Making the movies fit the timeline

[TheZFighter]

Hi guys, a bit of brainstorming (sorry, I know that isn't the politically correct term anymore. It was when I was at school though!). Interested to hear ideas from other people.

A couple of the movies already fit nicely into the timeline without any trouble. Dead Zone fits before the start of DBZ pretty well, Cooler's Revenge fits during the three years prior to the Android's arrival, Broly - The Legendary Super Saiyan fits in the 10 days prior to the Cell Games, Bojack Unbound fits after Cell's defeat and Wrath of the Dragon fits after Kid Buu's defeat. The rest don't quite fit though, for various reasons such as character's knowing certain abilities or being somewhere else (like on Namek!) at that point, etc.

What I'm wondering is where you'd want to fit other movies on the timeline, and what changes you would make to the story to make them blend in smoother.

Example being Tree of Might, a personal favourite of mine, which you'd probably want to take place prior to the Andriod's arrival as well, but obviously Goku would be Super Saiyan and all the other Z Fighters were much more powerful as well, so you'd probably want to power up Turles and his minions accordingly, and maybe even make Turles a Super Saiyan as well. You'd also have to address Gohan's lack of tail.

Anyway, very interested to hear your thoughts and ideas guys. Maybe provoke a little discussion. Thanks guys, get your creative juices flowing!

[Draconic]

https://word.office.live.com/wv/WordVie ... e+Universe

Old thing I did.

[TheZFighter]

https://word.office.live.com/wv/WordVie ... e+Universe

Old thing I did.

Yeah that is the sort of thing I was looking for. An interesting read, thank you!

[FoolsGil]

You would need to do some rewrites. Change some lines, change some really important dates, even change some character designs. Some movies are just impossible to place, period.

[TheZFighter]

You would need to do some rewrites. Change some lines, change some really important dates, even change some character designs. Some movies are just impossible to place, period.

That is what I mean. I'm interested as to the sorts of changes other people would make.

[Cetra]

Fusion Reborn could fit with Goku and Vegeta not actually being a part of the Otherworld but just visiting for example. Cooler's Revenge could fit with certain changes about Namek and Dende and Vegeta transforming to a Super Saiyajin for the first time but not being able to control it afterwards (or probably not transforming at all, but I think the first one would be ... Cooler ...)

And so on.

[LightBing]

I recently saw the Garlic Jr movie, there's some plot holes, including one I find unacceptable. Besides Kuririn not knowing Gohan, when he should. There's Kami's suicide attack attempt. It's a super important point Gods cant kill themselves, did the writer of the movie not saw the 23rd TB Arc?

It's really difficult to fit the movies, too much stuff one would have to change and remove. I honestly couldn't do it even if I tried, there would always something bothering me if I embarked in such a quest.

You forgot the Tarble special, that one is very easy to fit. It's the only one I have in my main timeline "canon".

[Draconic]

https://word.office.live.com/wv/WordVie ... e+Universe

Old thing I did.

Yeah that is the sort of thing I was looking for. An interesting read, thank you!

You are welcome glad someone finally read that thing

[Lord Beerus]

Movie 1: The movie actually fits pretty well. If I were to nitpick, I'd remove Piccolo and in his place put in Yamcha and/or Tenshinhan, just to give the Earthlings more moments to shine. Otherwise, I wouldn't really change anything.

Movie 2: I'd have the movie take place during the period in which Goku was still in space after the conclusion of the Freeza arc and have the Earthlings who trained on King Kai's Planet (Tenshinhan, Yamcha and Chaozu) take centre stage to display the new strength they gained for King Kai's training.

Movie 3: Nope. This move just can't fit into the main timeline. Period. It must be majorly re-written.

Movie 4: Nope. This move just can't fit into the main timeline. Period. It must be majorly re-written.

Movie 5: Nope. This move just can't fit into the main timeline. Period. It must be majorly re-written.

Movie 6: Nope. This move just can't fit into the main timeline. Period. It must be majorly re-written.

Movie 7: Nope. This move just can't fit into the main timeline. Period. It must be majorly re-written.

Movie 8: The movie can take place during the 9 day waiting period before the Cell Games. It fits perfectly fine.

Movie 9: The movie can take places months or weeks after the Cell Games. It fits perfectly fine.

Movie 10: The movie can take place a short time before the 25th World Martial Arts Tournament begins but you'd have to remove any mention of Videl knowing what the Dragon Balls are

Movie 11: Nope. This move just can't fit into the main timeline. Period. It must be majorly re-written.

