God Ki

[Kishido]

I ask myself if every race can archieve god ki or is it somehow Saiyan special shit as well?

Just think about the likes as Frost, Golden Frieza or someone else being able to have it.

Side questions. Was Frieza able to sense Goku? If yes how?

[dbgtFO]

1. Beerus & Whis definitely have it too and most likely Champa and Vados also have it. Maybe every deity from the Kaioshin to the Kami could have it.
2. They achieve God ki, by not having their ki leak out, so perhaps any individual, who can master that will have God ki as well.
3. Freeza apparently just learned how to sense ki. Whis or Oracle Fish remarked that Goku and Vegeta had just barely reached the level, where they could sense the ki of gods, so maybe by becoming so powerful, Freeza acquired that ability too?

[Hitiro]

I ask myself if every race can archieve god ki or is it somehow Saiyan special shit as well?

Just think about the likes as Frost, Golden Freeza or someone else being able to have it.

Side questions. Was Freeza able to sense Goku? If yes how?

Many races should have the potential to obtain God Ki. Otherwise who is supposed to become the next God of Destruction after Beerus dies?

In the fight against Freeza and Goku he does say he can sense Goku's strength. But this was already covered a few episodes ago. After a certain level of power a character will meet the necessary requirements to sense God Ki. According to Whis. But when he said that Goku and Vegeta have yet to scratch the surface of the power they are capable of.

[Kishido]

I ask myself if every race can archieve god ki or is it somehow Saiyan special shit as well?

Just think about the likes as Frost, Golden Freeza or someone else being able to have it.

Side questions. Was Freeza able to sense Goku? If yes how?

Many races should have the potential to obtain God Ki. Otherwise who is supposed to become the next God of Destruction after Beerus dies?

In the fight against Freeza and Goku he does say he can sense Goku's strength. But this was already covered a few episodes ago. After a certain level of power a character will meet the necessary requirements to sense God Ki. According to Whis. But when he said that Goku and Vegeta have yet to scratch the surface of the power they are capable of.

God Frieza with god ki would be overpowered as fuck

[Khin]

Freeza can sense SSjB Goku's Ki while the others can't.If you are strong enough,then you can sense the Ki of a God.

Spoiler:

Minute: 21
Context: Goku transforms into SSGSS.

Kuririn: "I can't sense any ki from Goku at all now!"

Spoiler:

Minute: 9

Freeza: "Judging from the energy I'm sensing, it seems that I will be the victor, does it not?"
Goku: "I think it'll be a close match."
Freeza: "No, I am superior."

Significance: A major plot point on Namek was that Freeza was unable to sense energy without a scouter. It seems that in his training, he not only learned to sense energy, but godly energy as well. Quite an improvement. Some groups mistranslated this as Freeza telling Goku to sense his energy & feel how superior he is.

Spoiler:

Minute: 17
Context: Whis provides highly detailed expository dialogue.
Oracle Fish: "Maybe your training is a bit too tough? At this rate, those two are going to die. You could at least have them become those "Super Saiyan" things."
Whis: "That wouldn't do, at all."
Oracle Fish: "It wouldn't?"
Whis: "Those two have just barely reached the level where they can sense the ki of a god. If that castle up there were the level of the gods, then their power is only about this high. They need to raise the level of their ki without becoming Super Saiyan. Otherwise, they won't be able to grow much stronger, since they won't be able to see the realm which lies ahead. Most likely, those two realize this themselves. After all, I never once told them not to become Super Saiyans."
Oracle Fish: "Well, whatever. Just don't kill them."

[samuo2]

Hum.. About the God Ki, in Dragon Ball Super I think interesting that "they" added Dende fear wich probably sense the God Ki of Beerus.
Does it means that anybody who become "the Kami of Earth" access to God Ki ? Probably, but how ? Maybe by doing nothin' and special and himself ignore that.

But God Ki brings incoherence, with all the time wich Gokû goes to Kaïo's planet, and lastly in the 31th episode of DBS when he searched KibitoShin's ki with Instant Transmission (or Teleportation, don't know how do you called that in American Dub )

But, it erase a plothole about the first apparition of Kaïo Shin, when Piccolo gave up against him in the Tournament, my theory about that is, because Piccolo have ancient Kami-sama of Earth "in him", maybe he was able to sense God Ki during a certain period or something like that.. Or I'm saiying bullshit

In short, God Ki is an interesting novelty in Dragon Ball Super and add an impression of more unknow powers !

