SSj3 Vegito vs. Omega Shenron (In Depth)

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SSj3 Vegito vs. Omega Shenron (In Depth)

Post by ToxicFlame707 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:57 am

One of the most debated topics that DBZ fans have been discussing for years is who would between SSj3 Vegito and Omega Shenron. Well I did the math, along with some power-scaling, I found out who would win. Before we find out how well SSj3 Vegito would stack up against Omega Shenron, we first need to get a good idea on what his power level would be.

Multiply these by whichever number you like, I'd multiply them by 1 million.

You may already know the Super Saiyan multipliers but I'll state them anyway.
SSj1 = 50x Base
SSj2 = 100x Base
SSj3 = 400x Base
SSj4 = 10x Highest SSj Form attained

Base Goku: 10
SSj Goku: 500
SSj2 Goku: 1000
SSj3 Goku: 4000
Base Goten/Trunks: 4 (Power lvls must be adjusted even to do dance)
SSj Goten/Trunks: 200
Fusion Multiplier: (A + B)10, I will explain
Base Gotenks: (4+4)10 = 8 x 10 = 80 (at least)
SSj Gotenks: 4000 (at least), it was stated SSj Gotenks would be enough to defeat Fat Buu
SSj2 Gotenks: 8000
SSj3 Gotenks: 32,000
Piccolo (Buu Saga): 400 (He was already close to ASSj lvl in the Cell Games, he didn't last as long against the Cell Jrs as Vegeta/Trunks because he only went in the RoSaT once, even Trunks was impressed by Post-RoSaT Piccolo's power)
Super Buu: 31,000 (not much weaker than SSj3 Gotenks)
Ultimate Gohan: 40,000
Buutenks: 63,400
Buucollo: 31,800
Buuhan: 71,800
Now returning to Goku/Vegeta
SSj Goku: 500
SSj Vegeta: 500 (for simplicity)
SSj Vegito = 80,000 (probably much higher, but at least)
500 + 500 =/= 80,000.
(500 + 500)A = 1000 x A = 80,000
A = 80 = Potora Fusion rivalry multiplier
SSj2 Vegito = 160,000
SSj3 Vegito = 640,000

Then again, it could just the perks of Potora Fusion and the rivalry boost.

How would SSj3 Vegito fare against Omega Shenron?

Dragon Ball GT
Base Goku = SSj3 Z Goku = 4000 (a 400x increase is not unrealistic by DBZ standards, Base Goku went from a power lvl of 8k on Earth to 3 million on Namek in one month)
SSj Goku = 20,000
SSj2 Goku = 40,000
SSj3 Goku = 160,000
SSj4 Goku = 1,600,000
Base Vegeta = He doesn't have too many good feats, but in his base form he was on par with Android 17, which would make his power level at least 500.
SSj Vegeta = 25,000
SSj2 Vegeta = 50,000
SSj4 Vegeta = 500,000
SSj4 Gogeta = Using the same math we used with Gotenks and the Fusion dance multiplier
Dragon Ball GT
Base Goku = 4000
SSj Goku = 200,000
SSj2 Goku = 400,000
SSj3 Goku = 1,600,000
SSj4 Goku = 16,000,000
Base Vegeta = He doesn't have too many good feats, but in his base form he was on par with Android 17, which would make his power level at least 500.
SSj Vegeta = 25,000
SSj2 Vegeta = 50,000
SSj4 Vegeta = 500,000
SSj4 Gogeta = Using the same math we used with Gotenks and the Fusion dance multiplier
SSj4 Gogeta = (A + B)10
SSj4 Gogeta = (16,000,000 + 200,000)10
SSj4 Gogeta = 16,200,000(10)
SSj4 Gogeta = 162,000,000
Omega Shenron = Stronger than SSj4 Goku, Weaker than SSj4 Gogeta

Omega Shenron = (16,000,000 + 162,000,000)/2
Omega Shenron = 89,000,000
So, going back to Vegito

Dragon Ball Z
Base Vegito = 1,600
SSj1 Vegito = 80,000
SSj2 Vegito = 160,000
SSj3 Vegito = 640,000
Sorry but as much I hate to admit it, SSj3 Vegito wouldn't stand a chance!
THEN AGAIN Dragon Ball GT is strictly a product of Toei Animation, and considering we see movie villains make appearances in Dragon Ball GT, we can conclude the DBZ fillers are a part of Dragon Ball GT's story.
DBZ Filler/Anime
Base Vegito = 75,000
SSj Vegito = 3,750,000
SSj2 Vegito = 7,500,000
SSj3 Vegito = 30,000,000
Anime SSj3 Z Vegito still loses