Movie 12: Nope. This move just can't fit into the main timeline. Period. It must be majorly re-written.

Movie 13: The movie can take places months or weeks after the Majin Boo arc. It fits perfectly fine.

[FoolsGil]

You would need to do some rewrites. Change some lines, change some really important dates, even change some character designs. Some movies are just impossible to place, period.

That is what I mean. I'm interested as to the sorts of changes other people would make.

Okay, here are my thoughts.

Transitioning from Dead Zone to Saiyan Saga

-Krillin would have to know who Gohan is, while Bulma and Master Roshi are the only ones wondering who he is.
-Krillin references Dead Zone while asking if Gohan will train, before Goku explains Chi Chi won't let it happen.
-Except for flashbacks, Gohan has amnesia of himself defeating Garlic Jr. Piccolo will also reference Gohan defeating Garlic Jr.

Transitioning from September 763(Namekians leaving to New Namek) to August 764 (Mecha-Freeza, Trunks showing up)

-Between September 763 and March 764, World's Strongest Happens. References to the Dragonballs being used are removed, Wheelo is alive and acting already. Krillin takes Goku's role, Gohan takes Krillin's role, Yamcha takes Gohan's role, with whatever editing is needed.

-Between March 764 and August 764, Tree of Might Happens. Dragonballs are used. Vegeta takes Goku's role, with whatever editing is needed

Between Three Years Training

-Lord Slug happens. Goku uses SSJ where Kaioken was used, Goku uses Super Kaioken where False Super Saiyan was used, with whatever editing is needed.

-Cooler's Revenge happens on New Namek with elements of Return of Cooler

Between Cell Games Training

-Broly I happens. Goku and Gohan are in their mastered transformed states throughout.

-Bojack Unbound happens in its proper place, any inconsistencies removed, including Gohan's SSJ2 impotency problem

-Wrath of the Dragon happens in its proper place, any inconsistencies removed

This would leave out Super Android 13, Broly 2, Broly 3, and Fusion Reborn

[TheZFighter]

Movie 1: The movie actually fits pretty well. If I were to nitpick, I'd remove Piccolo and in his place put in Yamcha and/or Tenshinhan, just to give the Earthlings more moments to shine. Otherwise, I wouldn't really change anything.

Movie 2: I'd have the movie take place during the period in which Goku was still in space after the conclusion of the Freeza arc and have the Earthlings who trained on King Kai's Planet (Tenshinhan, Yamcha and Chaozu) take centre stage to display the new strength they gained for King Kai's training.

Okay, here are my thoughts.

Transitioning from Dead Zone to Saiyan Saga

-Krillin would have to know who Gohan is, while Bulma and Master Roshi are the only ones wondering who he is.
-Krillin references Dead Zone while asking if Gohan will train, before Goku explains Chi Chi won't let it happen.
-Except for flashbacks, Gohan has amnesia of himself defeating Garlic Jr. Piccolo will also reference Gohan defeating Garlic Jr.

Transitioning from September 763(Namekians leaving to New Namek) to August 764 (Mecha-Freeza, Trunks showing up)

-Between September 763 and March 764, World's Strongest Happens. References to the Dragonballs being used are removed, Wheelo is alive and acting already. Krillin takes Goku's role, Gohan takes Krillin's role, Yamcha takes Gohan's role, with whatever editing is needed.

-Between March 764 and August 764, Tree of Might Happens. Dragonballs are used. Vegeta takes Goku's role, with whatever editing is needed

Between Three Years Training

-Lord Slug happens. Goku uses SSJ where Kaioken was used, Goku uses Super Kaioken where False Super Saiyan was used, with whatever editing is needed.

-Cooler's Revenge happens on New Namek with elements of Return of Cooler

Between Cell Games Training

-Broly I happens. Goku and Gohan are in their mastered transformed states throughout.

-Bojack Unbound happens in its proper place, any inconsistencies removed, including Gohan's SSJ2 impotency problem

-Wrath of the Dragon happens in its proper place, any inconsistencies removed

I'd not really ever considered replacing the stars of the movies to make the movies fit better. I like the idea of some of the lesser Z Fighters getting their moment.

[dbgtFO]

I prefer to use the movies as the basis and then change the main story to make it a coherent storyline, rather than changing the movies. Basically like Draconic did above.