[Kaboom]

I suspect that godly ki may be something that only folks who are already extraordinarily powerful can learn to use for themselves. Super Saiyans would make perfect candidates, so a "Super Saiyan God" is something that really stands out as something a little extra special and legendary.

Meanwhile, "lower god" folks like Dende and Kaio can sense the use of godly ki on other people, but aren't naturally strong enough to learn to use it themselves.

[Kishido]

But if Frieza would gain it with training he really could match Beerus easily. And the question is why God ki makes you stronger after all if Dende for example is weak

[Xeztin]

I think God Ki makes you stronger depending on who you are. For example, God Ki is stronger than normal Ki, but look what the Saiyan's did with normal Ki, it took them all the way to SSJ3 when the human's couldn't even get on par with SSJ1. If Dende was a fighter and strong warrior like the Saiyan's especially our cast of Saiyan's he'd probably be just as strong. The Saiyan's took normal ki all the way to SSJ3 drawing out all its potential, human's couldn't even begin to tap into the power they did. I think it's the same with the God Ki, the Saiyan's are drawing out all of it's potential reaching new heights, while Dende and the Kai's aren't worried about fighting and do not train to even begin to tap into the God Ki. In other words if you gave a normal human God Ki they'd probably be still just as weak unless they could train and draw out its potential like Goku. A perfect example would be Freeza who still had normal Ki as Golden Frieza, he managed to draw out the normal Ki's potential enough to rival the God Ki SSJB. If you think about it, he drew more out of normal ki then what Goku ever could. If Frieza had God Ki he would be the strongest in all 12 universes

In my opinion every race has their limits, the humans especially, I think Goku and Vegeta went as far as their body's could handle with normal Ki, Freeza is a freaking mutant monster though so that would explain why he was able to draw that much out of it.

[Desassina]

Is "God ki" a thing? (as in having a signature label) I thought that only SSJG Goku couldn't be sensed, because he was a god, and that SSJB was merely the power of a SSJ who had reached the level of a SSJG. In other words, SSJB is not a God form, because Vegeta was quite capable of reaching it without the ritual, when he had only shown tremendous potential against Beerus. Like fire that burns hotter when blue, SSJ could have changed with their output. Who knows? (I've only seen BoG and RoF, mind you).

[apex_pretador]

Is "God ki" a thing? (as in having a signature label) I thought that only SSJG Goku couldn't be sensed, because he was a god, and that SSJB was merely the power of a SSJ who had reached the level of a SSJG. In other words, SSJB is not a God form, because Vegeta was quite capable of reaching it without the ritual, when he had only shown tremendous potential against Beerus. Like fire that burns hotter when blue, SSJ could have changed with their output. Who knows? (I've only seen BoG and RoF, mind you).

I think king kai flat out stated that goku became a god without help , when he turned SSB

[Desassina]

Is "God ki" a thing? (as in having a signature label) I thought that only SSJG Goku couldn't be sensed, because he was a god, and that SSJB was merely the power of a SSJ who had reached the level of a SSJG. In other words, SSJB is not a God form, because Vegeta was quite capable of reaching it without the ritual, when he had only shown tremendous potential against Beerus. Like fire that burns hotter when blue, SSJ could have changed with their output. Who knows? (I've only seen BoG and RoF, mind you).

I think king kai flat out stated that goku became a god without help , when he turned SSB

Super or BoG/RoF? I haven't seen the former.

[apex_pretador]

Is "God ki" a thing? (as in having a signature label) I thought that only SSJG Goku couldn't be sensed, because he was a god, and that SSJB was merely the power of a SSJ who had reached the level of a SSJG. In other words, SSJB is not a God form, because Vegeta was quite capable of reaching it without the ritual, when he had only shown tremendous potential against Beerus. Like fire that burns hotter when blue, SSJ could have changed with their output. Who knows? (I've only seen BoG and RoF, mind you).

I think king kai flat out stated that goku became a god without help , when he turned SSB

Super or BoG/RoF? I haven't seen the former.

super

[Xeztin]

Is "God ki" a thing? (as in having a signature label) I thought that only SSJG Goku couldn't be sensed, because he was a god, and that SSJB was merely the power of a SSJ who had reached the level of a SSJG. In other words, SSJB is not a God form, because Vegeta was quite capable of reaching it without the ritual, when he had only shown tremendous potential against Beerus. Like fire that burns hotter when blue, SSJ could have changed with their output. Who knows? (I've only seen BoG and RoF, mind you).

