SSGSS3/SSB 3 is it possible?

[beerus1028]

Ok so I've seen quite a bit of fan art for what fans think a ssgss 3 would look like. But is it possible? The reason Goku rarely uses ssj3 and the reason it is unstable is because of how much energy is used to sustain the form. It requires a huge energy output and burns through your energy faster than any other form. Ok now they unlocked ssgss/ssb from learning how to keep their ki in and not let it leak out. They need to be able to do this to tap into god ki and unlock the form. Now ssgss/ssb is god ki mixed with the regular ssj1 form so shouldn't transforming into a ssgss 3 or ssgss 2 be as simple as transforming into those forms while in the ssgss form? Well since they have to keep their ki from leaking out and ssj3 requires an enormous energy output I do not believe they could use any other ssj transformation for that form considering for all we know they can not be mastered like the ssj1 form can. Maybe Toriyama will find a way around it in db super (I hope he doesn't I personally hope ssgss/ssb is their final form) Anyways any thoughts on how it would be possible or if it wouldn't be possible?

[TheMikado]

Possible? Technically yes it should be. Will we see it? Probably not.

[beerus1028]

I still really don't think it should be possible at all. They would have way to much trouble keeping their ki in to sustain the form and actually make it usable.

[LightBing]

There's an interview with Mr.Toriyama saying it's likely SSJ2 and SSJ3 won't make more appearances. I think we won't see it but it's not set in stone.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... mysteries/

[dbzfan7]

Yep. If you've seen current designs, it's highly likely if a new form comes up, it'll rip off the other previous ones again.

There's an interview with Mr.Toriyama saying it's likely SSJ2 and SSJ3 won't make more appearances. I think we won't see it but it's not set in stone.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/ ... mysteries/

When talking about SSJ God he talks about how blue is a weak colour, then goes on to use it for a more powerful form. Never say never .

“Simply put, it’s because [the red hair] looks so strong,” said Toriyama. “The color yellow has already been used, and blue isn’t really that strong looking, so visually, red is easy to understand.”

[pacz360]

with tori it damn well is.

[Gorou]

I really hope that is not possible

[Xeztin]

It's possible but I don't think we will ever see it as I believe he was trying to eliminate the numbers to keep it from getting ridiculous so he switched to colors like SSJB. If you think about it after Super Saiyan 5, Super Saiyan 6 sounds kind of ridiculous. We may very well get form's that look like SSJ2 and 3 though hair wise but they most likely won't exactly be the forms themselves, just heavily influenced. For example, we may see Goku turn into a Ape with brown SSJ3 hair but it won't be related to SSJ3 at all.

[Lord Beerus]

Toriyama has already stated Goku won't be using SSJ2 or SSJ3 in the future because of their drawbacks, so no.

[Desassina]

For every new Super Saiyan state, there's a new power up, like the graded and numbered transformations. This time they will be colored, ranging from the warm tones to the cool ones. I'm just kidding, but seriously, look at Akira Toriyama's history of transformation design:

SSJ -> Grade II -> Grade III -> Full Power
SSJ -> SSJ2 -> SSJ3 -> Ultimate or Mystic

Each time the characters try to surpass a new level, they resort to the most natural one. Ultimate Gohan doesn't resemble a Super Saiyan in color, but the features were there to remind us that he's a fully powered fighter. There's also a slight resemblance between Kaioken and SSJG, which were exclusive to Goku before he found a new base for (almost) every Saiyan. This is why I believe we'll get new forms beyond SSJB, but unlike SSJ2 and SSJ3. Who knows if Gohan doesn't go SSJW?

[SmugStick]

It's probably possible, in theory I don't see why not. But why would they use it if just training SSJB really well instead of going SSJGSSJ3 can bring a lot of advantages? From what I've read, just using SSJ well can match up to any power if you train it, yeah?

[OkamiTakahashi]

Honestly, I think it's possible, and I don't trust every word of Toriyama's. He said blue was weaker than red, then went to use blue for SSJB, and claims the other forms won't be used in Super, and yet they already have been. Wasn't Goku seen powering up to regular SSJ2 in the U6 tourney? That just shows you that he's only mastered SSJB to the first level and not for SSJ2 or 3, but I do think it could be possible.

