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Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by successoroffate » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:26 pm

Let's go straight into it:

1. Both titles are considered Spin offs/Different timeline entries in their respective franchises. Majora's mask if you are Zelda fan, is a complete departure from the events of Ocarina of Time. GT does the same to the DB franchise. Even if it fits in any time and space from the franchise, it poses some plot holes when compared with DBZ and Super if you may add as well. In fact, you could say Majora's mask created a new Zelda Timeline just like GT did as well.
2. The World is ending within a specific amount of time in both titles. The moon hitting the earth within 3 days and the earth exploding after a year are self explanatory.
3. Fans wonder their canonicity very often. This one is likely to be more on the side of GT and it has been debated number of times.
4. Majora's Mask has the same characters from OoT, While GT uses the same characters from Z.
5. Is Link dead on Majora's Mask and Became a Stalfos? Is Goku dead at the end of GT? Again, has been debated a number of times.
6. Both titles have a very dark aura/feeling around them. Majora's Mask is pretty dark. Take having the moon looking at you every day for instance. In GT, the aura is very unsettling and makes you feel uneasy (My case). Everything goes south on GT really fast. There's is no break, just pure destruction follows every time a moment of hope is created. Hope doesn't last in GT. Majora's mask it's tied up to hell and death.
7. Both titles are loved and hated by fans. Majora's may win this one. The fan base supporting Majora's is really out there. My self included. However, for GT, the dislike comments seems to be more popular.
8. Both titles were advertised as Sequels to their predecessors but turned out to be something completely different.
9. GT and Majora's mask may be considered as timeline ending entries, as nothing comes further on in the same timeline.

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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by DB1984 » Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:18 pm

How about another one:

In GT, Goku, who is a kid, alternates between that and his Super Saiyan 4 form. In MM, Link, who is a kid, alternates between one of four different transformation masks, that allow him to take the form of: A Deku Scrub, a Goron, a Zora, and a Fierce Deity, the last one he can only get if he collects all 24 masks.

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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by Sandubadear » Mon Nov 30, 2015 6:45 pm

Man, that's a real stretch there.
1. Both titles are considered Spin offs/Different timeline entries in their respective franchises. Majora's mask if you are Zelda fan, is a complete departure from the events of Ocarina of Time. GT does the same to the DB franchise. Even if it fits in any time and space from the franchise, it poses some plot holes when compared with DBZ and Super if you may add as well. In fact, you could say Majora's mask created a new Zelda Timeline just like GT did as well.
Majora's Mask is a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time, it's just set in a different dimension (Termina, not Hyrule). GT is, say, a different timeline, but same dimension.
5. Is Link dead on Majora's Mask and Became a Stalfos? Is Goku dead at the end of GT? Again, has been debated a number of times.
9. GT and Majora's mask may be considered as timeline ending entries, as nothing comes further on in the same timeline.
Iirc, in the Zelda timeline, Twilight Princess comes after Majora's Mask (though it's in Hyrule, not in Termina).
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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by Cipher » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:45 pm

1) Green-and-purple-hued bold color palettes.

2) I love both.

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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by Captain-Sora » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:00 pm

GT's color palette was made up of more pinkish hues, warm colors and other darker tones. It felt like the series was stuck under a permanent afternoon setting, even when the sky was blue.

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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by successoroffate » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:09 am

Cipher wrote:1) Green-and-purple-hued bold color palettes.

2) I love both.
This is true, the color palettes are similar.
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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by Cipher » Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:47 am

Captain-Sora wrote:GT's color palette was made up of more pinkish hues, warm colors and other darker tones. It felt like the series was stuck under a permanent afternoon setting, even when the sky was blue.
They're not dead-wringers by any means, but in terms of the kinds of color combinations they turn to, they're not radically far off.

GT's big on the purple/green/pink-ish combinations, in both the opening and its final arc.
It felt like the series was stuck under a permanent afternoon setting, even when the sky was blue.
Yeah; it very rarely feels like high-noon. The only setting I can think of that feels very bright and accurate to early day is the hospital planet, when they're outdoors.

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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by Bulma's Foot Masseur » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:26 pm

DB1984 wrote:How about another one:

In GT, Goku, who is a kid, alternates between that and his Super Saiyan 4 form. In MM, Link, who is a kid, alternates between one of four different transformation masks, that allow him to take the form of: A Deku Scrub, a Goron, a Zora, and a Fierce Deity, the last one he can only get if he collects all 24 masks.
Fierce Deity Link is the main one to point out here. Link goes from kid to adult (temporarily), gains a dark edgy appearance, and the origin of the transformation is even directly correlated with a nearby heavenly body. (Goku looks at it, Link goes inside it.)