Yea I believe so as when he went SSJB against Freeza I believe it was Kuririn(?) that said he could no longer sense him even though Freeza could. I'm also pretty sure King Kai stated that as mentioned in the post above.

[Kaboom]

But if Freeza would gain it with training he really could match Beerus easily.

Well then it's a good thing he didn't and probably never will learn how to gain and use it.

[Darkprince410]

Is "God ki" a thing? (as in having a signature label) I thought that only SSJG Goku couldn't be sensed, because he was a god, and that SSJB was merely the power of a SSJ who had reached the level of a SSJG. In other words, SSJB is not a God form, because Vegeta was quite capable of reaching it without the ritual, when he had only shown tremendous potential against Beerus. Like fire that burns hotter when blue, SSJ could have changed with their output. Who knows? (I've only seen BoG and RoF, mind you).

When Goku transformed into the Ssj God Ssj in Super, it's explicitly stated that his ki couldn't be detected by Kuririn and the others, which was what was established to be a characteristic of God ki earlier on.

Kuririn: "I can't sense any ki from Goku at all now!"
Gohan: "It seems he's somehow become a Super Saiyan God."
Kuririn: "But Gohan, take a good look at him. Goku's hair is blue!"
Tenshinhan: "If I remember it right, it was red when he fought Beerus."
Kame-Sen'nin: "Has Goku reached a level even higher than what he was at back then?"

It wasn't just that he reached a threshold of power like that of Ssj God, but it was specifically related to godly ki.

[immakillya]

Is "God ki" a thing? (as in having a signature label) I thought that only SSJG Goku couldn't be sensed, because he was a god, and that SSJB was merely the power of a SSJ who had reached the level of a SSJG. In other words, SSJB is not a God form, because Vegeta was quite capable of reaching it without the ritual, when he had only shown tremendous potential against Beerus. Like fire that burns hotter when blue, SSJ could have changed with their output. Who knows? (I've only seen BoG and RoF, mind you).

When Goku transformed into the Ssj God Ssj in Super, it's explicitly stated that his ki couldn't be detected by Kuririn and the others, which was what was established to be a characteristic of God ki earlier on.

Kuririn: "I can't sense any ki from Goku at all now!"
Gohan: "It seems he's somehow become a Super Saiyan God."
Kuririn: "But Gohan, take a good look at him. Goku's hair is blue!"
Tenshinhan: "If I remember it right, it was red when he fought Beerus."
Kame-Sen'nin: "Has Goku reached a level even higher than what he was at back then?"

It wasn't just that he reached a threshold of power like that of Ssj God, but it was specifically related to godly ki.

Whis trained Goku and Vegeta how to control their ki and keep it from leaking, could this be why the other z warriors could not detect goku and vegeta's ki when they go SSB? not that it is "god ki" but because they are controlling their ki to such a level that not a single bit leaks from their body.

[Darkprince410]

Whis trained Goku and Vegeta how to control their ki and keep it from leaking, could this be why the other z warriors could not detect goku and vegeta's ki when they go SSB? not that it is "god ki" but because they are controlling their ki to such a level that not a single bit leaks from their body.

That'd make sense if it wasn't for the fact that it was shown that Freeza was somehow able to sense Goku's Ssj God Ssj ki.

Freeza: "Judging from the energy I'm sensing, it seems that I will be the victor, does it not?"
Goku: "I think it'll be a close match."
Freeza: "No, I am superior."

Additionally, it wouldn't really make sense for them to only be able to do that in their Ssj God Ssj state and not their normal base form also, since the dialogue suggests that they could sense his ki until he transformed.

[Desassina]

I'll hold back on my theory, but maybe Krillin and the others couldn't grasp the power scope of a SSJB. Sometimes, a number is too big that I can't describe it. It would only take a golden ratio number, for example, for us to lose sight of where it ends. Or imagine if you were asked to describe how big the universe is: infinite, yeah, but the farthest we have seen needs its own unit of length. To Freeza, Goku is only a few times stronger or weaker, which means that they are comparable in scope. For Krillin and the others, they've gone past the point of comprehension.