Comparing Sumitomo's soundtracks

[GodVegetto91]

So he's got 4 soundtracks now. BoG, RoF, Buu Arc Kai and Super.
And they all differ greatly.(very surprising to me) While he's been proven to me to be an awesome composer. The recent musical scores just don't hit me anymore..
Now this is only my opinion.. BUT His best score ever was by far Battle Of Gods!! Litterally every theme that was used in the movie completely blew my mind! (They were all Godly!) But then came Resurrection F.. And everything imidiately went downhill.. (Ofcourse how can you top a god?) well it was far worse. EXCEPT for one score. It was the score that happened

Spoiler:

When earth blew up

that was the only one! However the Buu arc of Kai really was one of his better scores.. (But again, how can you beat Battle Of Gods' score?) and then we've got Super.. It was definitely better then RoF IMO. (Definitely at least average) but i liked the buu arc of kai's still better. Which makes me wonder. How could Battle of Gods have the fortune to have only all perfect soundtracks in one!? there wasn't even ONE soundtrack in the movie that i found "Average".. Litterally EVERY theme was Perfect!
So here's my order.

1. Battle of Gods.
2. Buu Arc Kai
3. Super
4. RoF (except for that one theme!) that one was godly!

So here's just 2 example of BoG.
http://youtu.be/uP_b3xDsVRw
http://youtu.be/9n68v5RdgGw

How can anyone NOT like these?

No matter "if it doesn't fit dragon ball.." Just listen to your heart.. What do you feel? When you hear these songs?

[Black_Liger]

Shhhh, God forbid you speak good of Sumitomo here. lol.

Seriously, people tend to really bring him down at every turn, even when he actually does well, Epic choir track on super?. Fuck that, it's generic they say.

Anyhow, I do have my gripes with him, he should REALLY FUCKING LAY DOWN THE MOTHERFUCKING SYNTH. He's useless when using a fucking synth, and MANY, MANY pieces of the score are actually synth.

I think the fucking guy has talent, ever heard his score for Unfair The movie? DUDE. It's amazing. I can't believe this is the same Sumitomo that scores db now. Beautiful atmosphere, Beautiful orchestra soundtracks. Of course, it also falls victim to his sampled percussion cd that he loves so much. In fact there's a percussion he seems to have blatantly carried over to his Shenlong Theme. It's not ilegall since it's a official sample CD that anyone can use. but if he dropped it... it would be for the best. Even so, you can forgive it because of the quality of his compositions here.


Examples: (Don't have to download it, just click on listen).

Plaintative Justice: This one is just beautiful. It reminds me of his "As Long as He Lives" track in BoG, albeit more developed, it features of the motifs of the unfair soundtrack. And it's beautiful.

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/2ymphdd ... %BC%89.mp3

All in All (Wish): Ok this track is just heartwarming, it also has nice little bit of brass, something that his score for DB sorely lacks. Most of the new tracks of RoF arc have only been strings, and everything else except brass. The choir tracks have had NO brass. WTF Sumitomo??? DB IS ALL ABOUT BRASS!.

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/1y4logj ... ish%29.mp3

The chase: Same motif as Plantative justice, albiet a lil bit more "Batman Beyond" Type of arrangement.

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/gsddop5 ... %BC%89.mp3

Faith and Doubt: You fucking kidding me right?. THAT PERCUSSION, THOSE STRINGS, man it's one of my favorite tracks, when the Cello kicks in... I just die and get reborn immediately for the soaring strings!. This track is seriously sexy, misterious and exciting at the same time.

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/gq6fqd4 ... +Doubt.mp3

Japanese gibberish name I won't translate: The percussion in this is insane, it even has organ and some serious string work that puts to shame anything Yamamoto ever did.

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/ock9i5c ... %82%99.mp3

Imagine those kinds of tracks on DB Super??. I don't know, sometimes I think Toei gives him stupid orders for the soundtrack and doesn't let him do what he wants, which would be for the greater good. Toei has been doing stupid things related to DB, so I too think it's plausible they screwed up the music.


Granted, the guy is not perfect, I hate his synths, his fucking sampled percussion (Funny he uses them!, because his own percussion is far better!). Get rid of those, his sampled sound atmospheric effects give him some brass, there you go, perfect DB composer.