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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by successoroffate » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:47 pm

Bulma's Foot Masseur wrote:
DB1984 wrote:How about another one:

In GT, Goku, who is a kid, alternates between that and his Super Saiyan 4 form. In MM, Link, who is a kid, alternates between one of four different transformation masks, that allow him to take the form of: A Deku Scrub, a Goron, a Zora, and a Fierce Deity, the last one he can only get if he collects all 24 masks.
Fierce Deity Link is the main one to point out here. Link goes from kid to adult (temporarily), gains a dark edgy appearance, and the origin of the transformation is even directly correlated with a nearby heavenly body. (Goku looks at it, Link goes inside it.)
I like both ideas. Good to see that I wasn't that crazy.
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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by Avenged » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:06 pm

Majora's Mask is not a spin off however and is 100% canon to the series.
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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by successoroffate » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:14 pm

Avenged wrote:Majora's Mask is not a spin off however and is 100% canon to the series.
Majora's mask may not even be real at all. It may be all created by Link's mind. Anything that created a different timeline for me, it's close to a spin off. If he Died and became a Stalfos by getting lost in Lost Woods, then it does not fit anywhere.
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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by Sandubadear » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:17 pm

successoroffate wrote:
Avenged wrote:Majora's Mask is not a spin off however and is 100% canon to the series.
Majora's mask may not even be real at all. It may be all created by Link's mind. Anything that created a different timeline for me, it's close to a spin off. If he Died and became a Stalfos by getting lost in Lost Woods, then it does not fit anywhere.
Then Ocarina of Time would be a spin off, since that's the one who created 3 different timelines (Child Timeline, Adult Timeline, and the "Link died" timeline).
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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by successoroffate » Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:10 pm

Sandubadear wrote:
successoroffate wrote:
Avenged wrote:Majora's Mask is not a spin off however and is 100% canon to the series.
Majora's mask may not even be real at all. It may be all created by Link's mind. Anything that created a different timeline for me, it's close to a spin off. If he Died and became a Stalfos by getting lost in Lost Woods, then it does not fit anywhere.
Then Ocarina of Time would be a spin off, since that's the one who created 3 different timelines (Child Timeline, Adult Timeline, and the "Link died" timeline).
I meant the events of the entry happened in a different timeline. Probably my crappy engrish got in the way, sorry.

Both GT and Majora's may fit the definition of Spin-off according to Merriam Webster:

"something that is imitative or derivative of an earlier work, product, or establishment; especially : a television show starring a character popular in a secondary role of an earlier show."

For GT it's obvious. For Majora's, we have to remember that Majora's started as Ura Zelda, which was set to be an expansion of Ocarina.
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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by OutlawTorn » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:11 am

successoroffate wrote:For GT it's obvious. For Majora's, we have to remember that Majora's started as Ura Zelda, which was set to be an expansion of Ocarina.
No, Majora's Mask is completely separate from Ura Zelda, which dealt exclusively with Ocarina of Time. Majora's Mask, on the other hand, was originally referred to as Zelda Gaiden, which was always intended to be a new adventure. What was Ura Zelda was essentially released as "Ocarina of Time Master Quest" on a Gamecube promotional disc. Unlike Zelda Gaiden, Ura Zelda was intended as an expansion upon Ocarina of Time, containing alternate versions of the dungeons (much like the second quest of the original Zelda game) along with new enemies. Ultimately, the alternate dungeons is what was salvaged from Ura Zelda following the demise of the 64DD project.
4. Majora's Mask has the same characters from OoT, While GT uses the same characters from Z.
With a few exceptions, it uses the same character models to represent the inhabitants of Termina. That is one of the things which allowed for the short production period for Majora's Mask following Ocarina of Time. The only real returning characters in the game are Link, Epona, the Skull Kid and the Happy Mask Salesman.
8. Both titles were advertised as Sequels to their predecessors but turned out to be something completely different.
Majora's Mask is a sequel, it picks up following the events of Ocarina of Time. Its backstory describes Link's search for Navi after she flew off at the end of Ocarina and, ultimately, Link being set upon a quest to retrieve Majora's Mask by the Happy Mask Salesman. It is naturally very different as it leads Link to Termina, but it would have to be as simply setting another game in Hyrule and against Ganon would have been a retread.
9. GT and Majora's mask may be considered as timeline ending entries, as nothing comes further on in the same timeline.
Majora's Mask was the first entry of the "Child" timeline, which moved forward with Twilight Princess. As the games are (typically) not produced in chronological order, we cannot say for certain whether or not the timeline ends. The timeline gets especially confusing as Nintendo cannot decide what the start of the timeline should be, originally placing Ocarina of Time at the start, then declaring Skyward Sword to be the first story and now hints that the next game will be the first story. My own personal take is I don't care about any convoluted timelines, I just play the game to play the game. For the most part, the installments are like Final Fantasy games with each game being distinct from the others and with the exception of the direct sequels, each Link and Zelda are different entities with different histories than the ones in other games.