My rough outline would be like this(I am far from finished):

DBZ M1- Dead Zone

• Takes place in the summer of Age 761, roughly 6 months before Raditz arrives.

Saiyan Arc

Spoiler:

• Goku managed to convince Chi Chi, that Gohan should train after the Garlic Jr. incident and Goku also meets Raditz at home rather than Kame-House.
• Due to the training, Goku arrives at Kaio's sooner. Krillin having trained a bit after the Garlic Jr. incident added to his Kami training makes him more confident against the Saibaimen and he along with the others each beat a Saibaiman. Nappa beats them all down without killing them and Goku arrives just in time to prevent Piccolo from dying after sacrificing himself to save Gohan(referenced in M2).
• Goku now does have a power level over 9,000 and Nappa is quickly dispatched. Goku can now match Vegeta with Kaio-ken x2 and even though Vegeta transforms into Ozaru, Goku and co. win, Goku doesn't get crushed.

DBZ M2 - The Strongest Man in the World

Spoiler:

• Takes place 10 days after the Nappa and Vegeta fight. Gohan and Oolong are searching for the Dragon Balls, so they can revive the East City inhabitants Nappa blew up. Kami reactivated the balls as a large group of people can't be revived more than a year after getting killed.
• After the movie Kami once again reactivates the Dragon Balls early as the Wish was used by Dr. Kochin and Gohan and Oolong get their wish granted. The Eldest on Namek dies on 24th December Age 762, while on Earth Kami's Christmas present to Earth is once again getting the Dragon Balls ready for use. However this time Kami just put them in the Room of Spirit and Time to make them restore their glow.

DBZ M3 - Tree of Might

Spoiler:

• Takes place in summer Age 763.
• All damage is undone by the Tree of Might itself(?).
• 3 months later Gohan wants to hang out with Piccolo.

DBZ M4 - Lord Slug

Spoiler:

• Takes place in early October.

Garlic Jr. Arc

Spoiler:

• The official date for the Garlic Jr. Arc is October AGE 763. When I started making this timeline I had forgot about this and fretted over how I was going to justify them going to Namek, but lo and behold along came the Garlic Jr. Arc at exactly the point, where the Freeza Arc would have to take place in this alternate timeline. So let's just imagine, that in this different Garlic Jr. Arc, Garlic Jr. Arc manages to kill Piccolo and/or Kami along with lots of people and so the Z-Fighters have to go to Namek after defeating him.
• In all this time Freeza has been keeping Vegeta on a short leash and has arbitrarly postponed his trip to Namek, because... he had to have a meeting with his father and brother maybe? And it was a very long trip? Let's go with that.

Freeza Arc

Spoiler:

• Obviously things happen differently now with Goku, Gohan and Krillin powerwise being so far ahead of what they were upon arrival on Namek(okay maybe not Krillin).
  Perhaps Ginyu Force won't be encountered on Namek either? In any case the major plot point here is that Goku does not go Super Saiyan against Freeza. Somehow he ends up more than a match for the tyrant with KKx20 and kills him.

DBZ M5 - Revenge of Cooler
DBZ M6 - Return of Cooler
Android Arc
DBZ M7 - Super Android #13
Cell Arc
DBZ M8 - Broly, The Legendary Super Saiyan
Cell Games
DBZ M9 - Bojack unbound
Great Saiyaman stuff
DBZ M10 - Broly 2nd coming
25th Tenkaichi Budokai/Babidi's Spaceship

Spoiler:

• Gohan much stronger than in the series easily beats Dabra, but Babidi still manages to take over Vegeta, who ends up dead like in the series.
• Eventually Mr Satan befriends Buu

DBZ M11 - Bio-Broly
DBZ M12 - Fusion Reborn

Spoiler:

• Eventually Super Buu comes into existence as some evil guys manage to piss him off enough and so we have the conflict like in the series, but Goku is basically anime Goku at this point and they may not even to merge into Vegetto this time around.

Fusion Arc
Kid Buu Arc
DBZ M13 - Wrath of the Dragon

[Hellspawn28]

Movie 8 has a issue set during the Cell Games period.

1 - Goku and Gohan are seen in their base forms when they where FPSSj's during the 7 day break
2 - The whole planet was in panic because of Cell and that it would be impossible for Chi Chi to get a school interview for Gohan
3 - There is no references to Cell at all since Cell was the thing on everyone's minds during the 7 day break. Not to mention I find it odd that they would be relaxing when they would be training for 7 days.