This also raises a question? Why he uses that trash? why does Toei let him use it!?. Those guys simply don't care, I bet he freaking puts them on because he barely has time to make music... (I have started a deep hatred of Toei in my heart)


OH BTW, His Jazz is also fucking amazing.

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/xamgbjj ... Finder.mp3

[Michie]

When looking at the staff of some jdrama I noticed Sumitomo's name as the man behind the music. His work on jdrama is actually really, really good. The music he created for the Jdrama Date is fantastic. Give the man time and enough money and he can do so much better.

[Naruto6583]

When looking at the staff of some jdrama I noticed Sumitomo's name as the man behind the music. His work on jdrama is actually really, really good. The music he created for the Jdrama Date is fantastic. Give the man time and enough money and he can do so much better.

Have you heard his music for Guilty Akuma, Asura, and Unfair?

[Black_Liger]

The samples of Super´s soundtrack are available on amazon japan.


http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B019I09EGI

Pretty much all the track in the series are there, even some that had not been used. (Except for the last section of the super saiyan god ritual, unless it´s blended into the end of the grandiose part of the composition).

There´s also like 2 or 3 tracks that we haven´t heard before. like disc 2 track 3 one. Which is orchestrated with brass and all, and shows up how amazing the score would be if Sumitomo only used orchestra. But all in all, It´s a great soundtrack, I can hear some good percussion and details behind the tracks now that there´s no sound effects or voices to muffle them. Track 6 of the second disc is freaking powerful even in my computer´s built-in speakers that lack base. So that´s awesome!.

My only gripe is that Sumitomo keeps using his sample cds. shouldn´t be too much of a problem now, since I think he used them up all by now, and he only seemed to use them one time on buu kai.

The soundtrack should come out tomorrow in japan. Let´s hope it pops in youtube soon so we can further check the music.

[Lord Beerus]

The samples of Super´s soundtrack are available on amazon japan.

Hmm. Quite a mixed bag of soundtrack. Quite a few of tracks sound like something that you would hear in Dragon Ball videogame as supposed to what you would hear in a Dragon Ball anime. Track 19 sounds like something I would hear in a promotional video for the 2014 World Cup in Brazil and track 24 and 27 sound like something straight out of Crash Bandicoot. That being said, some of the tracks sound really damn good. Tracks 7, 10, 11, 16, 12, 25, 28, 29, 30 and 31 sound really great, and honestly, I think Toei should have just used those tracks for the show because sound the best. I'll be keeping a close eye on YouTube for when the Super OST is inevitably leaked there.

[Kuririn Fan]

Shhhh, God forbid you speak good of Sumitomo here. lol.

Seriously, people tend to really bring him down at every turn, even when he actually does well, Epic choir track on super?. Fuck that, it's generic they say.

I know right?! He gets such an undeserved hate, i mean his work like that one when Goku arrives in ep 8 puts Kikuchi to shame.

[ekrolo2]

Shhhh, God forbid you speak good of Sumitomo here. lol.

Seriously, people tend to really bring him down at every turn, even when he actually does well, Epic choir track on super?. Fuck that, it's generic they say.

I know right?! He gets such an undeserved hate, i mean his work like that one when Goku arrives in ep 8 puts Kikuchi to shame.

Agreed. I went back to listen to his Final Chapters of Kai OST and I found myself really liking a lot of the tracks there, so much so I'm pissed off Toei still hasn't released all of them and probably won't for a while.

[Kuririn Fan]

I was being sarcastic :p
He was ok-ish in the movies and Kai, but in Super not so much.

[Black_Liger]

The samples of Super´s soundtrack are available on amazon japan.

Hmm. Quite a mixed bag of soundtrack. Quite a few of tracks sound like something that you would hear in Dragon Ball videogame as supposed to what you would hear in a Dragon Ball anime. Track 19 sounds like something I would hear in a promotional video for the 2014 World Cup in Brazil and track 24 and 27 sound like something straight out of Crash Bandicoot. That being said, some of the tracks sound really damn good. Tracks 7, 10, 11, 16, 12, 25, 28, 29, 30 and 31 sound really great, and honestly, I think Toei should have just used those tracks for the show because sound the best. I'll be keeping a close eye on YouTube for when the Super OST is inevitably leaked there.