But what about a GT SSj3 Vegito (Using DBZ Manga Logic)?
SSj3 GT Vegito = (A + B)80 x 400
SSj3 GT Vegito = (Base Goku + Base Vegeta)80 x 400
SSj3 GT Vegito = (4000 + 500)80 x 400
SSj3 GT Vegito = (4500)80 x 400
SSj3 GT Vegito = 360,000 x 400
SSj3 GT Vegito = 144,000,000
And if we integrate the DBZ Anime Logic with GT then Vegito would be about 46x stronger! So his power level then would be 6,624,000,000 Million!
If my calculations are correct, SSj3 GT Vegito would be able to decimate Omega Shenron, but SSj3 Z Vegito (Manga/Anime) would lose.

And just for a bonus. What about DBSuper Vegito? Beerus said that he used 10% (about 10, so let's say 9%) of his power to subdue SSj3 Goku and SSj2 Vegeta.
So we can assume SSj3 Goku is 1% of Beerus.
Akira Toriyama himself said, SSG Goku is a 6, Beerus is 10 and Whis is 15.
SSjG Goku equal to 60% Beerus, thus making SSjG 24,000x Base Power, but Goku would have needed to be 40,000x Base to match 100% Beerus.
Saiyan Beyond God = Super Saiyan God
SSjGSSj is stated to still be weaker than 100% Beerus.
(24k + 40k)/2 x Base= SSBlue Multiplier
64k/2 x Base = SSBlue Multiplier
Base x32000 = SSBlue Multiplier

So again, let's say Base Vegito's power lvl is still 1600, his SSBlue form would be 51,200,000. He'd be weaker than Omega Shenron. But what about when you consider the intense training that Goku and Vegeta underwent between BoG and FnF combined with
, Base Vegito's power should be at least 2x stronger which would be 3200, and with the SSBlue multiplier 102,400,000. Stronger than Omega Shenron.
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Re: SSj3 Vegito vs. Omega Shenron (In Depth)

Post by Vijay » Wed Jan 20, 2016 4:55 am

I have nothin against ur power scaling & all

I just flat-out despise Digits when it comes to Power Chains

Like-wise, I freakin hate Omega as villain. He is a useless piece of garbage

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Re: SSj3 Vegito vs. Omega Shenron (In Depth)

Post by Khin » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:17 am

There's a thread for these things.
>>>http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =6&t=14197<<<
and
>>>http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =8&t=17060<<<

To answer the question.If SSj4 Goku =< Super Vegetto.Then Yi Xing Lóng wins.I don't think he's only 8x stronger than a stronger version of SSj4 Goku in the SD Arc.

Omega Shenron vs.
Boo Saga SSj3 Vegetto = SYXL rips Vegetto apart.
BOG SSj3 Vegetto = The same as above.
GT SSj3 Vegetto = Even regular SSj would be enough.
Saiyan Beyond God Vegetto = Vegetto sneezes and SYXL disintegrates.

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Re: SSj3 Vegito vs. Omega Shenron (In Depth)

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:39 am

A lot of your numbers and multipliers are not based on anything official.
Cool stuff that I upload here because Youtube will copyright claim it: https://vimeo.com/user60967147

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Re: SSj3 Vegito vs. Omega Shenron (In Depth)

Post by ToxicFlame707 » Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:32 pm

Vijay wrote:I have nothin against ur power scaling & all

I just flat-out despise Digits when it comes to Power Chains

Like-wise, I freakin hate Omega as villain. He is a useless piece of garbage
How can you hate him? Sure he's a dick but villains are supposed to be. It was an unexpected twist for the Dragon Balls to turn on the Z-Warriors.

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Re: SSj3 Vegito vs. Omega Shenron (In Depth)

Post by VegettoEX » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:12 pm

Vijay wrote:I have nothin against ur power scaling & all

I just flat-out despise Digits when it comes to Power Chains

Like-wise, I freakin hate Omega as villain. He is a useless piece of garbage
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