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Kid Goku

Post by SuperSaiyanJay » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:21 am

What the hell is wrong with Kid Goku?? I mean this kid is like a angel or something. If anybody has ever watched dragonball you'll see that goku is too care-free. I mean he doesn't even desire anything. I know he grew up in the mountains. But he had a grandpa. He would have learned about Toys or other things kids play with. And people dont seem to wonder how Goku is not corruptible? Krillin likes girls, I think Goku doesnt even have a preference. Think of all the good kids in dragonball and then think of kid goku. The lil dude is like a rock with a orange uniform. He might be retarded forreal. I mean he literally doesnt care about anything in dragonball only getting stronger.

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Post by MajinMan » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:57 am

First things first, Goku is not a human, so human characteristics don't exactly apply to him. Second, he hit his head on a rock. He might've gotten brain damage from that impact for all we know. He had a Grandpa, yes, but for all we know Goku could've killed him when he was like 6. The real answer here would be that Toriyama wanted to write Goku as a naive, care-free boy.
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Post by SuperSaiyanJay » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:21 pm

What you have written is true. It just amazes me how kid goku acts and operates. This lil nigga is like a pet dog or something. He doesnt do anything besides eat and get stronger. No female desire no desire for friendship, not even a desire to use the dragonballs to try and wish his grandfather back. (Even though it wouldnt have worked.)

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:31 pm

SuperSaiyanJay wrote:What you have written is true. It just amazes me how kid goku acts and operates. This lil nigga is like a pet dog or something. He doesnt do anything besides eat and get stronger. No female desire no desire for friendship, not even a desire to use the dragonballs to try and wish his grandfather back. (Even though it wouldnt have worked.)
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Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:45 pm

SuperSaiyanJay wrote:This lil nigga is like a pet dog or something.
I think you could have phrased that much better.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:36 pm

MajinMan wrote:First things first, Goku is not a human, so human characteristics don't exactly apply to him. Second, he hit his head on a rock. He might've gotten brain damage from that impact for all we know.
While this is ultimately true, neither of these plot points had been invented until well after the end of Goku's childhood, so they certainly couldn't have been in Toriyama's mind while he was writing him. While you can retroactively fit those idea into Goku's characterization without much trouble, strictly speaking, they can't truly be building blocks for what made Kid Goku Kid Goku.
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Re: Kid Goku

Post by SuperSaiyanJay » Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:21 am

Gaffer Tape wrote:
MajinMan wrote:First things first, Goku is not a human, so human characteristics don't exactly apply to him. Second, he hit his head on a rock. He might've gotten brain damage from that impact for all we know.
While this is ultimately true, neither of these plot points had been invented until well after the end of Goku's childhood, so they certainly couldn't have been in Toriyama's mind while he was writing him. While you can retroactively fit those idea into Goku's characterization without much trouble, strictly speaking, they can't truly be building blocks for what made Kid Goku Kid Goku.
Exactly, so with the above being quoted, watching kid goku before the dragonballz episode when raditz told goku about his race. You can see that kid goku is so care free he doesnt even want to use the dragonballs while literally ever other character thinks about what they might wish for. With roshi nd krillin being lustful and bulma and yamcha being lustful and tien being vengeful and chaotzu going along with anything tien does. How the hell is goku so dam sinless.

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Re: Kid Goku

Post by Vijay » Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:33 am

Kid Goku was as bland as tissue paper.

Dat was reason why Toriyama's editor told him to make his character likable.

To which AT "populated" him with Roshi, Kuririn & Tenkaichi Budoukai in general.

But his character significantly improved with Red Ribbon Army Arc.

Considerin how Goku's character was inspired frm Sun Wukong (initially an unlikable, obnoxious lead) some traces of it can be seen.

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Post by successoroffate » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:37 am

"This lil nigga"

Come on man, let's be adults here please.
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Re: Kid Goku

Post by MajinMan » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:43 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:While this is ultimately true, neither of these plot points had been invented until well after the end of Goku's childhood, so they certainly couldn't have been in Toriyama's mind while he was writing him. While you can retroactively fit those idea into Goku's characterization without much trouble, strictly speaking, they can't truly be building blocks for what made Kid Goku Kid Goku.
Well said. Sometimes there is no real answer. Maybe an author thought it would be best to give a character a certain personality because of the type of story he was trying to write. Maybe he planned it out in such a way to explain the character's behavior later down the line. Knowing the type of person Toriyama is and the type of manga he wrote back then, it's probably the former. He most likely made Goku like that because he thought it would be convenient for the story, right then and there, without thinking too far ahead. Or I could be wrong and he might've had another reason for doing it the way he did. Who knows.
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Re: Kid Goku

Post by UltimateHammerBro » Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:48 pm

He may seem bland, but I think there's a reason for that: the story goes around him, and we're supposed to see the richness in the story itself, not in him.

It's hard to put into words, but I view it as something similar to the character of Tintin: the adventures he lives are more important than him as a character, who's less developed.
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