I pretty much agree with everything you say, if Takaki was hired for DB Anime while Sumitomo was hired for DB games we would hit jackpot here. Also yes, I´ve noticed Toei has a tendency to use the worst tracks much more than the better tracks.... The pilaf tracks (cringy tracks for the cringy folks) were used for freaking Goten and Trunks in the first episode (And later for Jaco and Bulma)!. No wonder it felt so bad! They were not composed for them at all. Step up your game sound director!. That said, I would ban Sumitomo from using synth, his orchestra tracks are pretty nice!. He can nail the dragon ball brass sound pretty when he wants.

[kei17]

I agree that the BoG score is the best among his contributions so far. It is more even than other scores and its dark tracks don't go too far like some overly dark/hardcore sounding cues from RoF. It feels fairly DB-esque relatively. Musically, the Kai score is the worst for its unbelievably cheap synth sounds, but the DB Super score is least entertaining so far because its so many cues resemble the past pieces from the two movies which was caused by the recycled stories in the show. What's the point of creating another stuffed animal theme that sounds almost the same as the one from RoF? Why not just recycle the movie scores and compose something refreshing instead?

[Black_Liger]

Why not just recycle the movie scores and compose something refreshing instead?

This a million times over, I still can´t get over how they just layered some other notes over the hell toy parade theme and called it new LOL. But I guess that means they can use the movie pieces for next arcs, I bet they are gonna use the Frieza themes from Rof in Frost´s scene. (Or maybe Hit's)

[Kuririn Fan]

Why not just recycle the movie scores and compose something refreshing instead?

This a million times over, I still can´t get over how they just layered some other notes over the hell toy parade theme and called it new LOL. But I guess that means they can use the movie pieces for next arcs, I bet they are gonna use the Frieza themes from Rof in Frost´s scene. (Or maybe Hit's)

Why do you use incorrect spelling "Fr i eza" ?

[Dbzfan94]

Why not just recycle the movie scores and compose something refreshing instead?

This a million times over, I still can´t get over how they just layered some other notes over the hell toy parade theme and called it new LOL. But I guess that means they can use the movie pieces for next arcs, I bet they are gonna use the Frieza themes from Rof in Frost´s scene. (Or maybe Hit's)

Why do you use incorrect spelling "Fr i eza" ?

Why do you care? Let him use the spelling he prefers.

[Kuririn Fan]

I mean it's incorrect and this forum has filters and he goes through the trouble of bypassing it just to write it incorrectly. It's not that i care, i just find it interesting.

[Dbzfan94]

I mean it's incorrect and this forum has filters and he goes through the trouble of bypassing it just to write it incorrectly. It's not that i care, i just find it interesting.

Maybe he doesn't like the filters and wants to use the Frieza spelling. I for one like the original 'Freeza' better but that's just me. Others can like what they please.

[Kuririn Fan]

I mean it's incorrect and this forum has filters and he goes through the trouble of bypassing it just to write it incorrectly. It's not that i care, i just find it interesting.

Maybe he doesn't like the filters and wants to use the Frieza spelling. I for one like the original 'Freeza' better but that's just me. Others can like what they please.

Sure thing, bro, no problem.

[Black_Liger]

I mean it's incorrect and this forum has filters and he goes through the trouble of bypassing it just to write it incorrectly. It's not that i care, i just find it interesting.

Maybe he doesn't like the filters and wants to use the Frieza spelling. I for one like the original 'Freeza' better but that's just me. Others can like what they please.

Sure thing, bro, no problem.

Lol i just sometimes write the first name that comes into my mind, i sometimes use Bulla and others I use Bra. I do indeed prefer Freeza spelling over Frieza

[Kuririn Fan]

This is so off topic, but i guess it's interesting - filters are gone: Frieza, Tien, Hercule...

[Naruto6583]

Lol i just sometimes write the first name that comes into my mind, i sometimes use Bulla and others I use Bra. I do indeed prefer Freeza spelling over Frieza[/quote]
I'm trying to remember but wasn't the pilaf gang sneaking track in the extended edition for bog