Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

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Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by precita » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:42 pm

As we know, Piccolo sees Gohan almost as his son and has sacrificed himself for him many times, including again recently in Super. While Piccolo never had a huge bond with Goten like he did with Gohan, he still trained both Goten and Trunks to become Gotenks in the Buu saga, so its not like he never had anything to do with Goten at all.

Its interesting in a way that there is very little connection between Piccolo and Goten beyond that. He's Gohan's younger brother, but Piccolo obviously doesn't feel as strongly for him. What do you think? Would Piccolo do for Goten what he does for Gohan?

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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by Vijay » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:50 pm

Hell NO!

Not even Chi-chi would sacrifice for Goten I guess.

The guy's such a failure as we saw at EoZ.

At least Gohan had (his) studies (which fulfilled his Mom's goal) & somewhat "been there, done that" title as Strongest Unfused Character (as Goku wanted).

Goten was utter crap.

Slacked in training & pissed in his pants for going up against Good Buu at (the) 28th TB.

The guy was good only at catching girls as we saw in GT.

On topic: Piccolo NEVER developed affection/love for Goten with the degree he had for Gohan.

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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:32 pm

Gohan is Piccolo's first love.

To this day, he frowns with disgust at him for choosing Videl (see: Super - episode 1).
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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by MajinMan » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:34 pm

Stupid jokes aside, no, he won't. They don't really have much of a relationship to begin with. If anyones going to sacrifice himself, it's probably going to be Gohan. Maybe Goku too.
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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:39 pm

Yeah...I'm sure Piccolo would be visibly upset if something bad happened to Goten, and he might even rush forward to try to push him out of the way or something like that, but taking a blast that would likely kill him to save Goten? The only way I could see that happening is if we were put in a situation where it was down to Goten to save the day or something, so they thus needed him alive. It would never be out of emotion in the same way he does so for Gohan.

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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by Michsi » Wed Dec 09, 2015 2:43 am

I guess I'm in the minority here with thinking that , yes, he would. Then again, I also think that the majority of the older warriors would do whatever it takes to protect the younger ones. I can even picture current Vegeta doing it. And another reason, Piccolo might not care for Goten as much as he does for Gohan, but Goten being Gohan's younger brother probably places him above, for example, Trunks on his list of people he would do everything for. At this point I think he counts as an extension of the Son family, he might even do it for Chichi.

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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by TheZFighter » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:34 am

I think he would, just because of his relationship with Gohan and Goku, and the fact that he is a decent guy now who does the right thing.
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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by Lunatic Fringe » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:46 am

MajinMan wrote:Stupid jokes aside, no, he won't. They don't really have much of a relationship to begin with. If anyones going to sacrifice himself, it's probably going to be Gohan. Maybe Goku too.
He already "sacrificed" himself for Goku on Namek when Freeza tried to kill him and knocked Goku out of the way. I don't see why he wouldn't do the same for Goten, especially knowing how much Goten being alive and well would mean to Gohan.

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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by NitroEX » Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:39 am

Goten probably wouldn't even be that grateful or get mad over it. I can just imagine Piccolo dropping dead while Goten's all like "Phew, thanks Piccolo!" as he flees to safety. The whole thing would be quite funny actually.

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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by 90sDBZ » Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:09 am

I think he would. Remember he was going to step in and fight Super Buu himself after Goten and Trunks defused, and there was that scene where he held Goten back from attacking Fat Buu before letting him go at his demand.

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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by irreality » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:11 am

precita wrote:As we know, Piccolo sees Gohan almost as his son and has sacrificed himself for him many times, including again recently in Super. While Piccolo never had a huge bond with Goten like he did with Gohan, he still trained both Goten and Trunks to become Gotenks in the Buu saga, so its not like he never had anything to do with Goten at all.

Its interesting in a way that there is very little connection between Piccolo and Goten beyond that. He's Gohan's younger brother, but Piccolo obviously doesn't feel as strongly for him. What do you think? Would Piccolo do for Goten what he does for Gohan?
Narratively, Trunks should sacrifice himself for Goten. Piccolo is not close to him.

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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by Cetra » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:14 am

He decided to die with Goten and Trunks.

Yes, he would.
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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by successoroffate » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:38 am

Vijay wrote:Hell NO!

Not even Chi-chi would sacrifice for Goten I guess.

The guy's such a failure as we saw at EoZ.

