it's retconned blaintintly it's still canon to the manga and anime.