Can Piccolo be classed as a God?

[JeevanBuu]

With Goku and Vegeta becoming God's but not actual God's, does that mean Piccolo is a"God" because he fused with Kami who is called a God in the manga, so by fusing with Piccolo, Piccolo is a God. Or is it Kami was just called a God because he was guardian of the earth, which also means is Dende technically a God?

What do you guys think?

[VegettoEX]

If we want to extend it to Super, Piccolo didn't seem to be able to sense or confirm whether or not Goku was truly a god when he reached Super Saiyan God. Dende had to nod to confirm it for him.

On the other hand, he seemed to sense something was up / different with Kaioshin back at the 25th tournament, and had an idea about which god he might be.

In each case above, you can twist it so Piccolo seemed to know SOMETHING, but just wasn't 100% sure. You could then say he's maybe sorta kinda got the remnants of a god within him.

Which he does, except it's explained in both Nail and God's case that Piccolo will remain the base.

In conclusion, I have no idea.

("Kami" isn't just called "a God" -- that's literally what "Kami" means. It's just the word for "god". He's the God of Earth. He doesn't actually have a name that we know of, other than being the child of Katatz. "Kami" isn't a name. It's his title: God.)

[Darkprince410]

Given that we see that Dende is the only member of Earth's group capable of sensing Beerus's ki (prior to Goku undergoing the god ritual) we can determine that Dende is more than simply God by title only. In the original Japanese version of the manga/anime, the position was always referred to as God, with "Guardian of the Earth" being a dub renaming of the position to remove the religious connotation.

That being said, given that Piccolo couldn't sense Beerus's ki and that it's indicated by both Piccolo and Kami that their "merging" wouldn't be an actual fusion (simply that Kami would serve to give Piccolo a power-up, it doesn't seem that godly aspect of Kami transferred over when Piccolo and he reunited. Granted, he does seemingly sense something in regards to Kaioushin, though it comes off as more of an odd presence to him rather than actual ki of any sort.

[JeevanBuu]

If we want to extend it to Super, Piccolo didn't seem to be able to sense or confirm whether or not Goku was truly a god when he reached Super Saiyan God. Dende had to nod to confirm it for him.

On the other hand, he seemed to sense something was up / different with Kaioshin back at the 25th tournament, and had an idea about which god he might be.

In each case above, you can twist it so Piccolo seemed to know SOMETHING, but just wasn't 100% sure. You could then say he's maybe sorta kinda got the remnants of a god within him.

Which he does, except it's explained in both Nail and God's case that Piccolo will remain the base.

In conclusion, I have no idea.

("Kami" isn't just called "a God" -- that's literally what "Kami" means. It's just the word for "god". He's the God of Earth. He doesn't actually have a name that we know of, other than being the child of Katatz. "Kami" isn't a name. It's his title: God.)

Maybe they might explore his power more but that might be a big maybe. Also does that mean Dende should be called Kami because never heard anyone call him that.

[dbgtFO]

Also does that mean Dende should be called Kami because never heard anyone call him that.

That's mostly because they personally know Dende, but Piccolo does remind Krillin, that Dende is Kami/God, when Krillin is praying for an easy opponent at the 25th Tournament.

[apex_pretador]

Nope. He can't be called a god in any way or other. Only a part of him "used to be" a god.

[supacomboy]

I think it would be reasonable to state that Piccolo is a demigod - Although no longer a god in his own right he still has divine blood running through his veins, figuratively speaking, which affords him some special abilities a non-divine character would not typically posses. For example; and please correct me as I may very well be wrong due to poor memory, but isn't it shown that Piccolo is able to use "god-vision" to watch over the land and see what is going on from Kami's Palace within the Heavenly Realm? I have difficulty remembering if it is true but if so I think one of the few non-divine beings to also do that was Buu, and I would suggest Buu is exeptional as a diety of sorts - of either magical and/or demonic origin, with aspects of a divine figure within the Dragon World.

[Sandubadear]

Not really. God is really just a title. Piccolo is not a god anymore because Dende is Earth's god now.

Also does that mean Dende should be called Kami because never heard anyone call him that.

I think in GT Pan calls Dende "Kami-sama" when they arrive from space with the Ultimate Dragon Balls.

[dbgtFO]

[...]be wrong due to poor memory, but isn't it shown that Piccolo is able to use "god-vision" to watch over the land and see what is going on from Kami's Palace within the Heavenly Realm?

Yes that is true. Prior to the merger, he had been inquiring Kami about what was happening, that made him so shocked(Cell killing earthlings) and after that he easily keeps up with what's happening on Earth as seen, when Vegeta and Trunks fought Cell and in the Buu Arc, where he sees Mr. Satan befriend Buu.

[batistabus]

On the other hand, he seemed to sense something was up / different with Kaioshin back at the 25th tournament, and had an idea about which god he might be.

Ever since the God of Destruction (Beerus) and the Gods of Creation (Kaioshin) were described as being two sides to the same coin, I've always thought that scene fit in very nicely. That being said...is it possible that Toriyama thought of the concept of divine ki at this point in the story? Obviously the entire concept for BoG came much later, but I wonder. Did he conceive of the scene in this way at the time, or if he was just simply hyping up the importance of his new character? Something that Toriyama seems to do from time to time is come up with backstories/details about his characters that never get explained, so despite his write-as-I-go style, I could see some thought being put into this.

[FoolsGil]

Didn't Piccolo say something to Kami along the lines of "Earth doesn't need a god" before they fused? Sounds cut and dry, Kami lost godhood, and so Piccolo isn't a god.