At least Gohan had (his) studies (which fulfilled his Mom's goal) & somewhat "been there, done that" title as Strongest Unfused Character (as Goku wanted).

Goten was utter crap.

Slacked in training & pissed in his pants for going up against Good Buu at (the) 28th TB.

The guy was good only at catching girls as we saw in GT.

On topic: Piccolo NEVER developed affection/love for Goten with the degree he had for Gohan.
None of those are true. The only reason I think Piccolo would not sacrifice himself for Goten, is because Piccolo only has a Strong relationship (Father-Son) with Gohan. So, that makes obvious its fatherly instinct to sacrifice himself for his "son."
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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by omaro34 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:50 am

Honestly, one of the strongest bonds between two people in the series is Piccolo and Gohan. In so many of the movies, Piccolo does a batman-like entrance to the battlefield by blasting away an enemy attack that is about to kill Gohan time and time again.

Now, to answer the question, like many on this board, I don't think so.

There isn't much interaction between Goten and Piccolo to say that they have a strong relationship. However, I do know for a fact that their relationship is based on respect, not so much friendship. Goten views Piccolo as a strict martial arts teacher, and he probably gets an idea as to who Piccolo is from Gohan.
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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by Puto » Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:51 pm

Lunatic Fringe wrote:
MajinMan wrote:Stupid jokes aside, no, he won't. They don't really have much of a relationship to begin with. If anyones going to sacrifice himself, it's probably going to be Gohan. Maybe Goku too.
He already "sacrificed" himself for Goku on Namek when Freeza tried to kill him and knocked Goku out of the way. I don't see why he wouldn't do the same for Goten, especially knowing how much Goten being alive and well would mean to Gohan.
That was a rare instance of the anime changing something from the manga. In the manga, Piccolo was the target the whole time, he never pushed Goku out of the way.
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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:29 pm

Yep. He pretty much threw himself into the firing line in the Majin Boo arc to give Goten and Trunks enough time in the ROSAT.

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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by NitroEX » Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:26 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Yep. He pretty much threw himself into the firing line in the Majin Boo arc to give Goten and Trunks enough time in the ROSAT.
That doesn't necessarily mean he cared about them though. Gotenks was supposed to be Earth's last hope, Piccolo was just doing what needed to be done to save the planet.

The fact that Piccolo chose to destroy the door to the time chamber shows you where his priorities lie. He could have tried to distract Buu himself or come up with a plan so that Gotenks could escape but his first priority was keeping Earth safe.

He did offer to die alongside the boys after their fusion wore off but that was just the honourable thing to do at the time. From his perspective they were all going to die anyway so it might as well be together.

The Saiyan arc was different because there was no logical reason for him to sacrifice himself, it was purely emotionally driven. At the time Gohan was useless in the fight with the Saiyans and it would have made more sense for Piccolo to stay alive rather than Gohan. Despite it being illogical he chose to die for Gohan because he obviously cared about him, I can't see him doing the same for Goten, at least not without a damn good reason.

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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by nickzambuto » Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:40 pm

Michsi wrote:I guess I'm in the minority here with thinking that , yes, he would. Then again, I also think that the majority of the older warriors would do whatever it takes to protect the younger ones. I can even picture current Vegeta doing it. And another reason, Piccolo might not care for Goten as much as he does for Gohan, but Goten being Gohan's younger brother probably places him above, for example, Trunks on his list of people he would do everything for. At this point I think he counts as an extension of the Son family, he might even do it for Chichi.
Now that's a funny scene to imagine.

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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by precita » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:32 pm

I honestly think its a shame Piccolo didn't continue to try and train Trunks and Goten after the Buu arc ended. It would have been interesting to see Trunks and Goten continue to learn from Piccolo like Gohan did.

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Re: Would Piccolo sacrifice himself for Goten?

Post by Lunatic Fringe » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:38 pm

Puto wrote:
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MajinMan wrote:Stupid jokes aside, no, he won't. They don't really have much of a relationship to begin with. If anyones going to sacrifice himself, it's probably going to be Gohan. Maybe Goku too.
He already "sacrificed" himself for Goku on Namek when Freeza tried to kill him and knocked Goku out of the way. I don't see why he wouldn't do the same for Goten, especially knowing how much Goten being alive and well would mean to Gohan.
That was a rare instance of the anime changing something from the manga. In the manga, Piccolo was the target the whole time, he never pushed Goku out of the way.
I stand corrected then.

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