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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by Ringworm128 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:19 am

Glad to know I'm not the only one who see's some minor similarities.

Some really old posts of mine. Sorry if they seem a little crass.
I've always seen similarities between Piccolo Daimao and Ganondorf. Ganondorf wanted the Triforce; Piccolo wanted the Dragonballs. Link challenged Ganondorf but lost; Goku challenged Piccolo but lost. Ganondorf got the Triforce and plunged Hyrule into chaos; Piccolo got the Dragonballs and plunged The World into chaos. Link got The Master Sword and beat Gannon; Goku drank the Super Special Awesome Water (Sorry, can't remember what it's actually called. There are that many types of mystic water in Dragonball that I can't remember which is which.) and beat Piccolo. Also Piccolo Daimao was sealed away and escaped like Ganondorf did in TP and WW. Also Zant could be compared to Pilaf with the whole helping the villain get to full power thing.
Necro posting because I don't think this needs its own thread. But I noticed some similarities between Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans and The Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask for one thing both are gaidens in fact MM beta name was Zelda Gaiden. Dr Lychee could be compared to Skull Kid both were trying to destroy the land using a device that gave them great power. The Destron Gas could be compared to Skull Kid poisoning Woodfall freezing Snowhead etc. And Majora's Mask itself could be compared to Hacchi Hyack both were created to destroy and in the end became living creatures. Also the Destron Gas killing everyone in 70 days could be compared to the moon and all the curses killing everyone in 3 days. I know its a little silly but its something I've been wanting to point out for a while now.

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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by successoroffate » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:39 am

OutlawTorn wrote:
successoroffate wrote:For GT it's obvious. For Majora's, we have to remember that Majora's started as Ura Zelda, which was set to be an expansion of Ocarina.
Majora's Mask, on the other hand, was originally referred to as Zelda Gaiden, which was always intended to be a new adventure.
Zelda Gaiden means that Majora's was a spin-off then. Just like GT to DB.
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Re: Similarities between GT and Majora's mask.

Post by successoroffate » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:45 am

ringworm128 wrote:Glad to know I'm not the only one who see's some minor similarities.

Some really old posts of mine. Sorry if they seem a little crass.
I've always seen similarities between Piccolo Daimao and Ganondorf. Ganondorf wanted the Triforce; Piccolo wanted the Dragonballs. Link challenged Ganondorf but lost; Goku challenged Piccolo but lost. Ganondorf got the Triforce and plunged Hyrule into chaos; Piccolo got the Dragonballs and plunged The World into chaos. Link got The Master Sword and beat Gannon; Goku drank the Super Special Awesome Water (Sorry, can't remember what it's actually called. There are that many types of mystic water in Dragonball that I can't remember which is which.) and beat Piccolo. Also Piccolo Daimao was sealed away and escaped like Ganondorf did in TP and WW. Also Zant could be compared to Pilaf with the whole helping the villain get to full power thing.
Necro posting because I don't think this needs its own thread. But I noticed some similarities between Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans and The Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask for one thing both are gaidens in fact MM beta name was Zelda Gaiden. Dr Lychee could be compared to Skull Kid both were trying to destroy the land using a device that gave them great power. The Destron Gas could be compared to Skull Kid poisoning Woodfall freezing Snowhead etc. And Majora's Mask itself could be compared to Hacchi Hyack both were created to destroy and in the end became living creatures. Also the Destron Gas killing everyone in 70 days could be compared to the moon and all the curses killing everyone in 3 days. I know its a little silly but its something I've been wanting to point out for a while now.
Thanks for sharing! : D
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