I can't wait. So excited and hyped!

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I can't wait. So excited and hyped!

Post by GodVegetto91 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:32 pm

About these 2 new Characters.
I can't wait to know more and more about them. I want to know as much as possible about them. And if it really is 1 or both of them at the top. I don't know exactly WHEN we can expect more information?
Was this today from the last V Jump? As i recall V Jump comes out every 21st. And leaks may start appearing as early as the 16th. But GOD do i want to know more!

It sucks that japanese has to be suck a tricky language when it comes to things like (s) because i really want them BOTH to be colleagues and the ultimate gods of the multiverse instead of the tall one simply being another attendant to the little guy. In fact the tall one looks very cool and mysterious. So he definitely deserves to be the dop dog.
What do you guys think??

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Re: I can't wait. So excited and hyped!

Post by Grimlock » Sat Apr 23, 2016 3:41 pm

I liked the idea of a god ruling all Universes too, but their designs... I know Toriyama wants to be simple but he's exaggerating a bit.

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Re: I can't wait. So excited and hyped!

Post by GodVegetto91 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 4:16 pm

All i want is for them to both be "Supremely Powerful Divine Beings" and i wish they refer to them as gods rather than Kings. (So confusing) especially for the single highest tier in existence. Hell even Korin was called a God.. Now they dare to call these insanely powerful beings "Kings".. Does that make sense?
Omni-God or Omni-Lord would be much more suited as proper names for them.

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Re: I can't wait. So excited and hyped!

Post by Draconic » Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:34 pm

On Twitter Herms mentioned that in the descriptions they are not actually refered to as Gods, so their titles might just be similar to the Galactic King in Jaco or the Dog King from the original DB. They might not really be strong, but just hold a high position. Regarding designs, the little one looks pretty boring, but the tall dude is looking awesome! Hope he's a badass like Hit.
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Re: I can't wait. So excited and hyped!

Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:46 pm

GodVegetto91 wrote: especially for the single highest tier in existence.
Every god since kami was introduced as the highest being in the universe, dont expect these to be the last

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Re: I can't wait. So excited and hyped!

Post by GodVegetto91 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:15 pm

This is where you are wrong. Really.
These God(s) are reffered to as the highest possible thing in existence. All that exist is the 12 universes he/they rule it with an iron fist. They ARE gods but just not refered to for some weird reason. (But it will)
Kami was the god of a single planet. Kaio's for galaxies. And Beerus for an entire universe but these ones actually govern everything!(the whole multiverse). So obviously there shouldn't exist anything higher than him/them.
Remember he's called an OMNI King.

So YES. I DO expect them to be the last. It's called logic.
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Re: I can't wait. So excited and hyped!

Post by Speedster » Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:28 pm

Since the beginning of Super (even before that actually with the promotional material) knowing that there is a "female Whis" and a "fat Beerus" from another universe as well as 12 universes I was sure it would be all over again a similar hierarchy to the Kaios/Kaioshins. Lke Kaios/Kaioshins were having a grand Kai/Kaioshin on top of them there had to be someone higher who would be the god/ruler/overseer of this 12-universe multiverse. I didn't expect their appearance so soon though. I am pretty confident that the tall guy is the attendant like Kibito and Whis. I'm also pretty confident that if they have genders the small one is a female (look at the shoes). Also I can't help but notice that the head of the tall guy slightly resembles a spermatozoon. Given also that Hit's head slightly resembles the glans of a penis it seems that Toriyama gets a lot of inspiration from the male reproductive system lately... :lol:
GodVegetto91 wrote:These God(s) are reffered to as the highest possible thing in existence.
In existence of what though? The Kaioshins were originally said to be the highest being in existence .... in universe 7. What stops Toriyama from asspulling another expansion of the Dragonball cosmos by saying the 12-unverse multiverse is just a part of an even bigger multiverse or an infinite omniverse and then have a being considered the highest in existence of the omniverse. And he doesn't need to expand it spatially anyway. He can say there is a ruler of all the timelines which can be infinite or a huge number really. After all Trunks said in chapter 357 that each different action gives rise to a different timeline "Many different futures are created over the smallest of things".
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Re: I can't wait. So excited and hyped!

