New installments

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New installments

Post by Strife1 » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:01 pm

I was wondering why most people didn't like super...I was wondering why I didn't like super.
The movies are easy to like. New enemy comes, is defeated, end of story.
In super the enemy comes, we know what happens already, blah blah. Even though Beerus is powerful, there is no sense of fear. All of the warriors are together at all times and Goku/Vegeta finishes.
I remember when the 2008 OVA came out, I was excited because the kids were the ones to fight, but still they had back up.
There is no sense of fear.
Super is just kind of thrown into the mix. Especially with Beerus. There's minor backstory, no leading up to it. Just oh hey super powerful enemy, new transformation.
With Dragonball, it was the initial telling of the story. Everything on earth was new. You had no idea who the most powerful was, how many more people are more powerful, what measures have to be taken, what motivations people have, etc. It was new and fresh.
With Dragonball Z we had established characters and we had an enemy immediately thrown into the mix. No divine intervention, no divine advice, just a sense of...the unknown.
Dragonball Z is exciting because it establishes a fear of xenophobia. After this impossibly strong adversary dies, there are two more coming and we have no idea if anyone's going to die. In the Namek saga same thing, the most 'powerful' being in the universe runs this corporation with hundreds of adversaries around the same strength as or more powerful than our main characters. And they do it while Goku is out of commission. GT is bad, but it's fun because it places that fear of the unknown and sense of adventure, main problem is that Goku is the only one doing anything.
Super is just, not as exciting, because we've seen to much of the Dragonball Universe. We know the quadrants, the Gods of the quadrants, the Gods of those Gods, and they're all powerless. Dragonball Z doesn't need to die by any means, but to keep most people interested, they're going to have to bring it back down, make it more simple. Because the more grand it becomes and more powerful, the harder it will be to top that. As far as power, transformations, and Godly beings go, Dragonball may have already reached it's peak.
It may be time to degrade power to upgrade the shows potential. At this point it would be more fun to see 1,000 years into the future in the dragonball universe starring a descendant of the Z-warriors fighting- nevermind. I'll save that for my incarnation of dbz.

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Re: New installments

Post by precita » Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:55 pm

Super's only problem is re-doing the story of the movies stretched out to 14 episodes.

Once Super does new material we can judge it properly. I did like the first two episodes

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Re: New installments

Post by TheGreatness25 » Sun Oct 11, 2015 1:59 pm

Imagine that it just keeps redoing things, though?

Starts with Battle of Gods, goes through the Jump Special, then moves onto Resurrection F, and then possibly another movie that might be released until it gets there, and then it's over?

I know what you're thinking - "No way! That's ridiculous!" I also thought it would be ridiculous to use the series to adapt a movie that came out two years ago, but here we are.

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