But to be honest, I really wish I could redo the whole SSJ God thing. It's a mess. SSJ God has regular hair, but red. That's not a real Super Saiyan form to me. I would just call that Saiyan God and just leave the muscles and hair color be and use the Saiyan Beyond God Aura. Think of it like being Mystic Gohan. Go SSJ 1, use red. That's SSJ God. Ascend to SSJ2. Make that SSJB. And for SSJ3, I would use green. It just seems like it would work. I mean, if Broly's SSJ hair can be greenish in color, why not reuse it? As for SSJ4, I'm not sure given the differences between Super and GT. I suppose the red could be symbolizing use of SSJ God power, albeit on a detectable scale for whatever reason. If it were to be made undetectable like regular SSJ God though I'd probably make it gold like regular SSJ, to show the mastery of the SSJ God powers and SSJ4 form.

Actually back on the topic of Broly- doesn't anyone find it unusual that his Restrained SSJ form has blue hair, and SSJB also uses blue hair? It's a bit unsettling. And depending on the lighting it can actually look either purple-ish or red. Somehow or other I have this feeling there could be an opposite of SSJ God, exclusive to Broly, but that's just me speculating on what others consider non-canon characters.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

either give us these 2 new form or at least give us a reasoning in the show where they say "my god ki doesn't merge with ssj2 for some reason" say something IN UNIVERSE. Because people just watch it and get confused. After BOG people kept saying goku is stronger then beerus and would have won if he knew he was ssj1 and just went ss2 or ssj3 and i'm like....well to be fair...they kind just ignore it and don't tell you anything.....but those forms are gone.....and people want a in universe explination, and well so do I. If you go with power drawbacks, either have them say it themselves or have them train the forms like goku did with ssj1 in the cell games.

[SSJ4_Zankuto]

I think it's possible. I have no doubt the Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 3 will have the same drawback effects as the regular Super Saiyan 3. It would be cool to see too, with the long blue hair.

[Tootyfruity]

I would have to say yes. Remember, Toriyama stated that since Goku and Vegeta have obtained God ki that they will likely never use SSJ2 or SSJ3 ever again due to the massive power boost that would enable them to defeat most threats with ease, not that they outright lost the forms as a whole.

The way I see it, SSJB isn't much different from regular SSJ at all, with the only noticeable difference being that SSJB uses divine Ki which causes the user's hair to turn blue and makes their power imperceptible to mortals. Heck, maybe Goku can't turn SSJB2 or SSJB3 at all and needs to use regular ki to access the transformations like some kind of latent power booster, you just never know with Toriyama after all.

[DanielSSJ]

Is it possible? Yes. Would it be useful? Probably not and here's why. When Goku and Vegeta use Super Saiyan Blue, they are using their Super Saiyan forms to channel the power of a Super Saiyan God. The Super Saiyan form itself doesn't play much of a role in how powerful the form is, it's just used as a medium to access the higher power of Super Saiyan God. If Goku were use SS2 or SS3 to channel that God power instead, the power increases would stack, but they would be additive rather than multiplicative. Here is what I mean:

Goku: 1
-- Super Saiyan: 50
-- Super Saiyan 2: 100
-- Super Saiyan 3 - 400
-- Super Saiyan God - 500,000 or something similar
---- Super Saiyan Blue - 500,050
---- Super Saiyan Blue 2 - 500,100
---- Super Saiyan Blue 3 - 500,400

The Super Saiyan form is necessary to channel the God power, but going beyond would just add extra stress while adding a negligible amount of strength.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

It should be possible, but it probably won't happen. Since Super Saiyan Blue doesn't give a x50 boost, Super Saiyan Blue 2 & 3 most likely don't give a x2 & x4 boost respectively either, so the drawbacks will eventually make the user weaker than Super Saiyan Blue 1 after a while (see what happened to Golden Freeza). Same for Super Saiyan Blue Grade 2.

[Captain Strawberry]

No because thew new SSJ is equal to the red haired form.

[Anime Kitten]

I hope not. Putting aside that logic stuff, I think it'd be an excuse to use Super Saiyan 3 again in their new favorite form.

[Hellspawn28]

I think we will, but it won't be the same as SSj2 and SSj3. I think SSjGSSj2 and SSjGSSj3 will have different designs and powers to them.