Post by GodVegetto91 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:39 pm

Speedster wrote:Since the beginning of Super (even before that actually with the promotional material) knowing that there is a "female Whis" and a "fat Beerus" from another universe as well as 12 universes I was sure it would be all over again a similar hierarchy to the Kaios/Kaioshins. Lke Kaios/Kaioshins were having a grand Kai/Kaioshin on top pf them there had to be someone higher who would be the god/ruler/overseer of this 12-universe multiverse. I didn't expect their appearance so soon though. I am pretty confident that the tall guy is the attendant like Kibito and Whis. I'm also pretty confident that if they have genders the small one is a female (look at the shoes). Also I can't help but notice that the head of the tall guy slightly resembles a spermatozoon. Given also that Hit's head slightly resembles the glans of a penis it seems that Toriyama gets a lot of inspiration from the male reproductive system lately... :lol:
GodVegetto91 wrote:These God(s) are reffered to as the highest possible thing in existence.
In existence of what though? The Kaioshins were said to be the highest being in existence .... in universe 7. What stops Toriyama from asspulling another expansion of the Dragonball cosmos by saying the 12-unverse multiverse is just a part of an even bigger multiverse or an infinite omniverse and then have a being considered the highest in existence of the omniverse. And he doesn't need to expand it spatially anyway. He can say there is a ruler of all the timelines which can be infinite or a huge number really. Trunks said after all during the Cell arc that each different action gives rise to a different timeline.
When the kai's were introduced it wasn't specifically said which area they governed. Whilst here we know right from the start that he governs all 12 universes. "Omni" King. Simply means king of ALL that exists.

Well yeah sure, they could easily add other multiverses to the table. But i personally don't see any value in such an action. And deem the possibility of it very low.

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Re: I can't wait. So excited and hyped!

Post by pacz360 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:11 pm

GodVegetto91 wrote:
Speedster wrote:Since the beginning of Super (even before that actually with the promotional material) knowing that there is a "female Whis" and a "fat Beerus" from another universe as well as 12 universes I was sure it would be all over again a similar hierarchy to the Kaios/Kaioshins. Lke Kaios/Kaioshins were having a grand Kai/Kaioshin on top pf them there had to be someone higher who would be the god/ruler/overseer of this 12-universe multiverse. I didn't expect their appearance so soon though. I am pretty confident that the tall guy is the attendant like Kibito and Whis. I'm also pretty confident that if they have genders the small one is a female (look at the shoes). Also I can't help but notice that the head of the tall guy slightly resembles a spermatozoon. Given also that Hit's head slightly resembles the glans of a penis it seems that Toriyama gets a lot of inspiration from the male reproductive system lately... :lol:
GodVegetto91 wrote:These God(s) are reffered to as the highest possible thing in existence.
In existence of what though? The Kaioshins were said to be the highest being in existence .... in universe 7. What stops Toriyama from asspulling another expansion of the Dragonball cosmos by saying the 12-unverse multiverse is just a part of an even bigger multiverse or an infinite omniverse and then have a being considered the highest in existence of the omniverse. And he doesn't need to expand it spatially anyway. He can say there is a ruler of all the timelines which can be infinite or a huge number really. Trunks said after all during the Cell arc that each different action gives rise to a different timeline.
When the kai's were introduced it wasn't specifically said which area they governed. Whilst here we know right from the start that he governs all 12 universes. "Omni" King. Simply means king of ALL that exists.

Well yeah sure, they could easily add other multiverses to the table. But i personally don't see any value in such an action. And deem the possibility of it very low.
Hey man its dragon ball anything could happen honestly

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Re: I can't wait. So excited and hyped!

Post by iop890 » Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:35 am

Now that I think about it, Trunks and Cell playing around with the time machine would have duplicated the Omni-King three times(going by the popular '4 Timelines Theory').

Bulma's machine technically created copies of the most powerful God in the multiverse.

Bulma confirmed most powerful character. Everyone update your power level lists.

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Re: I can't wait. So excited and hyped!

Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Tue Apr 26, 2016 5:04 am

iop890 wrote:Now that I think about it, Trunks and Cell playing around with the time machine would have duplicated the Omni-King three times(going by the popular '4 Timelines Theory').

Bulma's machine technically created copies of the most powerful God in the multiverse.

Bulma confirmed most powerful character. Everyone update your power level lists.
Unless the Zenou has enough reality warping powers to exist across time.

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Re: I can't wait. So excited and hyped!

Post by TekTheNinja » Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:28 pm

I hope the bodyguard dudes do some fighting. They look pretty cool.

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Re: I can't wait. So excited and hyped!

Post by Bullza » Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:29 pm

The idea behind it is exciting but it's kinda let down by how horrendous the character design is for Zeno. The bodyguards have a decent design but they're alsonlet down by a nasty colour scheme.

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