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(Super spoilers) We have so many Freeza characters

Post by coola » Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:21 am

Let's count down:
- Original Freeza
- Spare Parts Freeza (Metal Freeza)
- Dad Freeza
- Shredder Freeza
- Full Metal Freeza (Metal Cooler)
- Past Freeza (Chilled)
And now Poisonous Freeza, only Freeza mom is missing :D
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Re: (Duper spoilers) We have so many Freeza characters

Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:39 am

coola wrote:Let's count down:
- Original Freeza
- Spare Parts Freeza (Metal Freeza)
- Dad Freeza
- Shredder Freeza
- Full Metal Freeza (Metal Cooler)
- Past Freeza (Chilled)
And now Poisonous Freeza, only Freeza mom is missing :D
Only a few of those are actually Freeza, of course. Although they do end up all being evil overlords.

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Re: (Super spoilers) We have so many Freeza characters

Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:00 am

^ But they're almost all Freeza clones, Freeza in all but name. Well, I don't know. While Cold is very reminiscent of Freeza's second form, I've always seen him as distinct enough to be his own character, paltry a character though he is. Maybe it's because he's the only one not portrayed by Nakao.

But, yeah, I was actually just thinking about this the other day. They just can't keep themselves from constantly bringing Freeza back.
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Re: (Super spoilers) We have so many Freeza characters

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:38 am

Cetra's got us covered on the Freeza's mom part :P
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Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:31 am

Can't wait for Frost to fucking die already. He had a chance to be different but ended up being a disappointment. I'm tired of Freeza revivals and clones.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:16 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Cetra's got us covered on the Freeza's mom part :P
Freeza with breasts? *Shudders*

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Re: (Super spoilers) We have so many Freeza characters

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:20 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Cetra's got us covered on the Freeza's mom part :P
Freeza with breasts? *Shudders*
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:21 pm

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That... actually looks really damn cool. Who drew that?

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Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:26 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
That... actually looks really damn cool. Who drew that?
NovaSaiyajinGoku, don't know who him personally but he's the one who drew Zeero, an OC Cetra is working on for his story, she's the grandmother of Freeza I believe.
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Re: (Super spoilers) We have so many Freeza characters

Post by Pocket-God » Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:43 pm

It doesn't really matter how many Frieza type characters there are, cause there will always be one that's Cooler than all the rest.....
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Post by WittyUsername » Mon Mar 07, 2016 4:59 pm

To be fair, Cooler did seem to be more composed and less smug than Freeza. That being said, I agree that this thing with the evil Freeza look a likes is getting ridiculous. Are we just supposed to assume that every member of Freeza's race is naturally evil?

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Post by Chuquita » Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:08 pm

Weren't Freeza, his father and brother supposed to be mutants and super strong compared to the rest of their race? For all we know everyone else on his original planet is mostly nice, or at least neutral. Maybe the same is true for Uni 6 and Frost really is Freeza's counterpart the way Champa is Beerus' so the rest of everyone on Frost's planet are weaker but nice.
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Re: (Super spoilers) We have so many Freeza characters

Post by dario03 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:22 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:Can't wait for Frost to fucking die already. He had a chance to be different but ended up being a disappointment. I'm tired of Freeza revivals and clones.
And then we can see his brother Kool
father Frigid (and father would be his title because instead of a king he would be a spiritual leader on the surface but really just be collecting donations for profit)
metal Frost
metal Kool
platinum Frost
Maybe they will have a mother named Ice
etc
etc
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Re: (Super spoilers) We have so many Freeza characters

Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:27 pm

Honestly, Frost & FnF should never have happened. But i cringed the moment I saw Frost added into the team, especially after FnF happening an arc prior, I got sick of the lazy Freeza rehashing. If I could have fixed this rehash mess, I would have just had King Cold revived, and give him the same storyline and characterization given to Frost. Then there would be no need for Golden Freeza.... or Frost himself. But again, I go back to my theory that Toriyama can't seem to sell us a villain like Freeza without relying on Freeza as a stencil.
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ekrolo2 wrote:Cetra's got us covered on the Freeza's mom part :P
Freeza with breasts? *Shudders*
Its weird how we assume female Cold-Clan members, have to have them. Freeza himself could have been passed as a female already with Linda young, his lips and pink colouration already.
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Re: (Super spoilers) We have so many Freeza characters

Post by sayian_nation_ » Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:30 pm

does this mean we will be getting a Golden Frost in the making?

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Post by Cetra » Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:31 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
That... actually looks really damn cool. Who drew that?
NovaSaiyajinGoku, don't know who him personally but he's the one who drew Zeero, an OC Cetra is working on for his story, she's the grandmother of Freeza I believe.

She is Freeza's mother, originally intended in my story as grandmother but now mother actually. And she was not supposed to have breasts when I drew her, haha (first I considered it, then not and now with Nova's picture it is worth a thought for me again). But Nova added that detail after I gave him my sketch and I quite like it so I have not decided yet.

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Post by coola » Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:16 pm

I always thought that was female Cell :oops: Great job :)
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Post by Cetra » Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:20 pm

coola wrote:I always thought that was female Cell :oops: Great job :)

Haha.
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Re: (Super spoilers) We have so many Freeza characters

Post by xJeffx » Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:32 pm

You forgot Kuriza who happens to be Freeza's son.

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Re: (Super spoilers) We have so many Freeza characters

Post by Iberian_Saiyan » Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:35 pm

My biggest issue with the Freeza-like characters isn't that they're Freeza but they're voiced almost all by Ryusei Nakao (except for King Cold) and it ruins the characters for me. Masako Nozawa is a special case, she's the voice of the Son family although Raditz wasn't voiced by her.. I'd have liked to have heard her voicing Raditz too but we can't have everything.

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